Is this an old or a new one. When i searched PF I could only find one Chocolate and that did not fit this.This one have no white on the edge and it has a white-green eye.
The only info that I found when I googled it is in french and although I can read five languages thats not one of them :0)
Janett
Beautiful !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kaleem
Won this on a seed auction today. but the price where not as nice 5 seeds for 1 $.
Janett
how lovely it is,... i hope if you find info on it you will post it please.
I would love to grow this one its soooo pretty must go try and find seeds.
Have a good day!
:}
rh
Here are your seeds with exact same photo.
http://seeds.thompson-morgan.com/us/en/product/7604/2
I have seeds ordered of these as well. Pretty huh!
I have been growing one that is a SOLID, but mine is not quite as dark a Chocolate as in your photo. Mine is more of a Dusty-Chocolate-Mauve-Rose and is a very shimmering Japanese Morning Glory
Emma
What exactly is the name of the flower on your photo. I am totally new on MG:s so need a little more info.
tayson80 - I was just reading down this thread and noticed that Emma got to one of the punch lines before I did,and that is that the e-bay seller you got your seeds from is obviously(!) using the photo from the T&M catalog(!),and I have found that when e-bay sellers resort to using photos from commercial catalogs,instead of their own realistic photos,that the quality of the seeds from such sellers should be regarded with circumspection...
I personally would never purchase seeds from any seller who 'steals' pictures from other sources,and in all likilhood the 'stolen' pictures do not accurately represent whatever seeds that merchant is 'hawking',but does accurately reflect the caliber of their business 'ethics'......beware of merchants who 'steal' other peoples pictures...
No this sellar is from sweden, its a swedish e-bay like site. She put the info that she split a commercialpack that she herself purchased to soow in the spring. I have bought other stuff from this Tradera-sellar. she often travells and buy things in other countries.
since nobody seems to know anything about this flower I am counting on that the colour is lighter. I found one german site that says in the info about this chocolate that it is much darker than Chocolate Silk, how much darker remaines to be seen, it also states that this flower is HUGE, thats there way of describing it, in big letters :0)
But it was a surpriced with this sellar this time that she had so many MG:s
I have bought indoors plants from her earlier and it has been topnotch stuff.
Its hard to find MG:s in sweden at all, and now with this sellar I at least found 10 named MG:s and that is ALL I have found.
Janett
tayson80 - Well,I'm glad that you clarified the nature of the sellers sales statement...but,when you stated that
" nobody seems to know anything about this flower"...We do know the various Chocolates that have shown up so far,in this country,and the picture you posted is from the commercial supplier T&M...T&M have marketed their chocolate since the mid-90's and so the chocolate from T&M has been sold by them for approx.a decade already...it is neither new, nor 'unknown'...
There are many MG's that do not have official common or cultivar names,but are still interesting...there are many people who seem to feel that unless a MG has an 'official' name,that it is somehow less than 'worthy' of being grown and enjoyed...Many of my favorite MG's have no common or official name,but I still enjoy them very much,just the same...
The 'concern' about having a 'named' MG has resulted in many sellers attaching a 'name' to their wares,because of the many people who will not buy a MG unless it is a 'named' type...I have found it to be more worthwhile to learn about the structure of the different MG's and how to differentiate the various species,than to overly concern myself about only having MG's that are 'named' cultivars...
Could you post the link to the German site that has the description about the chocolate being 'much darker' and that the flowers are 'huge'...I think many of the MG enthusiasts on this forum would like to see it...Thanks(!)...
Janett,
I am calling mine 'Chocolate Silk'
However, there is much confusion as to what is 'Chocolate Silk', and what is 'Rose Silk'.
The color of my bloom in the photo is pretty true as to what it really looks like, which is more of a 'Rose-Mauve'.
Most 'Rose Silk' blooms that I have seen and grown are more this color except they do have a White Picotee Trim, and some have a 'slighter' and even a 'thicker' White Picotee Trim. Yet, I have also seen and grown myself 'Rose Silk' that is a deeper Darker Chocolate Color and as well has the White Picotee Trim. Some even go into the 'Orange-colored tones'. And some are a 'Very Light Pale Dusty Mauve' color.
But the real bottom line is that this particular species Ipomoea nil, produces colors that are so varied that causes the confusion of what to really call each color bloom.
If I were growing a bloom that appeared the color represented in the photo you posted, I would call it 'Dark Chocolate Silk'.
I have also heard the description of 'Chocolate Milk', or 'Milk Chocolate'.
I will post a few blooms to show you what "I" have personally grown and how varied the colors and even patterns can be with this particular species. Additionally, the 'SIZE' of the bloom can vary. I have grown many with bloom sizes any where from 3" to one that was a HUGE 7" bloom. And to confuse you even more, the leaves can be different. They can be a Solid Green Tri-Lobed Leaf to a Variegated Tri-Lobed Leaf.
Regardless of the size and color of the bloom or the leaf-type, they are all so beautiful and one of my very favorite Japanese Morning Glories.
Ron can explain this much more clear than what I am attempting to do here.
Emma
Ron was posting at the same time as myself -
Thanks Ron,
And, I would also LOVE to see the link where you purchased your Morning Glory Seeds.
This photo will show you the Variegated Leaves
Another photo
This one has a darker 'Star' pattern
And one more with not as much of a White Picotee Edge Trim
EmmaGrace yours are beautiful. And it was this kind of info and photos I was after, so thanks
Ron This sellar got hers from Europe,more specific germany. Wich wendor there I dont know. and I do know she also by many plants from Belgium.you now there are other countries than US :0)
I found info on this with the same photo on a UK, Deutch and a Frech site, but no US hits when I searched it.
When I menshend the number 10, I meant I have only found 10 Morning Glorys TOTALLY and they have been named,reading your post sound that you belive I would look down on them if they where not named, Well I dont and never have. Shape form and colour have ALWAYS comed first, If they have a name attached it just a plus.
I have 11 Phalanopsis in my livingroom and the have bloomed for 10 years but I have no name on them neither will they get it. But I will still enjoy the 11 months of flowers eatch year.
There is one Morning Glory thats never had a name in this county and its a dark blue one but That one will NEVER get in to my garden. Have very bad dark memorys connected with that one. its been on sale in this country for over 40 years.
And thers one on Tradera that I think is a MG, still waiting for answere on e.mail. But if its not I will still put a bid on the seeds because its a pretty on. And I will maybe post it her for you to id it or maybe it will end up in the identification forum next summer.
Janett
Edit. What you call troath we call eye.
This message was edited Oct 2, 2005 11:17 PM
Hi Janett,
I am so pleased that the information that I could provide you, however brief, was at least of 'some' help to you. Sounds like you are a great Morning Glory Lover too.
Emma
"you now there are other countries than US"
Thanks for that little bit of information ...I'll have to brush up on my World geography and also check out the Belgian forums devoted to MG's...any links(?!)...
Ron,that was uncalled for.
For those who are interested,here is a link to a german company she may have purchased them from
https://ssl.kundenserver.de/shop.sunshine-seeds.de/
They quite a few ipomoea selections.
On the left,click on 'Samen A-Z' ,scroll to 'Samen I' and click. scroll down for ipomoea selections
This message was edited Oct 3, 2005 12:15 AM
Being 'reminded' that there are other countries in the World could (depending on point of view) be considered as a 'bit' uncalled for also,to an unbiased(!) frame of mind...
This message was edited Oct 3, 2005 2:54 AM
Sorry to say Ron, your the first unfriendly person that I have met on this site. It was info and input I like Emmagrace posts I was looking for. I advise you to read your posts and really think of what you have said in them, they are not unbiased.
Regarding seeds,cuttings, bulbs and plants on this auctionsite , it is private gardners that sell here, not commercial vendors,
But as long as your posts are in that negativ way, I will no longer answere them. Have a nice life.
Right On Gail...............
Janet I love your Flower and I would love to trade if we can later..........
Thanks so much for you post and Pictures ............I am just sorry we have to put up with such Brashness
Smiles................
This message was edited Oct 3, 2005 5:04 PM
EmmaGrace, here you have the one thats nativ in sweden. Its a perennial.
Convolvulus arvensis L
Janett
Edit. the flower is 3 cm across, little more than a inch
This message was edited Oct 3, 2005 7:36 PM
Janet, your flower looks simular to a photo I have of one I would like to ID.I wonder if they are the same, I don't have this one but have been trying to find a source for it.....
dee
you have to have patiens with me explaing soil in english. What I know, if this flower grows in claysoil it turns up in very pale pink almost white but the more acid ?? soil the darker colour. I have seen it in as dark as yours so it could be.
But whatever you do with this if it is Convolvulus arvensis be very carefull where you plant it because to you its VERY invasive. look in the Bindweed tread about what I wrote to her.
I would keep this in a container, but it is pretty.
I am going to try and find pictures of the leaves
Janett
Here you have a US link where you can see the whole plant and what it can do if thers no winter to stop it.
Janett
http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu/esadocs/convarve.html
Sorry forgot the link lol
This message was edited Oct 4, 2005 5:26 PM
Bindweed in Texas is just part of the landscape, farmers spray there crops for this and other weeds yearly and they still seem to thrive. It rarely gets cold enough to kill anything so it has a good chance of survival for many many years. But even knowing that I would still plant seed anyway.
WOW thats a beauty, you have there. can confess sshhhhh I would to :0)
About another MG have you heard of Red Ensigne and White Ensigne ? could not find it in PF
Janett
forgot did you check the link
This message was edited Oct 4, 2005 6:38 PM
Yes Janett I checked the link and I am still not diswayed from planting the seed. I am going to find them somewhere and see how well they do here.
I know I will have Gails "Henka, Blue Blizzard" coming up for years as so many of the seed fell before I could get to them. They are already coming up under the wood pile so they are will protected.......This one is the most beautiful with it blue star.
I think miss_kitty may have some :0). maybe she can "loan" a little vine from the neighbour and send to you.
Janett
HI Janet,
Don't forget me....lol
I too would love to grow your Convolvulus arvensis L
I do have a few seeds that I can send you of 'Ehigasa' that is a Vivid Deep Rose-Red Color. Didn't know there was a 'White one'.
Or, are are you talking about the 'Ensign' Morning Glory 'Creeper'.
I have seeds of that one too - Can check to see what colors I have separately. I also have a MIX.
It's ok, we can help you with your 'English' if you will help us with 'Swedish'....*-*
Emma
here are a link to White Ensigne and Red ensigne
http://www.hirts.com/cgi-local/catalog.cgi?cat=1,1,164,
and here a link to Red ensigne
tayson80 (and for general reference to anyone(!) else reading this now(!) or for years to come) - you had posted that you had received seeds,the photo that was posted was that from a commercial source...it has been the experience of many people who buy seeds,that when the photo used is from a source other than the offering merchant,that the seeds have a high probablity of being misrepresented...
A cautionary advisory pertaining to seeds that are presented using the photos of other companies was shared,and as it turns out,the person you received your seeds from did not intentionally try to misrepresent the product...thankfully you are lucky in that regard...
When I stated that we(the people that network on DavesGarden and related sites) are familiar with the chocolates that we have seen,that was a simple straightforward statement...no inference that the US is the only location in the world to grow and enjoy different MG's...The Japanese are the people who have traditionally devoted the most attention to MG's and we have enjoyed the fantastic information from their websites and personal correspondence...
I also shared my perspective about enjoying MG's that have no official name...I did not know what your perspective regarding this aspect was...I was not intending to state that you in particular either did or did not share my perspective,so that sharing was not any type of personal 'attack' on you...I simply shared and you were free to share your views on that aspect,and you did and as it turns out,we both enjoy MG's that may or may not have any official names...
Emmas pictures have been enjoyed by many people and I'm glad that you found her pictures to be the most helpful to your questions...pictures alone can be very helpful,but also understanding what a picture is showing may also be helpful,as pictures may accurately portray or not...different types of information are present in pictures and depending on ones depth of interest and familiarity,a picture may hold more or less interest to the viewer.. the information contained in pictures can thankfully help to verify the identity of what is being shown in the picture...
I respond only to what information(!) is presented and make no claims to being able to be 'psychic' or otherwise 'divine' what may or may not be the most useful to anyone reading the posts...the posts are read by many people for years(!) and I gauge my responses to be references that will be used by many people for years,and so responses are not specifically tailored just for the person posting at the time,but for everyone who will read the posts as references for years...Everyone has their own style of responding,but I assure you that I do not launch personal attacks on who(!) is posting,my focus is on what(!) is posted...
If you 'feel' that my respose to you was 'negative' and personal,that is your perspectrive,just like I still very much think that your reminder that the USA is not the only country in the world was a personal one and hence 'out of order'...
Misinterpretations are always a possibility...
There is a very strong tendency for too(!) many(!) people to interpret posts that are in agreement(!) with the poster as 'friendly',and postings that are definitely or even 'seemingly' in disagreement(!) with the poster as 'unfriendly'...This is an overly emotional response,lacking appropriate objectivity that has been a major impediment in disseminating objectively correct information...particularly regarding the accuracy of information and photos posted to the PlantFiles...Everyone makes mistakes,but there are people who 'feel' that correcting a mistake is tantamount to 'losing face'...so,the many blatant errors continue in the PlantFiles because the person posting the errors has too much 'emotion' attached to make the necessarry corrections...syrupy praise can help to stroke and maintain a 'fragile' ego,but aren't going to make for greater accuracy...,but do contribute to a lag(!) in objectivity,because the 'social politics' of the only sugary praise rules,prevent the objective criticism that is necessary for objective accuracy...
The Forums are not just for people who 'need'(!) and dish out sugary praise...but if you don't subscribe to the 'sugary praise' school of thought,then you run a high risk of being labeled as 'unfriendly' by those who do...
I am well aware that my postings may not contain the amount of sugar that some people are looking for,but,I don't play pretend,brown nose or to be a 'crowd' pleaser...there are people from different parts of the world who may agreee(!) or disagree(!) with this perspective...nationality has no particular significance either way...
Whatever is posted may be subject to criticism,and criticism is not a 'crime',but something to be considered in a hopefully constructive sense...but any criticism per se,is not necessarily objectively valid,regardless of the number of outspoken supporters...There is an old saying and that is "The Crowd is Usually Wrong"
The focus of the MG forum should be on MG's,but discussing the nature of what is posted and definitely the why's and how's of postings is also sometimes necessary,even if that is considered less enjoyable than just pretty pictures...
golgi - I liked your MG contest because as least not all(!) of the questions were focused on some aspect of you(!)...
This message was edited Oct 4, 2005 4:06 PM
EmmaGrace I havent forgotten you, as of now I cant get a hold of it because I havent seen any around right now. Where I was growing up I know of plenty places where it grows but that is some 5 hour drive from where I live now.
miss_kitty may have some arvensis growing in her neighbours garden and it starts to spread to her.
Maybe she could get you some.
Janett
Janet,
I have several colors of the seeds you are looking for here
http://www.hirts.com/cgi-local/catalog.cgi?cat=1,1,164,
I'll need to dig though my [lost count of them] plastic box containers to see what I have exactly and will LYK and can send these along with the others.
Emma
I have lots of Seed to share too Janet so let me know and I will send you some out..........
E-mail me your addy when you get the chance. I think by the end of the year you will be up to your neck in Morning Glory seed........these were my favorites this year, oh what will next year bring???........LOL
I have a BIG garden that comes with this rental house. should guess on some10-15 acres I think at least. Dont use the whole place but never know :0) as long as I dont touch the landlords beachcottage and dont cut down the wood further down the slope
If a take a walk around it it would take me about or over 1 hour
Oh and I figured out how to get the seeds an early start. gonna make some BIG garden containers. Have a dubbelgarage I can use for that.
The only thing I have plenty "to much" of here is cherrytrees, alltoe they are beautifull in bloom, they arent when they stand 30 on 1 m2, that about 3 sq,feet all between small seedlings to 10 inch thick.
Got me a chainsaw and have started to cut them down to get the mothertree loose from them.
Going to lend a camera this weekend and take some pictures of the garden or lack of, maybe not on the house, because it looks awfull after my brother ran it down for some 8 years, and the landlord got heartproblems this summer so we couldnt fix the house. He had to get surgery. He has been recooperating this summer. got rid of my brother last october and are finally having the garden for myself :0) Sadly my brother have the same problem that I told you, emma about as my ex have. dont mind if you tell willow.
Well have to go to bed now its 5 in the morning now. night
Janett
Janett,
Here is a pic of the Chocolate Rose Silk that I grew this season. It was a beauty. Really shimmery. Hope your seeds turn out well for you and you share pics for us all to enjoy.
Here is another pic from a different vine.
