This is the first bloom and the previous photos were deleted per my request. Just wanted to add the watermark on there.
This was sown in May and it is growing in a pot. I totally missed the first bloom but caught this one on the 28th..
Hopefully we can figure out it's name, it is already forming seedpods too.
Here's the bud..
here's another one that just looks good. The flowers are about in between a nickle and a quarter in size. I did notice that there is a honey-like substance running down the stem of the flower. At first I thought it was water, but when I touched it, it was sticky like nectar.
These are the leaves.. they are small in size, but full.
Hoping this is clearer..
Gourd - Nice pictures,,,I suspect that this is closely related to Ipomoea obscura...possibly a darker colored strain or subtaxa...it will be interesting to see what the seedpods do...I suspect that they will reflex like Ipomoea obscura...any chance of a closeup of the stigma(?)...
Is the nectar like substance originating from the flower(?)...the sepals(?)...can you locate the source of the nectar(?)...does the flower produce any detectable scent if you put your nose right up to it(?)...
Looking forward to watching this one develop...
love it
Boy, I have alot to learn here. Once I learn all the terminolgy and where the parts are, maybe I can be of some help here. Thanks for the compliments. Very interesting plants.
Gourd - the photos you posted are very helpful and I will use your own photos to point out the plant parts that I mentioned
Tthe stigma is the female receptor organ for the pollen positioned on top of the style,...the stigma and style together form the pistil as a part of 'female' part of the flower structures... the center structure that is divided into 3 lobes( in Ipomoea purpurea) and visible in your nice clear closeup here
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1786964
The sepals are the leaflike structures at the base of the flower(and also retained on the outside of the seedpod)...in the following photo one of the sepals is partially covered by the watermark of the last 4 letters of your first name
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1791101
Hope that helps to identify and locate a couple flower parts I mentioned...
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Thank you Ron,
Thank you Joseph,
Thank you Emma and Janis for helping make these photos possible here.
Here we go..
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#2
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#5
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#7
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#13
That's it for now, Thanks again Emma and Janis (Woofen)..
Antoinette
Awesome!
Very nice Antoinette,
Now, maybe Ron can help ID this one -
or at least, it will point him in the right direction
Emma
Hello Everbody - Well I took a long look(6 hours!) at the recent photo additions and,so far,I think this is Ipomoea obscura...I can see nothing that is inconsistent with Ipomoea obscura,so far(!)...The seedpods are reflexed as is visible in picture #4,#7 and #8...the corolla,the flowerbuds,the sepals and all the rest of the plant looks like Ipomoea obscura to me...I do have some references and notes that mention an orange-yellow colored corolla for Ipomoea obscura,albeit an orange-yellow corolla would be unusual,but not unheard of...
The sepals may have little points at the apex,but I cannot clearly distinguish the points at this time...perhaps future photgraphs may reveal this feature...
Ipomoea obscura is usually an annual,but I have seen species(such as Ipomoea alba et al) that are officially classified as annuals,live for several years...usually as short lived 'perennials'...
Ipomoea obscura has a couple recognized varieties,such as Ipomoea obscura var. obscura and Ipomoea obscura var.sagittifolia,(Ipomoea obscura var.fragilis being synonymized) but these relate to the different leaf shapes,and not to the color of the flower...
The plant should produce a 2 loculed seedpod,dehisce into two main sections with a maximum of 4 somewhat fuzzy seeds per pod...
I am looking forward to any further revelations regarding this orange colored Ipomoea species,tentatively dubbed Ipomoea obscura forma aurantia-lutea(i.e.,orange-yellow)...
Looking Good(!)...
P.S. If this is something other than Ipomoea obscura,it is so (!) close,that I do not see any(!) difference in it as of this point in time...
This message was edited Oct 3, 2005 4:24 AM
Ron,
This is great information, I am learning so much and love taking photos.. Thank you for taking the time to ID this Ipomoea.
Will be gone for a couple of weeks this month but will take photos in the next couple of days, maybe by the time I get back the seed pods may be ready..
Antoinette
Can those be crossed with "regular" morning glories? If so, that could be the basis for greatly extending the color range of morning glories.
MM
MM, I have no clue as to whether thay can by crossed. Hopefully someone will come along and answer that question.
It is still blooming one a day, and it looks like there will be more than one in a couple of days.. but, I won't be here... WHAAAAAAh
MaineMan - Ipomoea obscura is not know to be able to hybridize with other species...but give it a try...
Hi Joseph,
The vines on these are about 8 feet long (I am guessing). Right now they are in a 2 gallon pot, with four 4ft bamboo stakes in there like a TeePee style tied on top. The vines have grown up and over and back down, then they twine onto themselves going back up. It is hard to tell exactly how long they are. Very dainty though, so they would do well with other vines I think.
There are still some blooming going on outside, but the flowers are alot smaller, about the size of a dime if that. There are some pods still forming and I don't know whether to bring it inside or leave it out.
One thing for sure, I wish I had planted that one alot sooner, be sure to plant that one early, you will get tons of seeds. These were sown in May, I ususually start some in Jan or Feb inside to give them a head start.
Only harvested two pods so far, but there are lots if they don't get frozen, we do get a couple of overnight frosts in this area, although I did move it to a safer place.
Sorry I took so long to respond, trying to play catch up and am In and out here lately.
Antoinette
you're welcome Joseph.
A.
Update..
About a week ago I transplanted all five plants outside into the ground and they are doing just fine so far. They had been inside for about two months, they never did do very well inside, they did bloom, but produced no seeds off the blooms. The pods that had formed before I brought them inside did mature. Also, the plants never went completely dormant, still have about 1/8 of the leaves on them and looks like they are sprouting some side leaves now.
If you all haven't sowed your seeds on this one, you should start them now inside so that you can have tons of seeds to trade later. Will let you all know how they do planted directly into the ground.
Would love to hear from those of you that have started yours already.
Antoinette
Antoinette,
Absolutely gorgeous! Am tempted to plant some of those next to the i. obscura since the blooms will be the same size. The colors should contrast beautifully with all those dainty little blooms.
I do hope the ipomoea ochracea seeds I sent you do great. Hope to eventually see photos!!!
~ Cat
Thank you Cat,
Will let you know when they arrive. You should be receiving my end also this week, sent them friday. I have never been able to get ochracea to germinate for me. Hopefully with your seeds and a couple from Emma they will germinate. I sure don't know what I am doing wrong with those.
They would look good together.
A.
that is a beautiful flower and plant.
Just want to let everyone that has D-mailed, know that I do NOT have seeds for this one. It gave only a few and they are gone. Planted it too late last year.
Now that it is in the ground, hopefully it will survive and then hopefully produce seeds this year.
A.
edited to add: Emma may still have some on her site on E-bay. It seems no-one else is selling them or even has them.
This message was edited Mar 3, 2006 9:20 AM
