I just bought some seeds and need some help. How do i best grow these. Do I preplant them in februari and then set them out when the frostnights is over. or are they better off plant on growingspot.
What I know of these plants is that they are poisinous and annuals. its Knowlians Black
Janett
Hey and congrats to "our" new forum
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here are another of my newbie ipomoea. Grandpa Ott`s
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and the third. Star of Yelta
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Janett, I have heard that these don't like transplanting, but from my experience; they are hardy as weeds :) You could plant them indoors or out as long as most frost danger is gone (they don't like cold) once they get outside.
I grow some of my morning glories inside full time, others out and some transplanted, and all of them have done beautifully!
-Hope I could help,
Zem
Also, the knowlin's Black (from my knowing) is not that black. It is more of a purple akin to Star of Yelta and Grandpa Ott's.
And, once you plant these, prepare to have them for years! They reseed and spread like wildfire! I haven't plated my yeltas for years and they still come back.
-Zem
If you are growing them inside do you then pollinate them your self or are they getting seeds anyway. would love to have them blooming indoors also.
Janett
its not my pics its from the girl I got the seeds from. I got permission to use them.
my way of being able to transplant morning glories is those jiffy pellets. once the roots come out the bottom(usually two to 7 days) then i actually plant in the ground where i want them. this way they dont have transplant shock.
when i do the seeds in them i water the pellet that first time then usually let it drain for an hour before putting the seed in. this way they arent prone to rot. then i only water when dry. also once in the ground the little pellet acts as a water asorber for those first top roots plants need so much.
most morning glories dont do good indoors in my opinion.
most also dont like to be transplanted but some are hardier then others. my japanese ones i plant directly where i want them so i dont risk the transplant shock and lose them.
Thanks for the the advice.
Janett
Because of your very northern lattitude, starting them early indoors might be worthwhile. But save a few to plant later, just in case.....
raydio.
Thanks everybody. I now what a happy camper means, hehe. Whatching way to many amerikan channels and movies never read the tranclation :) you miss so much in what they say.
One word thoe, its when you get to plants and it says :Deciduous: havent got a qlue what that means and the swedish/english lexicons dont trancelate it
Can someone explain that with more that one word I would be most greatefull
Janett
Janett,
Deciduous means that the leaves will fall off the plant, usually when the plant enters a dormant state such as with the onset of winter, or when there is a dry period of weather.
Look at the top row of tabs over to the right on this web page. See the tab titled "Garden Terms"? Click on it, then enter the term "deciduous" or any other term and if it is in the database you will be given the definition. Way cool, huh?
Joseph
Thanks so very much. now I see how the word fits in on descriptions also, because I tried to figure it out in some texts. can tell you it didnt work.lol
Janett
Besides morning glories, Janett, what do you grow in your garden(s)? Are your neighbors gardeners too? I live in a development where the typical homeowner gardens by installing a few lonely marigolds here and there in a sea of pine bark mulch. I have had an effect on my neighbors who live in my townhouse row, they are becoming more imaginative.
Joseph
I have just lived in this rental house for 2,5 years and only 10 month of those without my "#¤%&&//&%... to brother. so this was the first summer with the whole BIG and I mean big neglected garden. This summer I have taken down hundreds of nonproducing cherrytrees all tucked to tight. From 1 to10 inches thick so it has not been so much planting for me,
I only have a few roses and some daylilies and a few that i havent learned the english names of yet,
I only have one neighbor and they bought their place last year and it looks fabulous. their garden where also badly neglected but they have the ordinary mixed with some new ideas to. But hey they are 4-5 people thats working the garden. i am alone hehe
During this winter I am going to create as many beds and raised beds that I can create before the ground freezes. And the next summer..........yuuuummm. Both for eyes and mouths
This property is on several acres and as long as I dont touch the landlords little beachhouse I have free hands.
This falI have collected/bought many seeds that I will preplant in feb, thats why I want to learne so I dont destroy to many seeds.
Many of the plants I can only have in the garden summertime. I gonna try to list all the seeds/plants to my info later.
Janett
Janett,
Your picture of the Knowlians Black looks "Photoshopped" (digitally altered) to me. I have difficulty believing that the blooms could have that pure a black color. That would imply a new pigment that doesn't exist in other morning glories. Just my opinion.
MM
MaineMan, its not my pic. I did put them up there so I could get info of them. both in colour and how to best grow them etc, sorry I didnt explain that more. I have never been a "fanatic" about names before and my gardening has been limited to balcony and houseplants. But what is gardenplants for most of you we grow indoors. At times you almost needed a machete to go true my home.
By the next summer I do however gonna put my own pictures of those flowers that comes up colourtrue or not will show then :0) But when that happens I will however let you know when it is mine and if the pictures are up to the flower colour.
Janett
Janett,
Thanks for your explanation. I did understand from your previous message, the reply to Zem, that the picture wasn't produced by you, but came from the girl you got the seeds from.
I fear the picture she supplied cannot be relied on as a faithful representation of the blooms you will get from those seeds. I would be very troubled if people are selling seeds with the aid of photographic images that were deliberately altered to the extent that the images would misrepresent the product.
I think it is fine to use Photoshop or some other image editor to improve an image (and even to remove some cosmetic blemishes) for artistic, esthetic, or composition and design reasons.
However, in my opinion, the edited image should still communicate reality, perhaps better than the unedited picture. But the degree to which an edited image deliberately miscommunicates reality ranges from the unethical toward fraud.
Janett, I look forward to your pictures next year. I am sure you will supply them with good intentions. My message was not meant as a criticism of you.
MM
did not feel offended or critisised at all by you. but would make sure I wasnt missunderstood, hey better safe than sorry :0) and I do agree on the colours.
Can say when I asked about using these pics she just told me was not copywright on. so I think she got it from another source. ssshhhh I have seen them in other places the last couple of days :P.
Can you share the light on this. What is the differenc or lack ther off on
Knowlians Black and Kniolas Black? In PF its two different flowers both named with both these names. One purple/black and one blue/black. its the same with some googlesearch.
Janett
Here's one photo of the Kniola Blacks from T&M
It a beauty. have you looked in the PF. your have almost no dark purple just pinkish close to the throat. can it be the same with a very different colour or is Knowlians a different one.
Janett
Here is a photo of three side by side from last year.
Grandpa Otts, Kniola Blacks, Star of Yelta.
One more of Kniola blacks.. June 2004 I really don't know what to think.
they do look very similar colourwise, and all so beautiful. Starting to get the picture of how my frontyard gonna look next summer :0)
Janett
the second pic looks more tourds the Knowlian. seams to be the same hmmmmm
Janett
Does anybody think there is a 'real' difference...
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/51629/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/91243/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/53280/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/51638/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/57560/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/51597/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/100206/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/94372/index.html
scroll down to fourth from the bottom
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/545860/
Janet your "Knowlians Black" is just the best. My flower never got that black. You go girl this one is the best.......... http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1785195
Did you do any photo color touch up on it?
Talk to you later.
Dee
LOL
Please forgive my "bad" eye, but I just can't see a big difference in the photos of the Granpa Ott's and the Star of Yelta. I have one beauty growing here, and I don't know which one it is...as luck would have it, I planted both! Can someone give me any clues on how I can tell them apart??? Is the SofY a deeper, darker purple with a longer, almost red stripe?
Excuse my ignorance. I guess I just don't have a good eye for detail...
Here is a pretty good closeup of my Grandpa Ottis.....however, we had a good frost two nights ago, and they are all now bit the dust......
Deann
Joseph.....I have some very old Columbine seed that belonged to my old Aunt Zera.....She passed away last year at 107 years old...About 8 years ago, she said to me, Deann I want you to dig up as many plants as you can from my garden so they will continue to grow. I did dig up the "mother plant" of the Columbine and I have been passing out seed to everyone in the two counties here....Just about all of my friends have Aunt Zera's Columbine seed....just send me a SASE and I will send some to you....
Deann
Wow, some of the morning glories look like they've got a light in the center of them, they just GLOW! Sooooooooo pretty!!
Gourd - there really must be something wrong with my vision - I can't see the difference in the 3 varieties. Can you "describe" a visible difference I can look for?
