Deadora Cedar

This is one of my many projects through the past year, Still don't have down the slate for the patio, which is just pea gravel now but things are shaping up. Or Course It's a deodar Cedar but here in the mountains everythings get a southern draw, Hence Deadora cedar.

This message was edited Sep 10, 2005 7:25 PM

Absolutely beautiful !!

Thanks for sharing :)
Dea

That is beautiful. Way to go... I take it your project was building the wall? What a view.

Yes one of the projects was the wall and of course it is still not finished either, the view is great in the back but take a look in the photo forum, that's the view off the front deck!!!

Gary

I was doing an archive search to find information about the Deodar cedar and came upon this thread. Lovely Gary! Have you finished the patio? Your selection of plants and shrubs is perfect - love the stone wall. My DH and I have a cabin in north Georgia - Blue Ridge area. I want to plant a Deodar Cedar (second choice is a Crippsii Cypress) near the front of the cabin.

Liz

Liz,

Thank you! I would reconsider the Deodar Cedar As mine was killed by the extended cold snap we had. It got down below 10 for a few nights. That is the only thing that I know that could have happened to it. As for the patio, of course it's still not finished. I'm in Andrews which about 45 minutes from Blue Ridge.

Gary

Beautiful cedar!-I have 2 deodar cedars, about 10' apart, southern exposure, but partially shaded by a 6' privacy fence (my neighbors). One is extremely healthy & thriving (Karl Fuchs), the other one, Blue Snake, does not seem quite as vigorous. I may move it, up against an east facing wall...

Oh, sorry Gary, I know how you loved that baby! Too bad. Will you try it again? Another weeper would be kewl, maybe a weeping larch or tsuga or pine (cousin It).

Gary,
I just hate that you lost the cedar. What will you replace it with? I went to a Blue Ridge (zone 7) nursery and the proprietor insisted that the deodar would do ok in the local climate. Our cabin is not high enough up the mountain to hit zone 6. Wikipedia.com states the deodar cedar is "USDA hardiness zone 8-9, with selected origins hardy to zone 7".
I guess it may be a 50/50 chance of the cedar making it.

Liz

David in Michigan is growing 'Karl Fuchs' so surely we can grow it in zone 7. I did a search on that one and didn't come up with much info. Is it selected just for extra zone hardiness or is it a dwarf?.

Don't forget to try Cedrus deodara 'Shalimar' as seen at the Morris Arboretum in/near Philadelphia, PA. I liked them so much that I considered ordering one myself, in zone 5. Then reality set in. Still, Philly is Zone 6 and these look to be pretty happy.

Regards,
Ernie

Philly is zone 7 I think without looking at the zone map. At least a full zone and a half warmer than here. I may be a fool for even trying to grow Karl Fuchs here but I know it is one of the reported hardier cultivars. I can't recall where I saw it listed as zone 6 -- but of course it doesn't make didlley-squat difference!! If the plant croaks, who are you going to complain to, the 'zone police'? Nothing ventured, nothing gained. At Gee Farms, a local nursery which is probably 1/2 zone colder than I am, where I bought this tree, they have a Karl Fuchs that is 7 years in the ground and has definitely been through some -15F winters. It is planted very close to a conifer wind break which virtually completely blocks wind from the N and west. And it looks completely healthy to me. So I am leaving mine be till it croaks. I know the longer it stays in the ground the better off it will be.

Thanks all. Vicki, strange enough it wasn't the weeper it is still thriving and looking great. It was a Silver Lace that the cold got. Some Zone charts show my area 6b and others have it 7 and of course somethings that aren't to be hardy here do just fine. I think it may be just the luck of the draw.

Whew, I'm glad it wasn't the weeper. Still, sorry for your loss, LOL. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?? But we do get attached to our babies. So it's appropriate I hope. (Guess I should have looked at the picture, LOL).

We have had bone chilling cold and little snow cover this winter. I wonder what makes it, and what doesn't for me.
I've been taking a hard look around. I definitely need more trees and shrubs to define the gardens. I want the beds to look like pen and ink drawings in winter, and then in summer, like pastels or watercolors. Does that make sense?

Gary,
I feel terrible, that I didn't realize that your cedar had succumbed-I don't know what to say, except try it again, I'm sure that in your area, in a protected location, a deodar should last for quite a few years...my plants were purchased at a discount from a local nursery & I can't believe how the 'Karl Fuchs' has grown-it's planted out in the lawn, w/ almost no care, & it's humonguous...Linda

Perfect sense!!! We were up to 70 today and I so Blue birds checking out the nest boxes, so spring should be close although a chance for snow showers Saturday then a quick rebound to warmer temps. Thanks for your kind words about Deodor. She is resting in the compost pile.

Thanks Linda, will try again but with another species as you suggested.

Yes... we love the Deadors. Zone ratings can vary some, but we have always been told that these are Zone 7 hardy. If your temps dipped into the low teens, or into the single digits, cold damage is quite possible. Sorry to hear about the damage on yours...

We also like the other cedars - the Lebanon and the Blue Atlas.