My FIRST MG ever!

I am so excited! I finally got a bloom! The plant has grown like crazy, and now she decides to bloom. I can't seem to catch them early enough....guess that's why they are MORNING glories!

Cangrats!
;)
-T

Beautiful, deep color, too! :)

That is beautiful :) The first bloom is so exciting. Congrats :)

Janis

It's really lovely, what is the name of the vine? It looks like Grandpa Otts or a variant of it?

honestly, I don't know... I planted 2 kinds, Star of Yelta, and Tall Mix, both Burpee seeds I got at walmart.... First time, so don't know. I did get some seeds from Japan, but don't think these are those, but can't read japanese, so I wouldn't know the name anyway!

mel

Very pretty. It doesn't look like a Star of Yalta. I haven't seen that one before. I have Star of Yalta.

trois

Looks like star of yalta to me!

Well,I think there is alot of name and color duplication(s) compounded by both distributors and traders going by whatever colors and names they are used to...and that most of the colors of the 'named' cultivars will come right out of the I.purpurea "Old Fashioned " mix...and it is called the 'Old Fashioned ' mix because these colors have been around for a very long time...they were around when I first saw them in person in the early sixties and to the best of knowledge were around for hundreds of years In England,Japan and throughout most parts of North and South America where they occur naturally and/or have become naturalized...

The "Grandpa Ott's" in it's suppossed original form should be a violet - purple with a very pronounced fuschia both in the tube and extending out of the throat...along with a darker violet-purple/fuchia star...this color type can easily be changed by crossing with other very similarly colored and marked Ipomoea purpureas...

The "Star of Yelta" (as best as I can determine) is a dark to medium blue color,with a darker blue-purple star and with varying amounts of throat coloration ranging from a barely tinted fuschia to a darker fuschia throat area,but not extending much down into the tube...this type was originally suppossed to be an improved selection out of the I.purpureas that would stay open for most of the day into the late afternoon and/or early evening

"President Tyler" is the same coloration as "Star of Yelta" ,but with suppossedly larger blooms,this feature will probably also vary as the cultivars are carrying genes that will cause both color and size variations...they will cross with other Ipomoea purpureas and the variations picked up may not be apparent in the first generation of plants from the cross pollinations...

"Kniolas" is/was a type that was found growing on a farm in Kentucky by a Mr.Kniola(pronounced as Ka-Now'-la),and was first offered by J.L.Hudson...the very first offerings that I got from Hudson produced varying (!) shades of a 'darker than usual' blue-purple with the darker star pattern usually still visible...I never saw one that looked even close to black,and I think the 'black' is more in the realm of wishful thinking, when it is still so early in the morning that you still can't quite see 'straight' yet,and just about 'everything' has an altered hazy look to it...,but there were also variations that came out of the original batches that were not always very dark...and unless people consistenly select for the very darkest plants,the 'legendary' almost black will soon become just another blue-purple I.purpurea indistinguishable from any other...

I believe "Carmen" initially(!) to be an alternative marketing name for the Kniolas...and at this point,the "Carmen" does not seem to reflect the original dark indigo-purple of the Kniolas...Carmen is often depicted on packets as having an almost chocolate hue,but I have not found any Ipomoea purpurea(so far) to exhibit the chocolate hue as depicted on some of the Carmen advertisements...

'Black Knight' is a new term that I have heard,and inqiured about from suppliers...> that is most likely yet another marketing ploy to try an cash in on the 'sales impact' that the original description of the Kniolas produced...people show photos of blooms that are obviously heavily 'tinted' and/or taken in a very 'hazy' light that really does not show what the flower color really looks like in the full bright sun of day...Show me one at noontime with the flower facing up into the sun(!),that looks 'black',and then I might change my opinion ,but until that occurs,I don't know of any true black I.purpureas...and to lead people to believe that there are black I.purpureas is simply not true and/or outright deceptive...

There are similar name and color dupications for the other colors in Ipomoea purpurea and in Ipomoea nil...

Just sharing my experience with these...for what it's worth...

I still thoroughly enjoy the colors no matter what they are called...

TTY,...

Ron

This message was edited Aug 20, 2006 6:47 AM

what a nice deep, rich color. Congrats on your first one!