New Thread . . . This one is for you, Dee . . .
How about this for a Tie Dye!
Two years ago this one just 'appeared' in my Tie Dyes,
so I started saving the seeds separately from the regular Tie Dyes,
and they continue to amaze me.
This year the blooms have a Brillant Shimmering Luster of Silky-Satin.
This bloom is almost Solid Pale Lilac
with Plum Streaks and Pale Pink and Lavender Halo at Throat.
Also have this same type Tie Dye in Pale Blue
Need help with JMG ID. . .
Gail, your 'Akathoukinoumi' on last Thread
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1668460
Looks like one of my new bloomers, purchased on eBay, as 'Fujimusume' -
which it is definitely NOT.
Do you think this looks like your 'Akathoukinoumi' ???
or anyone else that is growing this ???
The White Throat of my bloom doesn't seem to be as large as golgi's.
Emma, your blooms are always breath taking. Those tye dyes are just incredible.
Janis
Thanks Janis,
Hopefully I'll get lots of seeds.
I am having a new problem this year with my MG's.
MANY BLOOMS ARE NOT MAKING SEEDS,
that I normally get bunches from.
Anyone else having this problem ?
My lavender moonvines are the ONLY thing making seed. I have not seen a single seed pod anywhere else :(
Janis
I was just wondering how soon the morning glories start making seeds and how do you find them and harvest them? How soon after the bloom falls off should they be there? Here is another photo of the one that might be Akathoukinoumi? I like it, but it is a little too much like the Heavenly Blue morning glories for me to get real excited about. Just bigger. Sure has vigorous foliage.
Susan
The seed capsule is roundish, and at first is green and with time as the seeds develop and mature, the capsule turns light brown and is thin, fragile and like paper. Take every care not to harvest the seed capsule too early; you can tell if the seeds are ready for harvest because they are dark colored, either jet black or tan. Harvesting too early will only result in an nonviable seed and much wailing and gnashing of teeth in the following spring when you try to grow them. Some of us did much wailing and gnashing following purchases of seeds on eBay from You Know Who with just these results.
As for how long after the flower drops off, I don't know, maybe another person can chime in here?
Joseph
I've had my wilted blooms fall off sometimes the next day.
But usually it is 2 or 3 days.
I know what you mean,Susan,but it IS more ruffled and has a larger white throat.
Emma,it is so hard to tell,as every camera captures blue differently.All I can say is the blue of Akathoukinoumi is similar to Heavenly Blue,but grayer. Flower is larger and more ruffled,white throat spread out into the bloom in a more rayed pattern.
Nikki,plant that blue silk! It looks great!
Will do, Gail
Thanks again so much!
~Nikki
Now you too(!) can be an ID 'expert(!),just take a look at these here pictures culled from 'our own' database and 'amaze' your friends,entertain at parties,have fun disparaging 'phoney' offerrings on those 'nefarious' for sale sites...endless uses...just use your imagination...
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/57876/
I.alba
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/58272/
I.alba
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/10807/
I.alba
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/55108/
I.muricata ~= turbinata
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/56576/
I.turbinata
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/56545/
I.cocinnea
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/57940/
I.cocinnea
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/57477/
I.quamoclit
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/8385/
I.cordatotriloba
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/8383/
I.cordatotriloba
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/68661/
I.indica
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/55120/
I.nil with elongated sepals
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/366789/
I.nil type pods
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/84351/
I.nil like sepals
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/80724/
can you find the relevant 'hidden' picture
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/81989/
I.lindheimeri very similar to nil
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/1569/
I.purpurea
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1238988
I.purpurea sepals
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/52392/
I.purpurea sepals
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/56193/
Ipomoea purpurea alternating very pointy and wide sepals
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/31407/
I.purpurea
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/11568/
I.macrorhizza
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/84425/
I.sagitatta
maybe someone else can 'chime in' and fill in any missing information gaps...but,seedpods will usually be ripe on I.purpurea and I.nil about 8 weeks after flowering...
WOW is this one different, at least for me. Pic is a bit fuzzy, but you can see it I think. Gonna go out and try to get another, but its in a spot that makes it rough.
There is a yellowish cast to the "star" and pink spots on it, very little ones. I love it :)
Janis
comparison of Hatsu Arashi,Akatsuki No Umi,and "berlin Blue" (variety bought from e-bay)
looks like a rather homogenous mix,eh?
Here is a better pic :)
This is on my Mt Fuji mix, is it a bud? Or is that wishful thinking??
Janis
Oh it's a BUD and looks like it might be a double one!
Well, FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*doin the happy dance, doin the happy dance*
These are all over it, have been for a week or so, but no flowers yet... patience patience (i have no patience)
Thanks golgi!!!!
Janis
Janis,
Your White with Pink Streaks could be Shibori 'Pink'.
Let's see what others think.
Gail your photo comparison is amazing.
Unbelievable how much they resemble [at least to me]
Emma,they look EXACTLY alike. Hatsu has a non -variegated leaf with a longer central lobe.
I've been having problems with my JMG's setting seed, but not the other species (purpurea, lindheimeri, lutea, etc.) I think it's just been too darned hot for the JMG's to set, since they seem to be the only ones affected here. The few I. nil that I have that aren't the 'classic' JMG have done better, so it's my guess that the ones from Japan are just probably more sensitive due to their breeding, but I could be wrong about that. I'm just hoping when the weather here in Texas starts to cool off a bit next month I'll see better results. I didn't have this kind of problem at all last year.
I haven't been keeping exact track of how long it takes the pods to mature on mine, but I know it's not a long time. I estimate mine take 4-6 weeks to mature, depending on the plant and how large the pods and seeds are.
HTH,
Stacey
Stacey,
I too have been having problems with mine setting seeds as well. I started several more not long ago, so I'll see how they compare. It is so, disappointing to look at those vines with only a few seed pods, rather than all seed pods as I've always experienced.
well ,my Hatsu Arashi's are setting seeds by the truckload.The others only just started blooming,so it's too early to tell.
This message was edited Aug 10, 2005 1:07 AM
Emma,do you have an invisible friend? LOL!
Hilarious!
Posted to the wrong Thread....duh!
you get to bed RIGHT NOW,young lady!!!
OK!
Brain not working this late....lol
Probably my 3 hour drive back from Houston.
Hey Stacey, I blew my horn at you as I passed your house *-*
*waving*
Allrighty,I'll start 'er off with Blue Silk
..followed by Blue"henka"
ending with Heian No Kagayaki
Heian No Kagayaki
Gail, what Beauties you have today - ALL OF THEM
Hi Everybody,
The pictures look great(!)
Janis - The bloom you have is one of the creamy-white variations with an unpigmented throat and some small speckles of pigmented color that the I.purpurea speckled strain can produce...This speckled strain will produce 'speckled' colors in the range of all the regular pigmented I.purpureas...in addition to the white form with the rosy colored throat...I also have a very light all blue that came out of the speckled where the entire throat and limb is the same exact light blue color and shows no star pattern whatsoever...
Gail - The flower comparison is a very interesting one,and is certainly 'thought provoking'...I am tending to think that the different leaf types would indicate somewhat different parentage,despite the remarkably similar color blooms...
The latest "Blue Silk" you just posted looks more like the lavender colored one you had posted earlier,but with an almost perfect 6 pointed white star in the central region...the outermost portion of the limb looks almost like a diluted 'turquoise' color...
Stacey - the seeds on my plants can take about 8 weeks to mature here in the zone I am in,especially pods that are maturing late in the season,but I've had some mature as fast as 5 weeks when their metabolism is running faster,as it can in the warmer zones...
Excellent pic of Akathoukinoumi,my daughter's. Emma,this the exact color and form to compare yours to.
Thanks Gail - this will be a great help.
my I. purpureas this morning. These are on two different vines and just happen to bloom touching one another.
