All About Hoyas (Questions)

I don't know if you can tell in the photo, but they're both varigated. They one they called hindu rope is green in the middle with cream edges, and the one they called Mona loa is cream in the middle and green on the edges. It is possible that I put the wrong lables on each when I potted them up. Thank you.

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This message was edited Jun 28, 2005 11:35 AM

see this previous discussion about the variegated forms of compacta: http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/416107/

To recap,

-variegated H. compacta aka H. compacta 'Regalis' (prev. patented name) is the one with the white/cream leaf margins.

-reverse variegated H. compacta aka H. compacta 'Mauna Loa' (prev. patented name) or aka H. compacta 'Picta' or aka H. compacta 'Lura Lei' (I think), is the one with the white/cream in the center of the leaf.

Thank you Milan! I was wrong and Jdee's labels are right. I'm so sorry Jdee! I was misinformed. I will correct my own tag.

Jdee, I do believe yours are labled correctly, I have the same two and they are taged the same as yours. If your's are wrong then so are mine, do a google search.

Cindy

This message was edited Jun 27, 2005 11:34 PM

Lovely looking Hoya plants, jdee. :)

Cindy, forget about a Google search as there are many people like you which have it mislabled.

So in order to make you a believer here's the proof:

Hoya compacta cv. Mauna Loa was patented by B. L. Cobia Winter Garden Florida in 1971 (filed 1969), Patent Number is PP3054.
Here's the link to the US Patent and Trademark Office for this patent, just note that it is sometimes very slow and pages may not load completely: http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=US0PP003054&PageNum=3&IDKey=98CF6BFC4842&HomeUrl=http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1%2526Sect2=HITOFF%2526d=PALL%2526p=1%2526u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm%2526r=1%2526f=G%2526l=50%2526s1=PP3054.WKU.%2526OS=PN/PP3054%2526RS=PN/PP3054

Hoya compacta cv. Regalis also was patented by Barnell L. Cobia but later on in 1973 (filed 1971), Patent Number is PP3306.
Link: http://patimg1.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=US0PP003306&PageNum=3&IDKey=C0CD7F43DEC7&HomeUrl=http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1%2526Sect2=HITOFF%2526d=PALL%2526p=1%2526u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm%2526r=1%2526f=G%2526l=50%2526s1=PP3,306.WKU.%2526OS=PN/PP3,306%2526RS=PN/PP3,306


Hopefully this will put the confusion to bed :)

Just noticed that the links above will now show as "time limit expired" since they do not want you to make permanent links to the individual patents. (Those buggers :)

go here and manually type in the Patent number in the search box (PP prefix is required): http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/srchnum.htm

Your post to recap above is telling me that Jdee has her's labled right, and I also looked at the old post and read them. Compacta has the cream/white leaf margins and Mona loa has the cream/white in the center going to green on the outer edge, right? :)

Cindy

To avoid confusion, I've deleted my incorrect posts.
Christine.

H. compacta is the all green form.
H. compacta cv. Mauna Loa (not Mona Loa) has the cream white in the center of the leaves http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/57708/index.html
H. compacta cv. Regalis has the white margins

Speaking of the 2 varieties (Mauna Loa and Regalis), does either require different light conditions or both exactly the same?.....

Sandy

Sorry for the miss spelling! :) I know I have all three of them, am I missing something here or didn't I just say that? Jdee's are correct?

Cindy

Jdee's are correct calicat.

Thank you! :)

Sigh.

BTW Milan, I guess you were on vacation when I bought my "Regalis", that Marizee_dotes ID'd as a "Mauna Loa" - http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/510314/ -

Now that I re-read it though, she only thought it was a Mauna Loa.

Sigh.

All that is important is that now we know.

Christine.

Christine, also Carol ID'd it as 'Mauna Loa' there. To err is human and by no way am I exempt from that
I never can remember which one is which with both carnosa and compacta cultivars and that's why I left my comments in the PlanFiles here under the cultivars so that I can quickly go back and read what I wrote there :).
I didn't write any comments under 'Regalis' yet as there is a double entry in PlantFiles and want to have that fixed up beforehand.
Btw the patents actually name them as H. carnosa compacta which is said to be wrong. I believe that CB defined that compacta is its own species (possibly after the patents where granted)


Anybody here remember the Patent numbers for carnosa Krimson Queen, Krimson Princess and Krinkle 8?

Milan

You kidding? I have to write my phone number on the palm of my hand when I go to town!!!

Carol

Sorry to all for causing this confusion. I checked my labels, and I did misspell Mauna Lao. I was trying to type it from memory.

thanks for answering the light requirements for both species .....I wasn't quite sure if it was more light or less light than the green compacta.....my mom has a mauna loa in her east window and does quite well with morning sun....

Sandy

I have another question. My hindu rope plant has a stem of leaves that are shrively (is that a word). I assume it's shock from being shipped and will plump back out. Is this true, or should I cut it off?

On a more positive note, the pubicalyx has bloomed. I noticed it beginning to open earlier this afternoon, but when I got home from Walmart tonight, I noticed the most delightful fragrance. I looked over to see that my hoya had fully bloomed. I'll take a picture of it tomorrow. Also I got a H. Kerrii from a nursery a few towns over. I seem to be out of control. What is it about hoyas?

jdee..."stem of leaves that are shrively" (I can't do that box thingy Milan does...). That could mean that there is a break/bend/crimp/sumpin' on the stem that is denying nourishment to that part of the stem... I would work up the vine from the last strively leaf and try to find where it has broken. No break? Then find where the vine starts from the plant and work that way. IMHO.

Aloha, Carol

PS H. carnosa and family really do very well in very low light conditions. Low light where they ARE...but "off there nearby" is very bright indirect light.

It seems to be the whole stem. I guess I need to just cut it off.

Here's my bloom. I just love it.

Here's my H. Kerrii. It didn't come with a lable, so I looked it up in the PF.

Way to go jdee! And there's an addition to the collection!

I'm so excited. Thanks for getting me started, Susan.

Quote: "Also I got a H. Kerrii from a nursery a few towns over. I seem to be out of control. What is it about hoyas?"

I think they have some strange cells deep within them that send out subliminal messages to anyone in range that scream out, "BUY ME.....BUY MORE OF MY KIND!" lol

Sorry if I misled anyone on the compactas. Thanks Milan for info in this thread on that, (I copied & saved the info. for future use). I have always been a bit confused on those before.

Congrats Susan on that lovely variegated kerrii too. They grow so slowly at first. You are lucky to get a nice large one.
Your pubicalyx bloom is delightful also. They seem to bloom easily and BIG and beautiful . I love the different ones I have too.
I'm also glad your addicted now too, because the more..the merrier around here I say. Then us other hoya nuts don't feel alone in our obsession. lol
Marcy