Grub Worms

Just put out all my wintered Brugs and was planting or repotting them.
All had Grub Worms in the pots. Big Fat Juicy Ones. LOL
About 6 and up per pot, making meals of my pride and joy.
So I planted them all right in the ground.
How do you all get rid of them.???

I think there is something you can sprinkle on your lawn that will get rid of them. I don't remember what it is called, but I ipurchased it at one of the big discount places like HD or WM.

Squash them!!!
Bonnie

Beneficial nematodes should do it.

http://www.planetnatural.com/site/beneficial-nematodes.html

The bad thing about grubs is that the moles like to burrow for them. Once I got rid of them, the mole problem was gone. They went to the neighbors. Because of getting rid of the grubs, I now have next to no June bugs. I'm sure I'll have to treat again one day, but the result was worth it the first time.

Aren't grubs the larva of Japanese beetles?
I would think a treatment that you use on your lawn would work on them
not sure how it would effect a brug though

They could be larva of Japanese beetles, June bugs(both the green and brown) and a myriad of other hard shelled bugs. Milky spore sprinkled on the ground should do them in, or a product called Grub-ex(I think it contains imidicloprid but not sure). Six or more per pot is a lot of grubs!

I think they are CC. In the Midwest, we call them June bugs because that is when they start coming out of the ground. There are lots of kinds of grubs, so I'm not totally sure.

This year I bought a container of Bonide Systemic Granules for all those sucking bugs. Wonder is it will kill the grubs? Nothing on the label refers to them.
This winter I will take large cuttings and do it that way. Except for two or three special ones I am putting in Muck Buckets.

Ok, since Japanese beetles were mentioned, I'll ask here. Has anyone ever been chased by a JB? No, I'm not crazy, or spending too much time in the hot sun. For the last two summers here, I have been attacked by these nasty bugs. They actually fly at me, circle around and keep coming back until I run inside and hide. It is very humiliating to be chased from your garden by a bug! It's as if they are territorial. Just curious if it's just a San Jose thing. If the grubs are the larva, I'm going to have to declare war.

OK.. Here's what you do. Start carrying a bowl of soapy water with you.. when they start to swarm start knocking them into the water.. they'll leave you alone after that..lol

Did you cross bread them with a bumble bee?

The bumble bees are no problem - we co-exist peacefully. I keep a tennis racket in the garden and when the beetles dive at me, I knock 'em out. They're just slow enough to make them an easy target. At least I think they are Japanese beetles. Their shells are a flourescent blue/green color.

Sounds like it to me. Maybe they like your perfume?

I try not to wear any if I'm going to garden...the bees like me too much then. I can't be the only one these bugs chase...c'mon, if I can share my humiliation, you can, too!

Angela...to my knowledge we do not have Japanese beetles here on the West Coast...is it a rather large beetle type bug? More black and blue than brown and irridescent? I will try and find a photo of one that I think you might mean. Do you have a photo of one? What size is it?
Margie

Margie, I don't have a photo, but I have seen it for the last two years, so my guess is it will be back, ready to attack again this year. The next one I knock out with my trusty tennis racket, I will be sure to photograph. The reason I thought it was a JB is that when I went to the flower conservatory earlier this year in San Francisco, they had a display of JB and mine looked just like them. Definitely an irridescent green on black and about the size of a quarter, though not quite as round.

I will have to do a search on the web and see what I come up with.

Ok, my attack bugs are similar to the JB, but the JB seems to have a green thorax and the main body is more of a bronze. The ones I've seen are irridescent green overall. Now I'm really curious and will almost look forward to get these mean bugs id'd.

Do a search for Japanese Beetle on Google and then click on images at the top of the page. There are all kinds of pictures there.

i have always heard of both the green & brown called June bugs
because they both seem to hatch in the summer around June
& the larger Green ones are nicknamed Scarab which i know is a different beetle

Dick

HAHAHAHAHAA Attacking junebugs! You sound just like mywife! She also swore they were after her...Some of them may have been but I have always enjoyed catching them and tossing them in my wife's lap or other lady friends of ours!LOLOLOL I've been beaten and cussed so many times but I just can not resist. BTW I'm also about the most jokingly sarcastic, fun loving, and onery man in my neck of the woods I'm told. Now that I'm reduced to a wheelchair in order to get around, I find myself being repaid 10 fold for all of the years I got over on all of my friends. LOL You'd think they would cut a poor paraplegic a break! Hahaha, no dice there. But I still haven't slowed down my antics much either. I've learned to curl up in the fetal position fast as all the wemens in my life beat me senseless.LOLOL

IF YOU WANT TO GET RID OF GRUBS ONCE AND FOR ALL, THIS IS FOR YOU!
If you want to rid your lawn, plants and almost completely rid them of even flying around your porch lights...Here is the only proven method and I've tested this stuff on 11 different pieces of land ranging from 1/2 acre to 5 acre's.

STEP ONE:
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I HIGHLY RECOMEND EVERYONE READ THIS LINK AS THESE PRODUCTS ALSO KILL FLEAS, TICKS and dozens of other pests as well as the grubworms. Both products will kill grubworms but you may find 1 is better for your application if you have other pest products.

As I mentioned above, I have used these products for many atleast 10 years now in lawns from S. Texas to N. Kansas and the result's have been the same. I used them on my yard first about 11 years ago. I only bought the Milky Spores initially and just for grubworms which are the larvae of junebugs. I have never seen a Japaneese beetle before and I'm sure won't around here now. I still find the occasional grub worm now and then but never enough of them to do any damage to any of my plants or lawn. As an added bonus, we can now sit outdoor's under a bright light with out annoying junebug's flying into eveyones hair or drinks. We still will get 1 ever here and there but very few as before we had countless amounts of them.
I ended up adding scanmask I believe just because I saw all the pests that they could/would kill to keep fleas and ticks off my animals and people.

I recomend these products over any pesticide that you can buy or pay to hve spread on your lawn for grub control. Trust me when I say we(several friends and family member's over the years) tried every product on the market trying to get a grip on grubworm control. I think the chemicals merely killed off a few grubs and most all of the beneficial bugs that all our favorite reptiles eat and they died due to my use of chemicals. Through Planet natural, I have now found biological friendly remedies for every lawn and garden pest and I've also noticed an increase in many benefical insects and all of my misc. rodents and reptiles that I welcome to my home are also thriving. It is truly a win win situation and I promise you will not be let down by these products.
I do not work for nor sell these products. I only care about Ma Nature and all her critter's that bring us joy while gardening.
I also highly recomend buying Planet Natural's Garden variety Pack of misc. insects. They come with many cool insects that I no longer see much around anymore plus it is entertaining for the children. Every summer we hatch out Praying Mantis and release them back into the wild as I rarely see them anymore like I used to. I know they kill many beneficial insect's too but when they do hatch, they are way too small to kill anything like Lady Beetles or anything you care about. I just can't say enough for this companies products and approach to pest control. You can even call them and ask questions and they're very helpful folk's. They also stand behind their products. I had a few bugs I bought in 1 of my variety packs that never hatched or had hatched out in the mail and got away or died. I called them up and I had free replacements in my mailbox that very same week and I didn't have to come up with a reciept or any hassles like that.
OK...Off my soapbox and back to my plant's. I apologize if my long post/rants take up too much space. I just see this topic so often that I thought I would rant long and hard this time. Can anyone think of a place here at Dave's I should post this info so peoplecould find it with out me doing this every month or 2? I'll happily edit down this post and move the pertinent info elsehwere.
Have a great day all! Jeff

Thanks Jeff. I wrote them last week to mention that they had told me they would replace my mantis egg sacks, that didn't hatch last year, and I got an email right away saying they would be shipping them May 14. I love the Scan Mask. It has really taken care of my fungus gnat problems.

JL ;your information taken to heart. Will start war now.

I'm so ashamed, I thought grub worms were good and I had no idea they could fly. I am not a worm or snake person, they are all the same to me, horrid! I got grubs mixed up with night crawlers, which are good, huh, I have tons, but no grubs. Hey, JD, nice to see you here today. I would love more praying mantis here. When you have occasional mantis, is there any way to attract more, that are already here??

TARogers5
Hey I just saw you listing Kingston OK. as your home. Do you literally live in town or out around the lake somewhere? I spent the majority of my childhood weekends and entire summers at a little red cabin just off the main drag in town. Say your coming from Madill into town then you turn right going by Leon's and the Masonic lodge then the road turns into asphalt highway(I forgot the name of that road). Anyhow, my Grandfather built that lil red cabin that sits on the left hand side of the road. My cousin owns it now and and we also have property in Oakview by the water just on the other side of Enos.
I don't get down that way nearly as muchas I used to and would like to darnit. Now it takes me about 8 hours to get there and that's with a good tail wind and a heavy foot. I sure envy you being able to live down there. If I could find a way to live there and not be in the poorhouse because of it, I'd be there inna heartbeat.

LOLOL I just re read your post and the word WAR! It brought back memories of my dad in his yard literally peeling back small sheets of grass like sod w/o roots. Here is my father on his hands and knees picking out grubs 1 after another and finding evil torurous ways to kill them as he grumbled and cussed under his breath!~!! And then myself when I discovered that the grubs were doing the same to me except they brought a bunch of moles along for a yard party at my expense. Man I was throwing a fit filling up little dishes with grub worms so I could sit back and wathc the robins eat them up as soon as I put them out. Those birds learned fast that whenever I was in the yard grumbling at the dirt, they had a meal coming soon!LOL
Then a month or so later when the moles began partying heavily and I twisted my ankle on 1 of those tunnels they dug... The next day I brought home that flexible rubber hose that automotive shops use to pipe car exhaust out garage doors in the winter...Except I piped it from my truck into th earth and went from mound to mound sniffing for exhaust!LOLOL My nieghbor worked at a HVAC company and brought home these huge smoke bombs they used to test for duct leaks on big commercial buildings. I had a few of those going off and using leafblowers and shop vacs to force the smoke through the tunnels until my yard looked like a war zone. Man I had mice and garter snakes and other critters come flying out of those holes after that but no moles. I must have killed off a few with those antics.
I can finally laugh at it all now. I was much younger then and just bought my 1st home. It was the first time I ever has grass I cared about too. Goodness gracious I wished I had that kind of energy these days to waste it like that and still have plenty to spare. Ahhh those were the days;)
G'night all, JD

Yes, Brugie, I did a search and my beetles were very similar except the JB have a bronzer body and the white dots along the sides (in the photos I saw). I will take a photo of the grub and the bug when I see them again.

JLD, you still sound onery. I'd kick my husband's butt, too if he tossed one of those bugs in my lap...don't you go giving him any ideas.

Now I swear to you all that I am not exagerating about how these bugs attack. They have grazed the top of my head twice now. They fly at you, go past and up in the air and turn around and do it again. They will come back again and again until you are gone or they are knocked out. When I hear them I grab the racket or a lid off the big plastic bins and start swinging like a crazy woman. It's good that they have a distictive buzzing sound so I am warned when they are around.

JLD, I think I probably will try the milky spore if it isn't harmful to the earthworms. I'm getting tired of being chased by onery bugs! I'm like you in that I don't want to hurt the good bugs(ok, maybe a bit onery, too).

JD know the place on the road to Caney Creek. Your story reminds me of one my father told me. Only he was using carbide to put in the holes. A neighbor came over and dropped a cigerarte butt. Blew the whole yard up encluding some small trees, Had smoke coming out of holes in the yard next door. LOL Still did not get rid of the moles.

Plaint_fiend
I don't know if it's possible for the milky spores to attract more earthworms or not or if it's all the composting etc..
I do know that ever since the grubs have been gone along with all the other pests...You can't turn over a single rock or mulch with out finding earth worms around here. I think between scanmask and milky spores, maybe it has just made more room for earthworms and nightcrawler's..
I PROMISE NIETHER PRODUCT WILL HURT YOUR BELOVED EARTHWORMS. I did my research on all of these products hard and heavy as they all sounded too good to be true. I couldn't find 1 single downside to using them and countless reason's for using them.
Take a moment to read the description of the milky spores at planet natural and how they last forever. I found that hard to believe but now I believe they have also spread into my nieghbor's yards and is working there too.

If you have a grub problem that needs an immediate kill. You should use the scanmask first to spot treat the worst hit spots since they begin working in 24 hrs. Milky spores take awhile to build up in numbers and totally rid the yard of grubs. Plus they go dormant when it gets cold out.
We noticed that the first spring after using milky spores, we still found some grubs but they were all smaller. Each year it got harder and harder to find a grub. For example, the 1st year, 1 shovel full of dirt would have atleast 6 grubs. That fall you'd find maybe 1. The next year we'd find 1 per several shovels full and so on. Now this spring, we have dug up everything ammending the soil etc. and have found only 1 tiny grub.
But after using milky spores, finding the occasional grub is a good thing. For each grub that these baby killers infest and kill, that dead grub dies off and releases MILLIONS more spores into that area and it just multiplies exponentually over and over.
We live on 1 acre but each yard beside ours is another acre each way for several acres. After the moles left my yard, they went next door the following year. Then each year after that, I could see the mounds moving further and further away until I can't find one with in probably 15 acres of our land now. Behind our house is a huge lake and park area that also had serious mole problems. I believe my spores have made their way 3 acres back and rid this end of the park of grubs and moles.
Just read the can at that website and it explains how they continue to multiply and spread forever until all grubs are gone. they then will go dormant until a food source appears again and they fire back up and the killing begins.
After discussing this hear, I called my cousin in OKC lastnight. He lives on 8 acres and i brought him spores and scan mask about 5 years ago. He had a golfcourse lawn until grubs and moles moved in. Well it was to exspensive for him to treat all 8 acres so we treated the 4 acres his house and backyard gardens sit on. The second year you could still see evidence of grubs on the very back end(2 acres) but not enough for moles to stick around. lastnight he told me the same story I'm telling you! How he was able to watch the grubs move away and how the moles went from nieghbor to nieghbor. He lives on a huge park area too but it is part golf course and now he couldn't find but a handful of grubs when they tilled the back 2 acres for a veggie garden last month.
He too was amazed by having more earthworms too. I have no idea what to contribute that too exactly, I just know what I'm told and see.
I don't see a downside at all.
Man I should show all my rants to planet natural! They should be sending me my garden variety packs of bugs for free now. I wished I would of told everyone to use my name when ordering!LOL I think it is worth it for what it does for the enviroment. that is payment enough for me.
Well I need to quit drinking coffee and babbling. I have cuttings to take and root, seeds to plant in trays and so on.
Goodluck all.
JD

Sounds like someone should think about doing a co-op. I wonder if they would give a discount to DG members if the numbers were high enough. Just thinking out loud here......

Judy

Good thread, thanks TARogers5. Now I know how to get rid of these nasty grubs and bugs. Good luck getting rid of yours, too.

Thanks for all the good info, JLD.

Our June Bugs must have reset their clock incorrectly. They are out now. By late afternoon, they are clinging to the door screen waiting for the door to open. I found a bunch floating in our calves' watering tub. These guys must think they are April Bugs. I just ordered Milky Spores for the area around the house.

JD, will Milky Spores still work even though the grubs have become adults? How far out into the pastures should I go to get rid of them around the house? Do the adults travel long distances? I hate it when they land on me.

I believe..(not 100% sure) that Milky spore is touted as being specific for Japanese beetles. So it wouldn't work for June Bugs. Maybe Nematodes would be better for those?

bettydee. You living in the LoneStar state makes for cocky junebugs IMO. Typical Texan attitude ya think? LOL I won't mess with Texas and I love it there dearly, I just had to make a joke. I have noticed the same thing as you with april bugs when I'm at Texoma. I would treat atleast 1/2 acre around your house, a full acre if cost isn't an issue. Milky spores take a little while before you will see a noticable decline in junebugs I THINK. I'm not positive though. I put mine down in fall(the spores go dormant when the ground is freezing or close to it) so they had a few months to get established that fall and the following spring to get kicking. So I'm not sure how long it will take to see a decline in junebugs. You could use scanmask or hetromask for nematodes that begin working hard and heavy in 24-48 hours but it is more expensive.
Are you trying this for killing junebugs or for a grubworm problem?
Both the milky spores and scanmask are intended to kill the grubs due to the damage they do to lawns and the decrease in junebugs is kind of a "side effect" but I'm not positive. I know niether of the products do anything to adult junebugs. But I also notice a huge decline in junebugs as a result.
I'm sorry I'm not more help on this 1.

jazzpunkin
I'm not sure if you read above on this post and I'm also uncertain what the term "touted" means exactly. I do however know for a fact that milky spores kill grubworms that are the larvae stage of junebugs. I posted above what I have observed with these 2 products over the last 10 years on several properties. The goal and end results of all was to kill grubs and both products do very well. My thinking is that since it kills the grub form of japaneese beetles and junebugs, it may very well kill off most any beetle that has a grub like larvae but we've only had a chance to try it on the 2.
Goodluck all. JD

JD, I've been finding Junebugs in my bagged potting soil so there must be some eggs or grubs there also. The damage those grubs will do in pot is worse. Every time I dig in my garden, I find grubs. I want to kill both the Junebugs and the grubs.

Hey JLD..

No I have heard that milky spore was specific to Japanese beatles..and then I have heard that it would kill all grubs.. who knows... THe first part was reading and the all grubs was word of mouth..

IN POTTING SOIL? man I'd be so mad at whoever sold me that, I can't imagine what they could do inna pot.

Jazz
When I 1st saw the product, I actually thought japaneese beetles must of been the same things as june bugs!LOL All I knew was planet natural said milky spores killed grubworms and the label said J. Beetles...Man did I feel like a meathead, I'm so glad I didn't go round bragging it up before figuring out that tidbit of info. I thought the same as you in the very beginning as milky spores has no mention at all about junebugs. Luckily I called them and they told me they were close enough to one another that milky spores would get them too.

News Flash here! after all these years of seeing declining numbers of grubs every spring...I had come to the conclusion that the milky spores couldn't gety rid of all of them so a few grubs was going to be the norm. Well this spring after ammending all the beds, doing lots of planting, tilling etc...We found 1 puny tiny grub out of almost 1/2 acre of beds. I found that a little odd as the last few years we'd find maybe 1/2 dozen every spring then 1 here and there through out the summer. It kind of confuses me. So you think this means we've killed off so many junebugs/grubs that there aren't enough adults left on the property to lay any eggs(or whatever they do to reproduce and create grubs) anymore at all? Hmmm Now I'm gonna have to find the reproductive cycle of these buggers to answer that Q.

OH BTW.
With the alfalfa teas and other compost teas we've talked about over the years...Well today I was at the highschool talking to a biology teacher and a professor from K State and they're making a compost like tea except the micro organisms in this kind are actually used as a pesticide!!! I'm getting my hands on the recipe and details really soon so I can better understand it. He was showing me today how they were using it in 2 sterile cabinets(these cabinets are designed to keep out any unknown variables in such expiraments), 1 to battle perythium or another P word that effects seedlings and causes rotting conditions and the other was battling mealybugs I believe. Both expiraments were successful so far and totally organic! The professor was telling me they are working with the state extension office and other college facilities before publishing these new discoveries and experiments.
Its very odd as they fed the bacteria they were battling these pests the same kind of molassis and raw sugars that we used to feed the bacteria and micro organisms used to innoculate our soils and feed our plants. I'm not doing it any justice with this sad description. I didn't have time to get the full plan so I'm describing it the best I can. All I do know is it may revolutionize the way we battle some pests and bacteria's using all organics on a microscopic level. Very cool stuff. More to come ASAP.
JD

Thanks for the update :)

U Betcha;)

Just found this forum desperatly seeking information on Junebugs (YUCK!!!!!!!!) I knew you guys would have the answer.. I am in the Planet natural website looking at the Skanmask and as close as I can figure I will need 3,630 pints for my little one acre of infested paridise WOW somehow that is much much more then I wanted to spend Please tell me I figured this wrong. I don't want grubs don't want grass dying at the roots, don't want junebugs but don't want to spend $23.50 x 3630 I am afraid to even add that up.

Sandy

CALL THEM!!! Get them to check your calculations for you.

Judy