Blue moonflower....

Anybody found it yet? I know I would pay a pretty penny!!!

I am thinking it doesn't exist anymore
http://www.geocities.com/queenb120467/Blue_moonflower.html

hmm i think at one time all of us looked for this one.


i think the closest you wil get to it is whats called the red moonflower or in actuality is a light purplish color. if there really is a blue moonflower then it is so rare .



adding the last known Tucker seed house catalog was in the 40s so that morning glory could of been any one. there are so many names for morning glories i a morning glory lover cant keep them all straight. it can be anything


This message was edited Jan 30, 2005 11:23 PM

Are you looking for mg-blue or a blue moon flower plant? I have found a Dantura meteloides "Evening Fragrance" and have ordered it. I'm sure I will have lots of seeds this summer to share. lmk

Thanks Brenda but I and a lot of others are looking for a blue moonflower not datura . It did exist at one time bit may have gone extinct.

Calonyction aculeatum. Blue Flowered Moon-Vine. This vine produces thin, ovate leaves and large, sky-blue flowers. Not as well adapted as the White flowered variety.

That is according to an article from Ornamental Plants For The Rio Grande Valley.

I'm still looking...I've recently gotten some interesting information that may be getting me closer to it...my guess at this point is some old man or woman has it growing in their backyard without a clue as to what they have growing...I'll keep you updated.

QB

PS: I'm glad my webpage is starting to circulate...maybe someone will recognize it! :-))

QB,
We can only hope!!!

I was so excited the other day as I thought I had found some...

Turns out they were the Japanese red moonflower vines seeds...bummer.

You'd think a chance mutation of the white would happen again somewhere, someday...

Probably right, Stacey, someone is either growing it, and has no clue, or there are stashes of them around the country, in someone's drawer, or closet, lol...

look at this thread...she claims she had a pale blue one once...
http://www.thegardenhelper.com/cgi-bin/ubb/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000210;p=0

I have the red moonflower vine, that is actually kind of pinkish, then I have the lavender moonvine that has ruffled leaves, perennial, makes a huge tuber, and the seeds are encased in a large pod with fuzz all over them, a mess to clean..This one is very lavender..

Larkie

Larkie-
Yes, I have those, too. I really like the lavender one, but took a few years to really get going...
-T

I have really good news, and really bad news...

The good news is that the blue moonflower exists. I talked with someone who grew them. She said the following about them:
"Yes, I got the blue moonflower! It was a single stalk that produced a few buds and flowers. The flowers never opened completely and then died. I could tell that the petals had a bluish cast. I did not purchase it as seeds - it was already a plant that was started. I already mailed the seeds I had. However, I was disappointed that the flowers never opened up all the way like my white moonflowers than smell like Lemon Pledge did!"

So, good news is that it exists, that it is in circulation in the nursery industry(however small it currently is) and that it has also made it's way into the hands of a few traders, who will hopefully pass it along some day.
The bad news is that she doesn't have any seeds, anymore.

If you are one of those extremely lucky traders,reading this, and have some, I'll PAY! I'll trade! I'll do Both! lol...
-T

Seedpicker: Did your "contact" tell you where she got the plant? Was it from a nursery, or a gardening acquaintance....?

Thanks~

Sandy

Trust me, I asked a million questions!! And waiting several days for a reply was making me sick to my stomach with anxiety!

At the point at which I first wrote that, she had not told me, althought I HAD specifically asked...

A day or two later, she wrote me with the nurseries name, and the town, state, their website(no, they don't list it on their web site), and all the info.

I called the nursery(MANY states away from me!) and they said they won't have them for sale, until May.
They are a small nursery(not chain), and I really couldn't get much other information, as they had to let me go, (off the phone) because they were busy. I'll call back Monday morning and see what else I can find out.

I am trying not to get too excited, as I've been sadly disappointed, before...usually they turn out to be Ipomoea turbinata, muricata, macrorhiza, datura, or something else I already have. One person's blue is another person's lavender, is another person's pink, if you know what I mean! lol...

However, this is the closest, I think, that I have really come to finding it. My "source" is a master gardener, so I think she knows what she is talking about.(hopefully!)

She did say she'd traded them all away, and couldn't remember the people she'd sent them to, but did say she'd scratch around beneath where she'd planted it, to see if she could find some fallen seeds.

If I do truly get my paws on a "real" blue moonflower, I'll get on here, and plaster every single detail(including the nursery and their phone number), so that the rest of America can get some, and hopefully replenish, and continue the species!, lol... Until then, I just want to keep calm, and make sure this is not another big fat goose chase...

-T

Seedpicker,
we are all holding our breath!!!

Me, too!
...Think we can hold it until MAY??!!, lol...

Well, when you get some, PLEEZE throw a couple my way!! You know I'll haunt your dreams if you don't! *G*

I'm so thrilled you found someone who had them!!

OH, boy....just the thought of a blue moonflower vine...
Sure would be nice :-)

Queeny, you'd be the first to find out. I'll certainly let you know. I just didn't want to falsely get your hopes up.
I truly hope these are the real deal.
-T

Am glad to see the quest alive and well - hope you throw/trade a couple my way too - any progeny would certainly be shared around from this neck of the woods.

Found this:

BEAUTIFUL VINTAGE FLOWER SEED PACKETS from the 1930's or earlier. ASTER ! ! ! ! TUCKER'S "SUPERB" MIXTURE One unused seed packet in excellent condition measuring 2-3/4 by 4-1/2 inches with information about it on the back. It has a copyright date of 1918 on the front left hand corner down at the bottom of the packet. It is from my grandfathers old seed store in historic Carthage, Missouri. A man named Earl Tucker owned the seed store from the early 1900's up until 1945. My Grandpa, Ray Cantrell bought the seed store in 1945 and changed the name to CANTRELL SEED HOUSE & HATCHERY for as long as he had the hatchery. Then he shortened the name to 'CANTRELL SEED HOUSE'. This is a beautiful vintage seed packet. It is in excellent condition and is prettier than what the picture shows. Litho's are by: GALLOWAY LITHO CO. San Francisco Cal. MADE IN U.S.A. TUCKERS' SEED HOUSE CARTHAGE, MO. Perfect for any room, paris apartment or vintage gardening decor. It is the perfect size to matt and frame. Please add 2.00 for shipping. I will accept a money order, cashiers check, personal or business check and PAYPAL only through a banking account, (not a credit card). Questions are always welcome. Thank you for looking at my auction.

http://fashion.ivanina.com/NT/1/4_3977_Vintage_Flower_Seed_Packet_beautiful_ASTER.html

Hmmm...I wonder if she's had a green thumb and grown some family 'heirlooms'. Thanks, CW!

I emailed her, so I'll let ya know what happens...



This message was edited Feb 11, 2005 4:26 PM

Well, Debbie, emailed me back, and she said that she has lots of the unused Blue Moonflower packets, but no seeds. I'm waiting to hear back from her to see if she's ever seen any or knows anyone who may grow them.

Waiting!..............

This message was edited Feb 13, 2005 12:13 AM

I just found this thread and according to the picture, this is a beautiful flower. I have been searching the web for a while now trying to help you find them. I will continue to search and I hope I can find something. I would even like to have a few of these seeds myself.

JesseK

Thanks JesseK we need all the help we can get!!

i found a research center that back in the 1930s experimented with plants.

they have this listed on the plant experiment list and says its is not as adaptable as the white form was.

most of these plants never seeded or never made it.

i contacted this place asking about this plant after going through miles of site due to over the years some of the stuff like the links dont even work any more.

the color of the vine is listed as a sky blue color. it was a cross between
a white and another color (which was classified ( as it was blacked out)).





now i know morning glories are easily crossed. has anyone ever tried to cross a moon vine???


collect pollen during the day off a blue mg and put it on the moon flower at night then cover moon flower. shouldnt be to hard i think. espeacially if it was a cross.

You should go and read this thread...you may be surprised....

http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/423853/

I. alba and your blue morning glory won't cross pollinate. They belong to different subgenuses, so the pollen in totally incompatable.

QB