Rooted Cuttings in water

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

It was the weekly check up today and I deceided to do also a major cleanup. This is what the cuttings look after being four months in cool water.

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Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

Ready to go back out again

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Carmel, NY(Zone 6b)

Wow! Those are some awesome rootings! Mine look really sad now ~:-(

(Zone 7a)

Looking Good!

Kannapolis, NC(Zone 7b)

Great looking roots, Monika.

Lima, OH(Zone 5a)

Looking great, and they are GREEN cuttings also. Usually hard ones to root.
Do you have an idea what temp the water is? I never thought anything would root in the cold without molding/rotting.

Greensburg, IN(Zone 6a)

Monika those are thick looking roots, how long do you leave them in water befor potting up.

Doris

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

Gloria, the temperature in the Greenhouse is between 5°C - 10° during the day, depending on the sunshine hours.

Kareoke, I will pot them in March.

Spokane, WA(Zone 5b)

Monika,

I left a cutting in water for about 2 weeks, and the bottom part turned black and slimey. I went ahead and put it in soil anyways but it hasn't taken. Is there a reason for this?

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

Karrie, late fall, winter and early spring cuttings tend to rot.
Low temperatures and less light during the winter slows down the metabolism in the old plants. For that reason, cuttings cut during this time tend to rot.
The cuttings shown in the picture were taken last September.

Spokane, WA(Zone 5b)

Thanks Monika. I will try to remember this next year when I do cuttings. I'll try to do them earlier.

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

Oh, Monika, I'm glad to see this thread. Just to see if I could root them, I cut my cuttings really long, and some green long ones too - all have rooted and I'd like to know if I can now cut them in several pieces to see if they too will root. I'm going to do it on some anyway, but I'm also thinking that I should cut some in logs since I've never done that.
Does that sound like an okay plan??? TIA, your rooting are so nice, and, except that I have little on top and some really tall ones, mine are at about the same stage as yours.

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

Sherrylike, I am not going to cut my cuttings in small pieces because I want to see them bloom in June. The pieces would rot instead of rooting. It is very cool in my Greenhouse and the cuttings have gone dormant like their motherplants.

Mukwonago, WI(Zone 5a)

Wow Monika.....Those roots look so big and healthy...especially when I compare them to the cuttings I have in water. I must have done something wrong...once again.


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This message was edited Jan 19, 2005 5:20 PM

Chariton, IA(Zone 5b)

I really see no advantage in growing them as logs and they are more work, at least for me. I did a couple of logs last year.....so if you decide to do it, be sure that you don't put much dirt in the pot. As the new shoots grow, you need to add more dirt so they will root. They aren't strong just attached to the piece of rooted cutting material and need to be able to root into the soil in the pot themselves. It is a good way to get cuttings for other people though. One small cutting will send up several shoots. However, for making a tree, I would advise a vertical cutting in soil. JMO.

Monika, your cuttings are looking great. Reminds me that I have six that are ready to pot up.

SE Arky, United States(Zone 8a)

Thanks, Monika!!!! Since I got such a late start this fall, I'll bet I don't have anything bloom early, but you can bet I'll look forward to seeing your!! I appreciate your reply...

near Dallas, TX(Zone 8a)

Hi Monika,
I'm new to Brugs. I got my first unnamed ones this last year. They are whiteones and pink ones. I took cuttings just before the first freeze in late Nov.. They are in water with floresent light about 15' away. Some are about an inch in diameter and as small as 3/8". A lot of the whites have roots and lots of leaves and the pinks have few roots and a few have small starts of leaves. Could you tell me why the big difference? Thanks for any info.
luckpup

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Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

Hallo luckpup. Some brug cuttings root easy while others need more time. Another reason could be that the white brug cuttings were more mature than the pink cuttings.

Denver, CO(Zone 5b)

They look great Monika!!

Angleton, TX(Zone 9a)

Monika . . very nice roots and some good information. I bet you cannot wiat to get these planted.

RICHMOND, VA(Zone 7b)

Monika, it is so nice to see your healthy cuttings. I have about 40 that are rooting well, and I have potted about 40 others. Other than adding H202 to your fresh water, have you fertilized them at all at this point? I haven't, but some have yellowing leaves, and are slow in rooting.
I was planning to fertilize the potted ones 1/2 amt in Feb -- sound good?

Spokane, WA(Zone 5b)

I was given a Whiskers cutting, already rooted for me, from a member here. Recently, while moving it, I accidentally broke the top of it off. I took the top, broken part and put it in water for a few days and then planted it in a pot after litle white nodes appeard- it seems to be working - it's been in the soil for about two weeks and no signs of wilting. I ended up with two plants from one as the original one seems to be ok as well. I wouldn't suggest you do this on purpose, but if you ever accidentally break one - go for it. I did, just in case the original one died.

I'd take a pic of it but we just got our new camera yesterday and I haven't learned how to use it yet. I just started on some new meds and need to adjust to them before I try to do any reading that consists of technical learning, lol. I will take a pic soon.

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

Polly, I have not fertilized yet because the cuttings have gone dormant.
I keep my Greenhouse frost free but not warm. I dont use H202 at all, only fresh water. I control them once a week for water and rot.
If your cuttings are in a warm place, you may add a small amount of fertilizer without organic compounds. The fertilizer will encourage the growth of sea-weed. I hope it is the correct word for Algen lol. You have to remove it. It would suffocate the roots.

Spokane, WA(Zone 5b)

Monika - not sure about the word sea-weed - but perhaps you are thinking of "algae" - even looks similar to that word Algen.

Herbstein, Germany(Zone 5a)

Thank you Karrie. Algae is the bot. word for Algen. I was not sure, if Polly would understand what I meant.

Spokane, WA(Zone 5b)

I think she will.

GOD's Green Earth, United States(Zone 8b)

Monika, those cuttings look fantastic! I have only used this method once, and with excellent results. I need to do it more often.

RICHMOND, VA(Zone 7b)

I have my thermostat at 50 degrees F -- the heater has been running lots this week. I better hold off on the fertilizer, and just use fresh water as the water turns green after 10 days or so now. You have yours colder, and I think that would be good here, too. Thanks!

Spokane, WA(Zone 5b)

the green you see is algae - and you can skim it out, as one would do to remove ickies from a swimming pool. It has nutrients - you just have to keep it under control.

Milwaukee, WI(Zone 5a)

Hi,

I, in no way, mean to belittle or criticize your efforts in trying to root "brugs" in water but you certainly have very little success with this. ..judging by the photo.

I have a "never fail" system for rooting "brugs" and the growth rate is phenomenal. (In 4 months, they would be 4 - 6 ' high.) Set up an aquaponic system. It can be very small...even a 10- gal fish tank would suffice. Run your fish water (effluent) through a grow-bed with small pebbles as your filtering medium.

I have a 2,000 gal recirculating aquaponic system and can grow almost anything I want from cuttings. I never have a brug fail to root in only a few days. Hope this helps........Steve

Northern, IN

Steve;

How 'bought a pic or two?

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

I sure do not want to talk for Monika, Steve, but I think you may be missing a big point here. It is wintertime in Germany and spring starts very late where Monika lives.

No offense, but I doubt Monika wants these to root in 3 or 4 days and I guarantee you she does not want them to grow to 4 to 6 feet high in 4 months. LOL! She may cringe at this thought. I would and I live in sunny California. What would I do with them over winter? My husband is already on the verge of killing me and my brugs and the biggest one inside is only 1 ft tall.

I am not sure, but I think, these are right on schedule for her needs. I bet she wants them to stay this size until she mails them out as she fills orders this spring. I know I am now praying my seedlings now stop growing for the next month and a half. Her greenhouses cost a fortune to heat in the cold winters of Herbstein, and I do not think she would welcome adding more to hold over these cuttings if they grew so fast. LOL

Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

Probably similar to what I use for my 'tall' cuttings. I didn't have room for everything in pots, so some that were growing in the ground, instead of digging them up I took 4-6 ft cuttings. Hanging on the wall is a aquarium air pump, split to provide air to 2 containers of water. These were started in November.

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Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

and here they are today. I've added another container (or 2). The water has not had to be changed and I haven't lost even one.

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Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

This is a smaller container on the same system. You can see the bubbles and the roots.

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Northern, IN

lhughes;

No change of water but what about any of the "usual" hydroponic chores like special nutrients, PH and all that jazz?

Does your ingenuious rig eliminate those as well?

Columbia, SC(Zone 8a)

dw, I don't know anything about hydroponics. All I've done to these since they started is to watch the water level and add when evaporation makes it necessary. This is the first year I've done this and it was copying what a member did here last year with good results. I usually take the easy way when one is available. (does that make me lazy)

Northern, IN

If it does, then I'm one of you.

Could you post a link to that old thread?

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

That is cool Linda. I esp like the grate you use over the top of the pails to keep them straight in the buckets. It also does not look like they are taking over the place. It will be interesting to see Steve's set up.

I still have it so ingrained in me not to share water between different brugs though. I would have to get past that. I finally have good habits. LOL

Chariton, IA(Zone 5b)

I'd say that Monika has done very well with her rootings in water considering she has about a thousand of them. What do you do with your 4 ft. tall brugs when you have a thousand of them, Steve?

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