just a little

The crosses make a seed that will grow orange... to get more sees they have to develop through the origional cross...[ perhaps a seriess of crosses ] but like root divisions.. I assume they are tissue cultureing it as well.. to get thoes little plants they will send in the mail for thoes prices.... [ do you think they will be 4" tall ] and a great item to have a demand for .. as the seeds from them won't give the folks what it is they want.. and I assume noone will go and make the origional series of crosses to produce that seed.. if they could even find out what the sseries was .. and get the varities used..
The crosses and seed development has probually been in the works for a few years to get enogh seeds to blast the market and create a demand.. social engineering .. with an unengineered plant... Gordon
picture is of a bit of the hallway.. under the fire ladder [ not obstructing egress ].. keeping one of everything alive in case dormancy is a problem..

GordonHawk, that photo you posted with the white brug in the middle was lovely. But i'm not sure what the red bloom is, at first i thought bouganvillea, but looking closer I think something else, very pretty. Donna

Could it be a poinsettia?

I did order one of the Meadow Brite from Parks- on sale for $15 for a 3 inch pot. And yes, I did sit here nauseated and disgusted with myself for spending that kind of money! But I saw a picture for the first time a couple of months ago and couldn't quit thinking about it so I just bit the bullet! I got the Wayside catalog and they show the Sunset (orange) and Sunrise (yellow) together. I think the Sunset and Meadow Brite look identical, but what do I know? :) I am still going to save some seed and see if they come true from the parent, but I won't hold my breath. I will be dividing them if/when they get big enough and will glady share some starts with anyone wanting to wait that long!

My more recent Parks order was for the Dolce Flambe petunias. I have a thing for orange/yellow/coraly/pink combos! So I got the Dolce combo that has the Flambe and two others with it. They are all in that color scheme.

DH says the gardening catalogs come straight from the Devil. I said so do the credit card statements and he is to keep his mits off both. Ha! :)

Jamie

I'm sure I'm wrong, but I don't think its a poinsettia. I thought the white blossom might be a double brug, but surely a mentor would have identified it, if it was. The red and the pink blossoms looked begonia-ish. I dunno............but I do know that all of them are beautiful!!!!

I think the red on the right is one of those new crinkly poinsettias and pinky-red on the left a cyclimania (sp?) of some kind in Gordons first picture.
I think I would love to see anyplace it takes 35 gal. to water at this time of the year indoors in the state of NY.
It looks like you are doing a good job Gordon, carry on.

Yes sugarweed you've come closest.. right on ... on all counts..
it is the new ..well new to me and I love it... a poinsetta with the crinkeley brackets..
a real neat variety.. complements of Lowes..
the pink one is a Latina Rose Flame Cyclamen .. from the Smith and Hawken retail
store here. they do have some nice things..
and yes.. a double brugmansia in bloom .. for the Christmas / New Year season... such a gift... I didn't think I needed to identify that one here.. although unusual perhaps.. at 40* North in January.. and the inner trumpet descended better inside than it did during the blooming last summer .. waht were the reasons given for the innertrumpet not to descend fully.. I rememb..er hearing it spoken of .. but at the time it wasn't an issue for me.. and I don't think I followed it too closely...
See anyplace that waters so much... well it is spread out.. here's another view of one of the areas... a little eearlier in moving things down..as there are more things in bloom.. showing I guess 1/4 of what's down here growing... there are two plumeria in bloom today though... such a joy... Gordon

Awestruck, just terrific, thanks for giving the unknown challenge. I USED to be very sharp on id, now it maybe returning.
I think all these great plants are soul therapy for the dreary winter. I used to load the house every fall, now I can play outside more, so I just have a dozen inside.
Yours are great.

2004 was the first year Orange Meadowbrite (aka Art's Pride) was introduced commercially. It was developed at Chicago Botanical gardens.
Beware - Everyone is going to say there are 'limited supplies' 'guaranteed to run out'. Don't worry about it and you'll also find them in your local nurseries. Monrovia is distributing so odds are you'll even see them in HD and Wally world but they'll still command a price. I wouldn't expect the price to go down much for awhile either, especially since you probably won't get it true from seed.
CUTTINGS! Buy one as a stock plant. I bought 3 from Wayside gardens last year and also a couple from a local nursery. They were pretty.

Razzamatazz! I absolutely cannot say enough about this one. The orange is nice but if you want to ooh and ahh everyday you go out and stop visitors in their tracks - Get This One. You will NOT be sorry.

I've also ordered a new long leaf yellow one for this spring but can't remember what it was called.

Gordon, what is the red in the right rear of your pic - a red brug?? Or are my eyes deceiving me, yet again. Also, regarding the 'poinsetta with the crinkeley brackets', could you point that out to me or do you have a photo, or did I just miss it (if so, drat, I'm sorry)??? I'm wondering if that is what I was given 3 years ago that was called a Christmas Rose??

Sherry.. the red was I think you're refering to was a hibiscus bloom...amongst the coral glow Brug in front of it.. CG is so much pinker ... I wish I had a brug like that... that red... I could retire to the shore..
the crinkley poinsetta was in the post 11 back on this thread.. I've posted three pictures in this one... gee it 's winter .. too much time on my hands.. that was the best picture of the poinsetta here's another not as good as the one 11 back.. but a better picture of my christmas double white or is it double white christmas...
Gordon

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Yes, yes, Gordon, I did indeed see that photo, but I did not realize it was a poinsettia. It looks soooo similar to what I bought that was labeled Christmas Rose. I ask because 'Christmas Rose' or what ever, was the most wonderful 'poinsettia' ever, it lived forever, until the carpenter tossed tons sawdust on top...thanks for the info!!!!!

Just had to bring this one back up to tell you of a site that has these coneflowers much more reasonable. Such a good price that I had to order more.

www.flowerscentgardens.com For Home page.
http://www.flowerscentgardens.com/echinaceaproduct.htm For coneflowers.
Glenn is such a nice guy and the plants I got from him last year were very nice. I would have said something sooner about these, but I just got my catalog yesterday.

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Wow!
This either proves the industry is robbing us blind or Glenn is independently wealthy, doing it as a hobby for a tax write off. Really makes me wonder where/how he could sell these for these prices

... BRUGIE !! You've caused me to trash my 2005 resolution of new-plant-abstinence since I've already placed an order.

Tissue Culture is probably the answer. LOL! I'm going to have plenty of them by the time I get all I've ordered. If one is good, four must be better.

THhhhaats right, and the Garden watchdog has many kudos for Flowerscentgardens.

"Don't look, Linda". Y'all make it so hard for me not to get carried away again this year.

Flowercentersgardens now has two orders from me. Glenn is an absolute 'Find' ! He's exchanged a few emails with me since I responded to his original thank you note for the first order.

Brugie, I owe you one for this link... and I owe you something else for knocking me off the penny-pinching wagon!!

Blaine, I still owe you. My rose is looking good. We will talk more this spring. LOL!

Forgot to say that Glenn is a really nice guy. I'm so looking forward to getting my plants and having some warm weather again. I almost hit the side of the garage door when I came home today. The ice is so think in the drive that it probably won't melt off until spring.

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Have you perused Wayside garden's spring mag? (... yeah I'm ordering tonight )

Anyway, I noticed the Equidor Pink brug in a pot looking all gorgeous in bloom. Read the description, yadda yadda and see it's a 3" pot they send. With a little brug smarts under my belt now I don't see how you'd get blooms from it before the first frost. ???

Watch that ice! We had an Alberta clipper barrel through here at 35mph last night then it was calm this morning. So much wind, all the new snow was piled in a drift between the vehicles, against the garage door and of course the plow had a nice slushy bank for me. Then it had misted and all the bare, windswept sidewalk/driveway was glazed over. Yeah, I went down and it wasn't pretty but I did manage to stay out of the rosebushes!!

Those brugs can surprise you. However, if you want EP, your would do well to get it from Valley Grow. He sends nice size plants and stands behind them. He doesn't have a lot of variety, but what he has will be good. I got my EP from him and it bloomed the first summer. I would have sent you EP cuttings, but I gave my plant away before I knew you wanted it. Sorry!!

Oh no, I wouldn't order it from Wayside. Until recently I wouldn't have even looked at the brug pic. I just didn't think it possible to have a 3" pot delivered in May and expect it to Y and be blooming before the first frost four months later.

8ftbed, I planted a seed last July and the seedling bloomed in Oct...then continued to bloom, one or two at a time, until frost. That poor baby was left outside by accident and badly bitten by the frost, broke my heart, my very first seedling!!!

Me, too, Blaine. I planted seeds last spring and had blooms in late summer and fall.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, 8ftbed, that all my rootings, with exception of Culebra, sp, bloomed, most several times and I got the rootings late and put them in the ground even later...

Fantastic! Nothing like having this real life experience so readily offered.
I ordered my first rooted cuttings the end of Nov after discovering this group. They're broad and growing in the basement. Then I had the one seed sprout from seeds Shirley sent me.

Tell me if this is typical: The seed sprouted, got it's first 2 leaves out and has paused. I'm assuming it's filling out the roots first before taking off on a growth spurt ??


Thank you....

Be patient. It'll grow.

When the weather warms and stays fairly consistent, you will be amazed how fast they grow. . . even those little seedlings. You will have so much fun with seedlings because you don't know what the bloom will look like and when the bud forms, then it will seem like forever before the flower opens. It is truly exciting!

8ftbed, you are going to be a fun one to watch this spring. It will grow but you must be patient. How do I know?? I was you last spring, lol!! The only cure I've found is to grow more brugs than you can take care of, so that at least some of the time, the little sweethearts have time to grow. You have some exciting time on the horizon, you are gonna LOVE it , your enthusiasm is contagious, and I do enjoy you posting about it...

talk about contributing to the delinquency of a minor!

With those pendulous flowers, how do they hold up in storms? We get some ridiculous late spring wind out of the SW and of course a few bad-boy thunderstorms during the summer

Here is what my Becca Lynn looked like last summer after one of our storms. It still had one short shoot standing and it bloomed just at frost. This was the only one I had that broke at the ground. I did have others that had broken limbs. Hail can be hard on them. Mine all ended up with speckled trunks after hail damage and of course the leaves were full of holes, but eventually, they can be removed and the new ones are fine.

If you go back to 2004, you will find that just about all of us fought rain, horrible wind, I even had hail and during more than one storm, tree limbs damaged some of the brugs.
I call that time of the year, the snail, hail, wind, mildew, flood, rebar season. Lots of us, mostly newbies, carted our young rootings in for protection, then back out for sun. Then, as a group, newbies again, we bought every kind of snake oil on the market, until MaVie told us that alfalfa pellets would do just about everything we needed. Of course we didn't 'hear' what MaVie said until the leafs fell totally off our brugs. But, we learned and I think all of us in the newbie class of 2004 had successes too, and, wow, was it ever fun...