Does anyone have a photo of cup & saucer vine seeds?

I now know what they look like.Thanks,Jody

This message was edited Nov 22, 2004 10:57 AM

If you mean Cobea, I don't have a picture but I did grow them (unsuccessfully - they never flowered) here two years running. They are a large (approx 1/2" long) black, and flat. To plant them, you're supposed to stick them sideways into the starter soil.

I had no problem getting them (the purple cultivar) started and having the vines grow all over the place on my trellis outside, however, I never got one to bloom -- even when started inside in March. I guess our season just isn't long enough or it takes more than one year for them to bloom - dunno? Anyway, I hope this helps. Strange, I'm in the same zone as you are - but maybe your summers are warmer, sunnier, or longer than ours?

Thanks someone sent me a couple this spring. I just put them in the ground and am still getting flowers,I just can't find the seeds.Thanks for the info. Jody

Jody maybe this can help?

Cathedral Bells, Cup and Saucer Vine (Cobaea scandens)
http://davesgarden.com/pdb/go/621/index.html

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~* Robin

I found what they look like.Thanks again,Jody

I Have seeds of Cassia hebecarpa & Cassia marilandica & they look different but I can't determine which is which. Does anybody know anything about what these two plants seeds look like? Thanks.

Google Search: 'Cassia marilandica'
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Cassia+marilandica&btnG=Search

Cassia Marilandica.—American Senna.
http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/eclectic/kings/cassia-mari.html

http://www.bihrmann.com/caudiciforms/subs/cas-mar-sub.asp

http://www.hawriverprogram.org/NCPlants/Cassia_marilandica_page.html

http://knps.org/Wildflowers/senna.htm

Goggle Images:
http://images.google.com/images?q=Cassia%20marilandica&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wi
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Google Search: 'Cassia hebecarpa'
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Cassia+hebecarpa&btnG=Search

http://www.hort.net/gallery/view/fab/cashe/

http://www.ionxchange.com/species_pages/c/cassia_hebecarpa.html

http://www.american-natives.com/SpeciesASP/Detail1/ch.asp

http://admin.wildflowerfarm.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=1&Product_Code=12050

Google Images: 'Cassia hebecarpa'
http://images.google.com/images?q=Cassia%20hebecarpa&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wi

Hope this helps!

~* Robin

Maryland Senna (Senna marilandica)
Maryland Senna is also known as Wild Senna American Senna and Locust Plant. Formerly considered in the genus Cassa.

Similar Species: American Senna (Senna hebecarpa is very similar, but rare. The hair on the fruit is spreading.

Medical Uses: A leaf tea is a very strong laxative which is sometimes mixed with other herbs such as Coriander to lessen cramps. Europeans were introduced to a similar Senna by Arabs and upon arriving in the Americas the Natives here introduced them the this Senna. Used as a laxative by herbalist it is also found in pharmaceutical preparations.

http://2bnthewild.com/plants/H201.htm

http://plants.usda.gov/cgi_bin/topics.cgi?earl=plant_profile.cgi&symbol=SEMA11

Senna marilandica (L.) Link
Maryland senna
Symbol: SEMA11
Group: Dicot
Family: Fabaceae
Growth Habit: Subshrub; Shrub; Forb/herb
Duration: Perennial
U.S. Nativity: Native

~* Robin

Edited to give you this:
Plant Index by Name - 2bnTheWild.com
http://2bnthewild.com/phvsixn.htm

And also to say; if you'd ever like to share some seeds of those 2 plants, email me.
I have unusual herb seeds that I grow and use too.

This message was edited Jan 13, 2005 7:45 PM

Ok, here's the proof in the pudding. I have taken a picture of both kinds of seeds, side-by-side. I think that C. marilandica is on the right & C. hebecarpa is on the left. Both plants are normally about 3 feet tall with yellow flowers and black stamens. This last year, the plant that produced the larger seeds grew to 5 & 6 feet because we got so much rain. The plant that provided the smaller seeds stayed at 3 feet. Any takers? Any help on this would really be appreciated. Thank you.

Maryland Senna (Senna marilandica) - Plant Type: This is a herbaceous plant, it is a perennial which can reach a height of 2 Meters (7 feet ) . It is usually erect and unbranched.
Fruit: Curved seed pods about 7.5cm (3") long with flattened hairs.
Habitat: Open or thin woods and thickets.
Range: Most of eastern and central U. S. South of the Great Lakes region.

Botanical Source.—Cassia marilandica is an American, perennial herb, growing from 4 to 6 feet high, with round, striated *(striped, grooved, or ridged)*, smooth, or slightly hairy stems. The leaves are alternate, on long petioles, at the base of which is a large, ovate, shining green gland, terminating in a dark point at top, which is sometimes double; each petiole contains from 8 to 10 pairs of leaflets, which are oblong, smooth, entire, mucronate, somewhat hair at the edges, 1 or 2 inches long, and from 5 to 10 lines broad. The flowers are bright yellow, in axillary racemes, extending quite to the top of the stem; the peduncles are slightly furrowed, and marked with minute, blackish, glandular hairs; sepals 5, oval, obtuse, the lateral the 3 upper have short abortive anthers; to these succeed 2 ones longest. Petals 5, concave, and very obtuse. Stamens 10, pairs of deflexed, linear, brown anthers; the remaining lowermost 3 taper into a sort of beak, the middle one being shortest. The fruit is a legume, from 2 to 4 inches long, pendulous, linear, curved, swelling at the seeds, furnished with slight hairs; seeds many (L.). It is sometimes called wild senna.
COMMON NAMES: American senna, Wild senna.

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This is a picture of Cassia hebecarpa with the pod still attacted to the plant (left side); you can see the shape of the seeds within. Height : 4' - 6', Soil : Sand to Clay, Water : Medium to Moist. http://www.hort.net/gallery/view/fab/cashe/

Cassia marilandica L. - Check the dried seeds pod at the very bottom of the page; and study the difference in the leaves: the tip of the leaves are much narrower, with a point at the tip. 6 to 7 feet high.
http://www.hawriverprogram.org/NCPlants/Cassia_marilandica_page.html

~* Robin

Ok, C. marilandica is on the left & C. hebecarpa is on the right. Right? Thanks so much for your help. With trifocals, it's not easy, determining from a pix.

Yes; Buttoner this is what I saw too.

Maybe it's because I'm near-sighted; like Mr. Magoo. LOL!

~* Robin

I didn't use to be near-sighted. I was actually far-sighted when I was younger and I thought I would reach a point where the eyesight would go to normal as I got more & more near-sighted as I got older but ya know, I think I passed it so fast, I never got to take advantage of it & now I'm near-sighted. Ahhhhh memories.