CLOSED: friend or foe?

#1

#2....This bug was camera shy, it kept moving behind the stem every time i got close.
Use to have these on our citrus, but this one is on the sunflower crop.
They let loose tiny droplets from the trees.

Hey, I have one of those on one of my plants, he moves really quick. Id like to know about this one too.
The first one is a spider wich is always a good thing.

Second one is a Glassy-Winged sharpshooter. Just discovered these recently.
http://citrusent.uckac.edu/glassywing.htm
http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/xylella/oss.html

#2, That's the critter, alright.
Thanks.
And I believe #1 is a young black widow, that's not matured to black yet.



This message was edited Jul 19, 2004 8:33 PM

That's cool about the Black Widow! ...Only because I have never seen a baby. I would not want them hanging around my place though.

I wonder if your spider pic is of the Achaearanea species.

See more here: http://www.usq.edu.au/spider/find/spiders/332.htm

Your spidey isn't marked appropriately for a black widow, and they tend to be more hidden away, also. I'm no spider expert so my opinions may well be based on incomplete information. The young BWs I've seen have been more colorless.

thanks judyb,
It's been a long time since I raised black widows
[for research], my memory may be slightly askew, Any-hoo, I'd like to find out if I'm off.
I did some looking on the google searches and didn't locate a photo of any newly hatched black widows, which are white then turn brown then black. As far as the tan-yellow markings on the tail, I'm not sure about the exact pattern. if any body can locate a photo[s] of some new hatchlings. that'd be great.

Here's a pic that I *think* is BW spiderlings

http://www.bugguide.net/node/view/2115?PHPSESSID=4040c8b3c615b8a6ec91946b0735dd1a

Found one!

http://home.cogeco.ca/~rbolton1/Folder/Spiderling%207.JPG

I think you called it on the nose!

This message was edited Jul 27, 2004 7:27 PM

Thanks.
heres another one
http://home.cogeco.ca/~rbolton1/Folder/Spiderling%204.JPG

You can click on the "spiderling" in this list at this link and see the progression.
http://home.cogeco.ca/~rbolton1/Folder/

Looking at very many of those spider pics gives me the heebie-jeebies.

I think the cure for that is the same as for hiccups.
Not sure tho. {;-}

So are BW's as poisonous as spiderlings as they are as adults? I've never seen live ones, just pictures thank goodness!

This message was edited Jul 28, 2004 2:36 AM

gardenwife,
I really don't know, i just raised them, in my mid-teens. My rule was, no matter what the age of the BW, treat them all as poisoness. It was the University that did the research on them.

Spiders are so beautifull, just like Cactus, when I was young my mom burned my collection in jars, scared her silly, lol lol

The second one turned out to be a very close relative of the "Glassy-winged", It is actually the "Smoke-tree Sharpshooter"