This is the second Whiskers X ? Seedling by T. McLeod. Seeds started on January 29, 2004. This one is a beautiful ruffled yellow with an awesome scent. So totally different from the other Whiskers X ? that I posted earlier this evening.
Check out my yellow ruffles!
Would love to see some more pictures from the side, etc.
I was given some seed to a purple ruffles and need help as when and how to plant then...
Any helpers out there?
Thx, Carol
Those are some great ruffles! Congratulations on growing her out!
Really pretty!!
I bet it gets darker Gretchen! You really have the brug touch!
Very pretty, Gretchen.
Very lovely!
Good morning and thank you to all! She is getting a wee bit darker and has touches of pink on her rim this morning. More pictures at daylight...
Very pretty, can't wait to see the new pictures.
Its daylight here,Hint Hint..
Updates...the pink is deepening a bit:
Side view:
Another side view:
Gretchen, it looks like the bees really like the first one today. LOL
Yes Ada, they do! They just plain like my garden, period...I'm sure there's a great honey hive around here somewhere LOL!
I've seen more honeybees the past two years. For a couple of years, I didn't see any.
Gretchen, that's a beauty. Think I'll come see you. LOL
Gretchen,
I simply love this one. I love the way it starts out and then transforms into a combination of Yellow, White and Pink.
Please keep me in mind if you ever share this one.
Truly beautiful.
Same here, Ada. I had heard that there was a mite that attacked them, guess they're making a comeback!
Come on over, Sylvia! Unfortunately most of the babies bloomed while I was on vacation... No hoping for a second flush. These were smaller and just starting...
TC: Thank you and, sorry I missed your birthday...hope it was a great one! As for cuttings, I'm not exactly sure what the protocol is for that. If it ends up being a keeper, which would be very questionable at this point, it has to be named, and then the hybridizer has the final say so on what becomes of it. It has to go through two entire blooming seasons before any determination is made. I just grew out the seeds for the hybridizer, and for my own enjoyment, of course :)
How pretty Gretchen!....
Thanks Dee! Its a very different looking bloom. Have never seen one quite like this...
Edited to say, thank you Pam -- must've been a brainfart, sorry!
This message was edited Jul 16, 2004 4:00 PM
Thanks for the birthday wishes Gretchen.
I hope you keep me/us posted on the progress and decisions about this one.
Question?
If the hybridizer decides something isn't a "keeper", can the plant be shared with others, or are you suppose to destroy it?
I need to find out the answer to that one. But, I think its days are numbered. That was discussed here several months ago, as Kell had one that had to go, and I think it ended up being destroyed, but I could be wrong. From what I recall, they want to be certain that the brugs in circulation have positive qualities...
I can understand wanting named one's to have a certain quality ............ but unless you promised to do otherwise, I'd think you could keep it for yourself. But I wonder if it would be proper to give cuttings of an unnamed Brug.
I guess it may depend on the hybridizer ...... I can see where this may not be exactly enforceable, but I wonder what the proper agreed upon edicate is.
The seeds came from the BGI Seed Bank, and I have written to them to find out the correct protocol. I'll post here once I have a response.
TC: Here is the response I received from BGI:
"well, I know it's said not to share unnamed brugs. If the hybridizer doesn't think it's worth naming, it usually is best to cull. As for the 2 year 'rule', it's not a rule. It is best to have a couple of seasons on it and it's good if you know how it will act in different climates."
Hope this answers our questions :)
Thanks Gretchen.
I do have a couple of plants from seeds some of the members here sent me, so it's good to know. Not that any are going to bloom this year ............. I got my Brug addiction a little late for that.
I wonder what the rule is with regard to purchased plants, from a nursery, that do not have names - I have one bloom today that had 'white' written on it's name tag. The buds were fat and very green. The blossom is huge and pink!! I couldn't believe it. I've had several other pinks bloom, with names, and none were any prettier, except, thus far, this one has no fragrance...Gretchen, I never knew I would love a pink/yellow mix, but I do, yours is lovely!!!!!!
Thanks Sherry. Its an odd bloom. Today I can't see the pink (its all yellow on the outside), but maybe it'll present itself tonight.
I think if you buy them, they're yours to do with what you want. I think you probably would want to research it to make sure its not already a named hybrid...
Sherry, I would love to see a picture of your new pink!
Gretchen:
Please let it bloom a few more times, heat, cold, etc canl make a difference. It is a pretty one so far, it may get better and better. Sure hope so. I like it.
Gloria
Thank you Gloria. I plan to just let it do its thing for as long as its willing... Its planted in the ground, so hopefully we'll get another round of blooms this season. It has about 6 buds on it, and it seems to me that many times the first bloom on a plant is not as colorful as later blooms. We'll see :) Gretchen
Gretchen, goodness me, you are such a sweetie!!! I have quite a few buds and I did the best I could in the thunderstorm, with my digital, so here goes, this is 'white, now, pink', no name, and the brug that I originally called my 'rescue' brug, I bought if from the side of the road.....
Gretchen, this is a another photo of 'white, now, pink' closed because of the thunderstorm. This is a very pretty large bloom and there are others...
Gretchen, this is Butterfly, and oh, so lovely and smells like heaven and only put in the ground yesterday!! What a trooper, ya know??!! It wasn't all that hot today, 90, but so humid, you could see it...
Sherry: They are gorgeous! I think your white, now pink may be Insignis Pink, but I'm no expert. I want a Butterfly! She's just lovely!!! Thanks so much for the pictures!!!
TC and anyone else who might be interested, the following quote is from the person that hybridized the seeds of this particular (and many other(s)) brug:
"Each year that I grow seedlings I learn a little more.
One thing I've noticed is that colors can change on seedlings. A seedling bloom that was pure white throughout the first year can turn out peach, cream or some other color the second year. It has happened to me several times with seedlings.
This also goes for yellows. They could possibly be another color the second year.
So far the seedlings that started out pink from the beginning have stayed pink.
JMHO that it's best to keep a seedling through two summers to see if the color stays true and see how it holds up to the weather.
I have seen so many new growers lately asking on different sites for a name for an unknown Brug or seedling that they have received that I think it's best to cull any seedlings that are not worthy of being named. I'm afraid if the culls are shared there will be a world of confusion with so many lookalikes and the good, named seedlings will be lost in the similar culled ones. The careful crosses that the hybridizers do to get a better line of Brugs would soon be mixed with ones that have less than perfect traits.
I have seen at least two yellow Brugs in the last week that were aquired without a name or history have Dr Suess tacked on to them because they "look" like Dr Suess. This should not be done, they should stay unnamed unless the history is known but unfortunately they are being misnamed so a "true" DrSuess will soon be gone forever.
I agree with tiG that if seeds are sold for a profit the buyer should be able to name and have full rights to the seedlings since they purchased the seeds. It's nice to ackknowledge the hybridizer if known. JMHO"
I think this addresses and answers our questions :) Gretchen
Thanks, oh so much Gretchen!!!!!! I do hope that my rescue brug might be famous, in that it might have a real name. I hate it for 'white, now pink', I planted it 'outta the way' because I assumed, with 'no name', and, being white, that I'd be the only one that would like it - bless it's heart, now it turns up big and bold and a beauty. Only thing it lacks, thus far, is a perfume smell. Do you suppose it was culled because of lack of fragrance???
Gosh Sherry, I guess...but maybe it wasn't culled at all, just lost its name tag along the way...I'm sure you asked the nursery where you bought it. Guess as stated above, it'll just have to remain a no-name unless you can positively ID it. But that's okay as long as YOU enjoy it! Personally, I still think its just loveley :)
Yes, I love it too Gretchen, regardless of 'who' it is, and, yes, I asked the nursery guy, as I have done since he's been here, but, amazingly, since he has a most successful nursery business, he knows little about the plants he sells, just that they come from Florida. This particular brug was bought on the side of the road and that guy knew even less than my nursery guy and, so far, 'white, now pink' is as pretty as any of the named ones and such a surprise, I could not believe my eyes when it opened pink, but I will say that the buds were greener/fatter than all my others. The guy had three colors, white, yellow, peach, zero pink. I love surprises and this brug will be with me forever!!!