I was reading this and think it is a great thread. I am bumping it up for others to read, or anyone who wants to read it again.
Home Recipes for Brugs/Dats
thank you so much for the bump 2pugdogs
I have never seen this one, thank you so much
and thank you to everyone who contributed to it
this is an awesome thread now have lots to do !!!!
God Bless all of you wonderful people
Barb
has anyone ever tried coffee for slugs and snails? we used it this summer and it really seemed to help. 1 strong cup (I used more) to a 5 gallon sprayer. Sprayed it about dusk once a week for about a month. The article I read said the caffine was what killed them. (something to think about)
That sounds like an interesting idea. I have them in my GH right now. Thanks, Ruthm.
I used to keep my coffee grinds and put them around my acid loving plants (azaleas, camillias etc). I say 'used to' because I have recently switched from coffee to green tea. I keep those bags too, but so far have not added them to the garden.
One of my friends stops by Starbucks and they give her buckets full of grinds.
Those slugs and snails were so used to dragging along.
You put them on speed and gave them little heart attacks
LOL
Tooooo funny!! They deserve it!!!
Every week or so. I have a new batch of slugs on several big pots in the GH; I use a bottle of beer in two cereal bowls at dusk, and they all drown.
Every month I put saved coffee grounds around acid loving plants -- camellias, daphne, hydrangeas, rhodies - that is all I have been feeding them.
In the GH I have had aphids, and am following this thread's advice to spray with 1/2 alcohol and 1/2 water; I then rinse the leaves off after a few minutes
with water spray.
Thanks Kin! :)
Julie
Somehow these really good thread sometimes get lost just when we need it :)
I am using Gretchen Kaufmann's organic recipe except that instead of ag molassas, I am using "Save a Tree" that has it in it. This last batch I made I even added fish emulsion. Not doing that again while the plants are indoors - STINKY!!!
This is an excellent thread, indeed. Yes, these recipes are keepers.
Thanks to the original posters, and to you Kin Man for bumping it up!
Jackie
Ewwwwwww Karrie, I bet it did stink indoors, I put it on mine outdoors and can still smell a wiff of it sometimes lol yucky :) Where did you get your Save A Tree?
Julie
Salt Peder is sold in Grocery stores as "Morton's Tender Quick". Made by the Morton salt folks. FYI
Pure saltpeter
http://www.gregwatson.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Nitrate
Mortons Tender quick? Does anyone know what salt peter is also used for? I'll let you guess.
I tried to order a small bottle from my pharmacy when I read this thread to use it in plant fertilizer. It was 11.00 for a small bottle. Because of the above answer I whispered asking if they had it. She ordered it and it never came. I also ask the pharmicist who I knew if it was really used for the answer to the question.
I'll give you a hint: it was given to men in prison.
Is that a powder the sell or a block to time release they sell in one lb?
Blessings,
Sandy
Well, it was supposedly put in the iced tea and mashed potatoes at co-ed camps to keep us from romantic urges when we were teenagers.
I have some because I make homemade summersausage and it is a preservative in my recipe.
Scooterbugs is, I believe, cheaper than what I paid several years ago, and not all grocery stores carry it. With the price of gas, I'd order from her source.
Sidney
That is the answer. It was given to men in prison to keep them from romantic urges.
Doesn't it sound weird to put in food?
Sandy
What a terrific collection of topics!!! I would print it out but I only have 2 spare black cartridges!! LOL
What is the difference between Ag. Molassas and what I have in my cupboard? Less refined? Since I don't use the molassas for anything else, couldn't I use it in the "cocktail"...
You can use it Carol . Any sugar is a good soil builder cause it keep the little soil bourne critters happy.
SP is Correctly called Potassium Nitrate
Sodium Nitrate and sodium nitrite are what is used in all commercial preserved meats , sausages, lunchmeat, hot dogs, bacon .... etc.
Closely related but I don't know if its the same ('-'?).
BTW, You would be surprised what you can find for cheap at aquarium supply stores, even antibiotics that need a RX for human use. It's labled for fish so can be bought over the counter.
We get SP to spray on the mangos when they bloom to kill the anthracnose. It doesn't really kill it, but often you get one more fruit!!!
If any.
Thanks Scoots
That is true about the penicillin. I have personally used it before. But please be careful as using too frequently could cause you to become allergic to it.
or worse yet, immune to it -
Once again I bow to Scooterbugs expert advise. I checked my Tender Ouick sack, and I would definately NOT use it in my garden. It has only a small amount of Sodium Nitrate and as usual I should have kept my mouth shut. At least I got scoot to give us that great source. I hope I didn't have ya'll buying this, or worse putting it in your garden. (If you did & want my summersausage recipe, e-mail me.)
Sidney
Sidney, you are too funny. LOL!
Scoot, the shipping is much more than the product.. LOL
Ada , No matter that you ship , a pound still weighs a pound .
Another way to look at this shipping cost dilemma is to realize no matter where you find what you are looking for ,
be it across the country or locally............. someone always pays the freight.
If you find your product locally , the store owner will pass his S&H expense on to the customer.
Big problem is most specialty stores like a Tropical Fish store (for example) ......... R E A L L Y jack up the prices , sometimes 2 or 3 times.
To me , driving factors into the price now , due to the price of fuel nowadays.
So diligent shopping could save money in the long run.
Hey sugar , that stuff wont hurt the garden , maybe ya can grow a sausage tree ......... lol wouldn't that be sumpin'?
If I plant it with oregano it might be Italian sausage, No?
Okay, everyone whose name starts with an S needs to stop it or I'll never get back to the yard. I don't know which of you is the funniest, LOL, what a treat, thanks!!! We've been needing a girl comedy team and U 2 S girls R it!!
The "Save a Tree" is manufactured by TerraLife, in Nampa, Idaho (not to far from where Ponditis lives). I bought it here locally at NW Seed & Pet.
Here is the link to their site:
http://www.save-a-tree.com/index.htm
Or Jalapenas and we'd have hot sausage. We I was growing up in Pa I loved that stuff.
Can't find it here.
Now I am hungry.
Sugar, Don't ever keep your mouth shut. I like to hear what you have to say.
Blessings,
Sandy
I can relate to that.
Hi, I started reading this thread from the beginning of it 2-3 days ago. I think I'll congratulate myself for making it to the end LOL. It's been a very interesting read.
I am surprised that there are so many people trying to find molasses. It's not hard to find at all here and I even live in a very small town. BTW I asked someone what the difference is between molasses for people and agricultural molasses. They told me the only difference is molasses for people cost more, because of all the regulations they have to follow. Ag molasses is processed in a less controlled place I guess.
As far as spraying for insects goes, I've used Concern products and had very good results. I have a GH and the only pests I have other than pill bugs are white flies on my hibiscus and begonia. The Concern worked, but I just didn't use it enough. I should have done like somebody else said and just cut them way back, so I would have had fewer leaves to worry about. As it is the white fly damage was so bad I had to cut them back when they came out of the GH anyway.
I did one thing different this spring though. I took out a lot of the soil and put in some acidic rose dirt from Gardenville. And I have to train myself not to water the hibiscus and begonia with the hose. I am going to try adding 1 tsp vinegar per gal water to lower the ph of the water and see if they do better.
I am hoping to get my first Brug this weekend and I am wondering if I can safely put this in the ground. Somebody told me I should be able to put it on the south side of my house. Well the south of my house is very shady, but the south side of the GH is not and I thought that if I put it there it would shade the GH in the summer when it needs shade. I am assuming I would have to cut it down almost to the ground in the fall. I there anybody in my area that has tried this?
Silver: I believe the other difference between table and horticultural molasses, is that table molasses has the sulphur removed. I could've dreamed that, but I'm pretty sure that's the case.
As for cutting back your brugs. Some advice I was given and followed: Don't cut them back until Spring. They are not very attractive in the winter, but I strip the dead leaves off and leave them alone until Spring. Reason being: When you cut them back they tend to hollow out, and water can stand in the hollow stalk causing them to rot in the winter. I cut all mine back in mid-February. Whenever you prune your woody perennials is a good time to do it. Hope this is helpful :) Good luck!!! Gretchen
Gretchen's right about not cutting back.
There are different grades of table molasses , some with and some without sulfur.
You didn't dream that Gretchen. It's correct. :-)
Do any of ya'll read Howard Garrett's Dirt Doctor Newsletter? I thought I read in there that sulfured molasses is not as good as unsulfured molasses. Maybe just because it's been processed, and he prefers the raw stuff.
Thanks for the advice on not cutting down brugs. I guess I could still plant them there. Without leaves atleast they wouldn't shade my GH.
Zone 8b, near Houston, Tx
Jeff, thanks for clear information on helping plants get more oxygen to root system. Never used H202 on plants but do use on skin breaks.
Will read again to be sure of ratio H202 to H2O for 5 gallon sprayer.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you for sharing, all you folks!