I have Ipomoea indica seedlings :-)

I have 2 I. indica seedlings up and stared. These seeds were collected in NZ in 1996.
This means nothing to most of you but I. indcia don't normally seed. I bet no one at Daves has ever gotten seed from their plant? Please prove me wrong so I can trade some seeds for a new srain.

Ps. Except maybe Ron? LOL
Larry

This message was edited Feb 9, 2004 10:17 PM

http://www.kartuz.com/floweringvines.html........scroll down to the photo of this vine......I'll have some seeds, daturapod....Elaine I can trade you another variety of Ipom.

Elaine, are you saying you have seeds now? or will have seeds? or you want seeds? I. indica to my knowlege doesn't self seed. All the information I find is, even hand pollinating to self will not produce seed. Only when you hand pollinate with a different strain will you get seeds.
Most of the I. indica in the US are the same strain taken by cuttings. So even trying to cross "different ones" they may not be really different. This Ipomoea will root in a heart beat. My plant comes back each spring to grow 40 to 60 ft. and have 1000's of blooms. Some bud heads produced 30 blooms per head. A friend of mine crossed a NZ strain to a "wild" Fla. strain to get seeds and that was just a few.

Oh dear......I misread this thread..sorry......

Good job Larry!! I will keep my ears open, I don't believe I am growing that one, so cannot be of any help to you, but wanted to say Yippee for your new seedlings!
Laurrie

Is that Blue Dawn, I have a couple of those plants and some rooting/rooted cuttings.. they have not produced seeds for me either. I just love them, they go up my trees and root where ever they touch soil. Are you looking for rooted cuttings?

oh yes it is
Gourd Please send me a cutting. I need to collect several strains to use in making crosses for seed. I just hope it isn't the same strain but more than willing to try and see.
I will send you 2 of my new releases of Ipomoea purpurea
"Joyce Cobb" and "Vicki Harding"
these are new mutations
and if all goes well I will have to name one after you :-)
I name my "creations" after family and plant friends
Thanks
Larry

Send me your address please.. lol. but, please, do not name any flower "Gourd"..lol... also, my plants are not dormant or anything, they are still alive (not blooming) but they are hanging in there.. will try to post a photo of one of them. Well, this one only shows part of the vine. I have four others in other areas. This was cut down every time we had to move that arbor to put down some curbing, that is why it is not so full. I don't know if you can even see it here. But, will send you all the cuttings you want.. have to go check and see what is already rooted too. Will do that tomorrow during good light. But, if you insist on giving a name to a new one (my name is: Antoinette

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Here is mine from a couple of years ago. I put it in a different place last year and it didn't do nearly as well, so the grape vines will just have to suffer, my I. Blue Dawn is going back on the grape arbor.

Shirley your garden is just wonderful. I hope mine will look as good as yours does in this photo. What a beautiful combo Brugs and MG's .......Thanks for the photo.....
Dee

Thanks Dee. Last year was not a good year, so I'm crossing my fingers for this year. Maybe we will have less heat and more rain. Sure would help.

Oh Shirley, is that your brug alley? Love your photo, Can hardly wait to put my brug cuttings into the ground this coming Spring.. You know, I saw some really purple morning glories with the trilobe here also listed as perennial.. That is probably one of the ones Daturapod is talking about, mine changes colors to a mauve. There is also a Dark Blue one that I have seen, but thought I must be mistaken.. Now I have some more things on my list to get this spring here at HD or Lowes.. they really bring them in. Most are not small though, they are in five gallon pots already or bigger.

Lucky you. I start with seed or have to order plants online. Nothing in big pots. Once my greenhouse is up and running, I can't get away to go to the city to shop. Actually, I don't have a brug alley. I plant them around the outside edge of the veggie garden, plus any other place I can stick them in pots. That was a jungle in the picture I posted. It got so thick I couldn't get through there with the mower.

My Mama plant now 5 years old did fine in the yard last jan in the 11 to 14 deg. F we had for a week. She came up and grew at least 60 ft. along a fence and up an Oak. 100's of blooms every day all summer and the cold finally killed them off Dec 10 2003. none of the ground runners have made it through a winter yet. So not a problem here in N.C. Some bloom heads had 30+ blooms but no seed lol I have planted 6 more around the yard for next year.
Larry

address sent
and thanks

oh ms. gourd I will send you some brugmansia seed also
just dryed them out this week
Larry

Hello Larry ... good to see you posting again.

Shirley .. that is such a gorgeous blue.

Larry,
Thank you. I definitely want to grow more brugs and would appreciate some seeds, this is the first year I try Brug seeds.. Will contact you tomorrow regarding those cuttings.
Antoinette

thanks
I will be very busy with brugmansia once the greenhouse gets finished.
62'L 16'W 12'H
and room for 2 more
so I can do crosses year round soon
Larry

Hi Larry,
Congratulations! How exciting for you. I have this vine too & I never thought to take cuttings from it. I just never associated cuttings with MG's! LOL
I will go out today & take a few.
Donna

Larry, or anyone else growing Ip. Indica = I have a question, i read that this has 2 kinds of leaves, I have noticed on mine, that there are definite heart shaped leaves, but also the 3 lobed leaves. Both on same vine, the lower ones are heart shaped and the newly formed ones are 3 lobed! is this strange or have you all noticed this, because a friend of mine growing it only has the heart shaped leaves.?????

Also read up on it, and it stated that there are "horizontal" vines that are not producers of flowers, have any of you noticed this as well?

Thanks for your input!
Laurrie

Brugie, I wish they were smaller.. it is hard to sneak them into the yard and no-one notice, especially when you are not supposed be buying more flowers, (and you were supposed to be at the grocery store, not at Lowes.).... they are full of flowers too, traffic stoppers for sure. I can hardly wait..lol.

.. Daturapod, they are on their way to you..

Laurrie
please get me a cutting of the heart shaped leaf strain.
I have been looking for that one! ;-)
it's normal to have both kinds of leaves
and "horizontal" vines will climb it you guide them up on something. Every cutting I have made bloomed no matter where it came from. Now I do know some strains are not good bloomers
Larry

Will do Larry, let it warm up here a bit before I try to send it, don't want to freeze it. My plant is nearly 2 feet tall now in my window. and growing very well, just this morning I put some of the vine underground to see if it would just take off from there for you.

I had no idea how beautiful that was until I saw the pic of your fence Brugie. WOW what a beautiful blue! Im going to have to get that for myself. WOW

If anyone would have cuttings later this year for this and would accept sase that would be cool. I dont have much to trade yet.

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Laurrie
I let one vine run on the ground just to see what it would do (last summer). I was still going when frost got it on 10 Dec. From the Mama vine to the tip was 42 ft. at every leaf node there were roots and another vine starting! only 2 exceptions! So you will have all the "vines" you want by fall! LOL none are alive now! All froze.
Larry

This message was edited Feb 15, 2004 1:58 AM

This vine is very beautiful but very invasive and aggressive in warm climates. I spent an entire day pulling out this vine from my yard. In the second year, the vine sends out ropes and ropes of vines to sprawl along the ground, and those vines will send down roots anywhere where there is moist soil. It roots and sprawls and roots and sprawls -- not a well-behaved vine at all. It's true that I will miss those blue flowers which fade to pink. Here it is climbing up the side of my house.

I thought that I could control it, but it just proved to be a high-maintenance vine so out it went!

I think I would be ok up here, if not I have a neighbor I dont particularly care to see anyway.

Daturapod, keep us updated on those seedlings, Im very interested to see how they do since you said they dont seed. I would be doing funny little dances to have that happen to me.

This message was edited Feb 13, 2004 12:33 PM

Larry thanks for the info :)

Clare - beautiful, just beautiful!!!

Oh my, OhioBreezy is right, Clare that is beautiful. I have seen them go up a telephone pole and cluster up there and down some on the wire..

Daturapod,

At the risk of sounding like the verizon guy (can you hear me now)..... did they get there yet, did they get there yet? That commercial always makes me laugh because my cell phone never works from my house.. I have to drive five miles away for it to work..

Thanks, OhioBreezy and Gourd! I can't deny the color is beautiful. I just wish that this vine wasn't so much work!

WOW yes! they got here today Sat. 3:30pm.
they are all planted and under lights. I got my
fingers crossed, that mine and your are not the
same strain. I will keep you posted
many thanks again.
Larry

Hi Larry! In answer to your question, I started my vine from a cutting that a friend gave to me a few years ago. I'm pretty sure that I don't have any more stragglers. This vine is really easy to start from a cutting if you can find someone with an existing vine.

Clare,

I had the same vine last year and just posted on another thread about it being so invasive! I think it is just gorgeous and everyone who sees it just falls in love with it but I have the same problem -- too invasive! I spent hours and hours last summer pulling the runners out of my bed of perennials where the the runners root and take off around my other plants. Is there anything else out there that is as pretty but not so invasive? I have a six foot rod iron fence that is about 40 foot or so long and love to have it covered in vines. I have intermingled clematis which looks nice but they are a little overwhelmed. Here is a picture of the vine before it really took off!
Terrie

Trunnels, thanks for your post. That's a pretty picture! I can relate to your struggles with the Ipomoea indica. I'm all for a good grower, but that was too much to handle!

I'm not sure about which vines would do well in your area, but I just purchased a Thunbergia Battiscombei, which has lovely blue flowers also, but it is hardy to Zone 10 so you would have to bring it inside for the winter. Logee's has it at http://www.logees.com/store/ I am also partial to Passifloras, but most of them will probably be an annual in your area if you get frost, but you could grow them in containers and bring them inside as well. The same is true of Madagascar Jasmine, Stephanotis floribunda. I love wisterias too, which would probably do really well in your area, but they are somewhat high-maintenance also because you have to prune after flowering.

Bignonia capreolata, Crossvine, is hardy Zone 6 and higher, and Logee's has that one too. Here's mine which flowered when fairly small:

Clare,

Thanks so much for the info and the logee link. I have a Passifloras that actually lived through the freezes we have had so far in the Dallas area. I've had a wisteria planted in a big pot and trained over an arbor for about three years. Love it but you're right about pruning. I'll definitely check out the other three you mentioned. Your crossvine is beautiful.
Terrie

Daturapod, dont' forget to post pics of your greenhouse.. I sounds really big. Good luck in all your crosses.. A

Hi Larry-
Just wanted to say congratulations!
Taylor
GW:Taylor_TX
Dave's:Seedpicker_TX

That is cool. :o) I have some i. indica seeds I purchased from overseas. Started them last year, overwintered ... will see if they flower this year ...

But *my* plants have not produced seed.

Ron said at some point in the past ... keep an eye on them ... because while one does not produce seed, its sister might well ...

Congrats!

:o) Judith