I would be interested in all four. What kind of plants are you desiring? Hopefully I'll have something.
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Rothkirch???????? "THUD"
Am I too late . . . I think snow needs some smelling salts . . .
Just wave a Rothkirch bloom under her nose!
lol, brugman, you went too far! so it aint so, those are the ones the puppy ate.........
no, those are the ones that I got already.
oops! I wasn't supposed to tell.
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lol again!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dee has Rothkirch too??????? "THUD" "THUD"
You guys are killing me with this Rothkirch teasing. I'm just too old to keep falling down like this and now my head hurts too.
Which one of the brugs that we do have has Rothkirch in it? Isn't there some way we could pull it out of that brug and then get something like Monika is producing? Does anyone have an order placed at NH for one? I know, grasping here!!
Butterfly, Pink Beauty
brugie, BF, pink beauty, rosabelle are i believe rothkirch X ocre.... i'm thinking back breeding the 2 might get back to something, but i don't know much!
Was thinking that I read someplace that Pink Beauty throws a lot of yellow seedlings. Hope I haven't made a mistake putting Pink Beauty and Butterfly together. Hey, maybe just the "R" will come out and one of us will hit the jackpot!!
lol snow!!!
Somebody go superglue Snow to the chair. Hate to see her hurting like this.
I had an order placed with NH, got everything but Rothkirch, they send me a postcard and said that I wouldn't be getting it because they were having problems with it. Sorry but I tried.
I had an order placed with NH, got everything but Rothkirch, they send me a postcard and said that I wouldn't be getting it because they were having problems with it. Sorry but I tried.
Sorry Snow - I just couldn't help myself, I will behave myself. Will send you some asprin for the pain
Everyone, i am just catching up. if you haven't heard by me in the morning, please email me again.
i can say there is still quite a bit of butterfly, should be able to judge the rest tomorrow. sorry i have been so out of it.
I didn't know Pink Beauty was an offspring. But surely if you cross it to Butterfy and Rosetta you will still get closer to Roth..One might have to do the cross a couple of time it get a Roth though.
So, as for this Rothkirch...Everyone is aware that Rothkirch is in the states already. LBJ and Native Habitat have her. Of course Native Habitat has had her for 2 years at least if memory serves me and LBJ...well who knows. All I know is that Native Habitat is very good with air layering and grafting brugs so I can only conclude that the reason we don't see any of these is that they are hybridizing with her as they can breed with Rothkirch year round as they don't get any freezes.
I got an email from Lee at NH and he said they were afraid they were going to lose their Rothkirch. Haven't written him back to see how it is going.
Brugie,
Thats very sad indeed. Did they cut on it too much or is it infected? Ahh, I was hoping those guys were simply going to release some of the best hybrids we have ever seen in the USA. I was kind of hoping that was the reason they were not giving out any cuttings.
I'm not really sure what happened, but there were having no luck getting cuttings to root and Lee then said what I wrote above. I wrote him back and suggested that they try air layering this one, but didn't hear back from him.
Brugie,
Thats what confuses me, those guys are experts at air layering. Heck, their experts in just about all forms of propagation. I think the only thing they haven't tried is grafting cacti and thats much easier than grafting brugs. Perhaps LBJ will release Rothkirch though as they have had it for a while as well.
Hope someone does.....Sure would be the one to have now.
Why sould LBJ release a Rothkirch, when they haven't released anything else.?? just a little clueless here.
Dee, I believe they were actually going to release Rothkirch last year. They took it off the market though. Probably because it was harder to propagate than some of the others. Of course it could be that they are trying to stockpile enough to meet demands as well. Let us not forget they sell seeds as well so perhaps they will offer seeds from Rothkirch as well in the not to distant future.
Seems LBJ releases brugs that are misnamed, for shame!!
Okay, well lets get back on track. At least we have Butterfly and Rosabelle. As these are Rothkirch children we should still be able to breed these to each other to get our own Rothkirch. Perhaps something even better than Rothkirch. If it takes these companies that have Rothkirch another year to release Rothkirch...well by then we might have a first year bloomer that outdoes Rothkirch and is easier to propagate.
Good question Dee:) LOL
and good answer Eric!!!! why cry over 'spilt milk' we'll just make our own.
Go Brugman GO!!
I've got Butterfly blooming now. Anyone have any Rosabelle pollen they would share?
I agree with Brugman. If LBJ and NH are busy making crosses then I see no difference in several individuals doing exactly the same thing. The more individuals making crosses of the daughter plants then the higher the probability of obtaining a Rothkirch form. I'm going to try for sure. We can also work together by sharing the seeds with others as is done now.
You're right Joydie . . . as a group we can do this!!
Let's go for it!!!
LBJ got rid of Rothkirch because it harbors and develops too many viral factors. **SIGH**
So it seems that our best bet is to indeed breed the siblings created from Rothkirch. By the way...buds are on many of the cuttings I gave Arlene so its just a matter of letting them bloom. Not waiting for them to get a certain size. Personally, a nice darker pink, longer tendriled, heavier blooming, earlier blooming aurea type that is less virus prone would be prefered.