Identify 2 spiders

Can you help ID these guys? The darker one is always in this Web but the other one hasn't been seen before. Both on the same Web and seem not to mind each other. The darker one in the first 2 just caught a fly.

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Minot, ND

Geographic location?

Northern Oregon

Minot, ND

Did the web that the darker spider was on have a hole or funnel-like retreat at one end? If so, it likely is one of the funnel weavers in the family Agelenidae. The other spider is a cellar spider in the family Pholcidae; likely Pholcus phalangioides, known as the longbodied cellar spider - http://www.spiders.us/species/pholcus-phalangioides/

It goes into an opening in a windowsil. I can see a funnel shape. Interesting that they have been on the same Web for a while now. They seem to coexist on it. Thanks for the id!

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