I need plant identification please

Rawdon, QC(Zone 4b)

I'm not sure if this is an aloe or haworthia but I can't find the name?
The leaves are not placed like a rosette but more in a (plus) + shape.
Please help!

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Lake Stevens, WA(Zone 8a)

Wollemi-
Try putting this question in the Plant Identification Forum-lots of folds over there to help.

Liberty Hill, TX(Zone 8a)

Here is a link to the Id forum http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/plantid/all/. There are many folks (not folds) lol that can help you.

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