Ooh, a V. carlesii gets my vote! Such a wonderful scent. Are you considering the dwarf variety? Mine got to about 10 feet after 3 years and had to be pruned back. It looks like 'Compactum' and 'Spice Ball' stays nice and compact instead of big and sprawl-y like mine.
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thanks, SSG. I'm not quite sure! I'm wondering what the other parent plant of x burkwoodii is, and whether it's a native. I think I'd prefer the native! This would be in the spot where my dying cherry is. Apparently V. carlesii is a nonnative variety, although it sounds very fragrant...
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okay, what about Sunday July 20th for our field trip to Betty's??
I'm good with Sun, Jul 20th.
I also have viburnum carlessii - it is one of the most wonderfully fragrant things in my garden. The blooms don't last very long, but oh so sweet while they do.
This is my first year for some of my Viburnums and I'm hoping I get a nice fruit display from my Viburnum Nudum Brandywine & Winterthur. I think my Viburnum Dilatatum Michael Dodge bloomed to early for my Erie to pollinate it. The Nudum's flowers are stinky but very pretty. I don't have a pollinator for my V. plicatum Summer Snowflake but I like it that way. It blooms all summer. We also have two Viburnum x rhytidophylloides 'Alleghany'. I'm still new to the Viburnum world and VV has helped me a lot for sure.
July 20th works for me too.
CatMint, V. burkwoodii's other parent is V. utile, originally from China.
Viburnum dilatatum is the only one I've heard of that is a problem because it invades natural areas, however. I don't know why that species would be more invasive than others - maybe because it's more self-fertile?
I have V. burkwoodii, and I much prefer the flowers of V. carlesii.
The Carlesii flowers sound heavenly!
I have 2 cultivars of Viburnum plicatum f. tomentosum (Doublefile Viburnum): Mariesii and Shasta. Shasta was an impulse buy from Betty's Azalea Ranch, although I had been considering getting a pollinator for Mariesii for some time. I don't know about Shasta, but Mariesii flowers don't have a scent.
I also have a Viburnum x pragense (Leatherleaf Viburnum) that is surviving but not thriving in dry shade.
CatMint, why not get another native Serviceberry cultivar instead of another Viburnum?
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SSG, I agree that V. carlesii sounds wonderful with the fragrant flowers! But I didn't realize that the Viburnum x burkwoodii wasn't native. :-( When I got it last year, the people at the nursery suggested it to me as a native alternative to whatever I was asking about. I guess they didn't realize. :-(
Muddy, I'm trying to decide now between either another serviceberry or another spicebush. I like that both of them are larval host plants for butterflies.
Catmint, are you still considering getting a redbud?
thanks, SSG--I'm still kind of weighing my options. I like the idea of another weeping tree, but am trying to think about what would be most likely to attract butterflies as larval hosts. I know the redbud is great for bees, but it doesn't have any fruit for the birds, and I'm not sure about butterfly hosting. Given that my first tree selections for my yard (the Japanese maples and also the weeping cherry) were based simply on being pretty with no thought to the pollinators or other wildlife, maybe I'm being overly-obsessive with this one, trying to get 'the perfect tree' in that regard...
Why don't we plan for July 20th for our field trip to Betty's, then? http://www.bettysazalearanch.com/ Looks like it's a day that works for everyone? So far we have:
Catmint
Muddy
Aspenhill
Seq?
Terp
Yehudith
SSG, depending on schedule
Anyone else like to join us??
Looks like they're open 9-6 on Sundays. Any schedule constraints for that Sunday, July 20th? Would planning to meet in the early afternoon work for everyone?
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Maybe you could copy/paste that post into the top of its own thread to make it easier for others to find? I'll add it to the events thread also. :-)
Thanks Critter! Good idea.
Continuing our discussion of the field trip to Betty's here:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1367099/
I think plants must be cheaper south of here (NJ).
I've been looking for a red crepe mrytle plant and couldn't find one anywhere. My friend saw one when she was down in VA last month so she bought it for me. It was $25. Then just this week, my daughter in PA saw one and bought it for me too. It's just a tiny bit bigger, and was $60 !!.
I still want it though. I'll plant them both. I hope they do ok. It says full sun and I don't have ANYPLACE in my yard that gets full sun, but it will get morning sun.
Good luck, afternoon sun would have been better. Let us know how it does, it would be interesting to see.
Coleuslover123, if they are a bit sheltered from winters blast they should do well. We have 2 one in a container no less, that is closer to the south side of the house, it fared better than the direct planted exposed location. I pruned the exposed one, but not till June, just to see what would come back. Our PB bush came back late, but so did a lot of root sprouts. So many I'm wondering if it may not be invasive.
Ric my PB Shrub also is making a slightly worrisome number of sprouts.
What's a PB Shrub?
ColeusLover, I think it depends on in part on what's shading your Crape Myrtles. I have 2 growing in a morning sun area and, in addition, they were shaded by taller trees and shrubs when they were young. They responded by growing very quickly in an effort to get more sun, and soon became as tall or taller than the trees and shrubs around them.
PB==Peanut Butter Shrub. G.
Thanks, Gita. I've never heard of those before.
Muddy--
Contact sally--she always has some to share. She can give you more details...
G.
hey, Seq--looks like us plant addicts have chatted our way up to 300+ posts in no time at all! :-)
I killed off my second PB shrub (from SallyG) -- I think they want more water than I give...
could be, Happy, I've had mine on the moister side o f the yard and its growing fast. Muddy we got started on the PB shrub aka Clerodendron, by Chantell. It suckers pretty easily,in my garden at least, there will always be enough to share in this crowd, now.
My PB shrub from Sally did not come back this year. :-( I got it at the fall swap and it may not have had time to get really established before a particularly cold winter.
No fear and no tears! Any new suckers, I'll pot more...
aww, thanks, Sally! :-)
Well, to assuage my sorrow over my 'Stargazer' blooms snapping off, I *needed* to go to the nursery to pick out a new lily. I got L. Oriental 'Sunny After Eight'.
Also noticed some other blooms while out picking a spot for my new lily.
1) Brand new Lily 'Sunny After Eight'
2) Phlox 'David' is just beginning to bloom!
3) 'Endless Summer' Hydrangea--1st bloom fully open now
4) My caladium garden is unfurling--yay!
5) Just bloomed from the wildflower mix--looks like red coreopsis!
Nice, CatMint!
I'll think about the PB shrub, thanks! Right now, I hear Obedient Plants calling my name. Greenthumb's photo reminded me how much I like them, and I need plants that are blooming now : - )
Thanks Cat! I let this one go a little long.
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Those dratted, danged, (*(%& four footed pain in the rump mobile set of incissors!!!!!! I can't believe it! Got past the deer and the lilies thought I was home free now the bunnies have hit the cosmos and the dahlias! Nothing else, just them. I'm going to net the lot when I get home and spray like mad with the liquid fence. The milorganite is working on the other beds but for some reason its not keeping the rabbits off.
I finally got four of the raised beds going. Planted up beans, zucchini, cucumbers and harvested onions from last year and some kale that also survived the frost along with some potatoes. Almost forgot, okra and eggplant babies went in as well. Yes, I was dead last night but it feels so good when I look out the window and see my nice lovely beds. Three more to go. Yes I'm late and will only get a few but a ll that green will look so lovely.
I have a PB Shrub in a pot that I got from Chantell at the Spring Swap. It was to be a replacement for the one that hadn't emerged yet. Then to my pleasant surprise it finally started to leaf out.
it's amazing how "dead" plants are suddenly leafing out this year. I've got a couple of agastache that I didn't know had survived the winter until last week.
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