Blooms, almost November, or other garden pretties?

I understand. Purple Dome is a cultivar of New England aster -- http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFinderDetails.aspx?kempercode=b550 -- I was just guessing that it was that cultivar.

AHH--Happy--It does say "New England"--but in LATIN....

Symphyotrichum "novae-angliae" 'Purple Dome' .

Sorry if I misunderstood.....

The blooms shown on the site look prettier---kind of double?
Of course--that is a photo for their website. Surely, they would post
the prettiest bloom.

Gita

I will probably have an extra Purple Dome if you would like one. I got some for my awful front hill, but the deer like it and the purple clashes with the predominantly yellow/red colors (unplanned for, but that seems to predominate). I'm going to put them in the back yard -- no deer, but not much sun either, so they won't thrive.

Thanks--but no thanks, happy...I really do not have a space to put anything new in.

We had frost last night! For real! I am sure many of us did in this neck of the woods.

I went out last night and took a last shot of my Dr. Seuss in bloom.
Then took one this morning--leaves all droopy...Persian Shields nipped too.

Next decent day I am off--i will start hacking away at the Dr. Sad--but it has to go.

Now--I need to think of digging up the cannas soon! Mamma Mia!!!!
That will be killer work.....

Talk about "killer work"--I have to be at work tomorrow and Wed. at 6AM.
I am expected to water whatever needs watering....it will be killer cold out there..
dealing with a wet hose yet...

Gita

I waited too long to hack at my Dr. Seuss, Gita. I found only 3 fairly good looking pieces when I came home, but I don't know if they're going continue to get softer.

The Brug looks horrible today--the leaves are all shriveled now and turning black.

Can't take a picture right now. My camera is charging....

Time to start chopping it up...the thicker, wooden stems should all be OK
from that one night of light frost. I never use the green growth ends for rooting anyway.

G.

Do you need to cut pieces above the "Y" for them to root and bloom? I think that I took pieces from the wrong part of the plant.

RRR-

As you may know--a Brug will not bloom until it has "Y'd".

That means--the stem, at some point, splits into a "Y" and just continues to
grow and "Y's" from that point on,a ll subsequent growth after the 1st "Y" will also "Y".

When taking cuttings, try to take them from ABOVE the first "Y" because these
cuttings will bloom sooner. Good practice--especially desired if you share cuttings.

You CAN root any piece of a woody stem from anywhere on the plant,
even the main trunk--if you wanted.
Except--now you will have to wait till the cutting grows tall enough to "Y".
Until it does that--you will not see any blooms.
SO--blooming it is a matter of time. Much later if your cutting you rooted is
taken below the FIRST "Y".

In older brugs--the 1st "Y" may be close to the base--kind of part of the main stems.
That is OK--it still counts as a "Y".

And--as I have said before--do not try to root the current year's green growth.
These are soft and I have not had much luck rooting them. The woody ones,
thin or fat--will always root better.
And--also--do not root the cuttings in water. It is much easier and cleaner to
do it right into a 5" -6" pot in fresh Pro Mix. I never had luck with water rooting...

Look at the picture--my poor, NOID, pink Brug. This summer--they had some
kind of leaf issues, and lost a lot of leaves.
However--you can easily see in this Brug the "Y"'s on the 2 stems on the right.
You can see the first "Y"--way down near the base and, higher up, the second
and third "Y's".
This is NOT my best brug. i will not keep this one for next year. It grows straight up.

Hope this helps you. Best! Gita

Your info is just what I remember about cuttings. Unfortunately, I took them in too late and they are all turning to mush. I guess they had already started to freeze!! How sad.

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Typ, the yellow knockout rose I got from you is blooming! It's a gorgeous buttery yellow color.

The second pic is Acer shirasawanum 'Palmatifolium.' The fall foliage is much prettier from my kitchen window.

The last one is a NOID Japanese maple seedling I got from a local gardener. It has a funny habit that I hope it'll grow into. The orange is a nice contrast to the the yellow fall foliage of the other JM and the dark purple of Ruth's Red.

That is a gorgeous Acer, what is the mature height?

Please visit "RIC'S ROAD TO RECOVERY THREAD"

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1340720/

Paul, it had two different labels -- Acer shirasawanum 'Palmatifolium' and 'Aureum,' but I'm pretty sure it's the former.

It's supposed to be 10 feet tall in 10 years and 20 feet at maturity, but it seems to be a pretty slow grower. I can't wait for it to get some height. I know tree don't do much the first year they're in the ground, but I'm tired of everything looking like a dwarf!

Watch what you wish for. The problem with so many shrubs and trees is they stay tiny for way too long, and then suddenly they start to grow. But they speed right through the height you wanted them to linger at -- you blink and the moment is gone -- and suddenly they are towering over you!

Sadly, no pic yet :-( but we have a mini-magnolia tree ( there's probably a more correct name ) - light purple/white conical buds which open into wide petals in early spring.

It is producing a few blooms out of season now - first time ever . . . Weirdly wonderful, but does anyone know whether, if after the main blooms come out in March-ish, you can prune back radically, for another bloom-time in Autumn ? I have never done this, but may experiment next year.

Thanks Gita, for the Brug comments. I am trying to grow one from a small cutting. It is rooted and about 14 inches high. Do you think it might flower next spring, or will it be another year ?

Thanks !

Hi Keith!
I assume this is a deciduous Magnolia? loses its leaves? I am almost certain it will NOT rebloom after pruning. In fact, pruning now will cut off the branch tips that are forming buds for next spring. What's happening is those formed buds are getting crazy weather signals and some are opening really early.
I have a Little Gem evergreen magnolia- it blooms big in spring and intermittently into summer.

I'll let Gita handle the Brug question- she does that so well!

Thanks, Sally--You know a lot by mow too--on Brugs...

Keith--
Is your cutting leafing out yet?
I ask--because 14" is a bit long for a cutting..Remember--the new growth will be
mostly from the top of the cutting. I would cut the cutting back to about 2" -3"
above the soil level and let it grow from there. It will have a sturdier base.
Then--you can root the top you cut off and have another brug. What kind is yours?

The first time I bought a Maya brug--it was in a 4" pot and you could not
even see the cutting it grew from. It was below soil level...

Your Brug may well bloom next year--IF it produces a "Y". It should--at some point.

1--This should give you incentive :o)-- March, 2009
I no longer have this brug. It was a Rose Souvelons.

2--A very young Maya blooming already. Sept. 2009

Just remember--some Brugs bloom with gusto--some are not so "energetic"


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Kieth, Sallyg et al,

Out and about here I am seeing blooming magnolias, a purple leafed plum (one of ten in a parking lot area) and a number of forsythia. So, some get triggered and some not.

I know forsythia make it through getting fooled quite well, not sure how plum and magnolia do or how quickly they can return to 'dormant'.

Maybe they lost leaves early because of high heat/droughty season and are just responding with a flush of second growth with return of some moisture.

Sally

Thanks, it is a Japanese magnolia and keeps its leaves during the winter. It blooms early and often loses its best flowers to late-winter frosts in March :-(

I do prune branches most years, otherwise they head skywards with absolute abandon :-)

Thanks again
Keith
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Gita

This is a yellow trumpet brug. I was wrong about the 14 inches - dohh ! . . . Have done the cut-back to 2 inches above soil and now have about 7 inch shoot from main cut stem, plus a second small sprout of 1 inch from stem also.

Your pic are lovely, what a huge bloom from such a small plant, must be all the hot air blowing over from DC :-) Juuust kidding . . .

Thanks for the good counsel


Coleup

Interesting re forsythia. I am planning to root a few forsythia cuttings this winter, though maybe I should wait until spring warmth . . .

Back to leaf-blowing today !


Keith

Keith,
I'm sure others will chime in. but
I find forsythia one of the easiest bushes to propagate.especially in the spring. Many times the branches I cut for early spring floral arrangements will grow roots right in the vase and 'voila' a new start to plant out! I like to bend over a branch or two to the ground and weigh it down with a brick or rock and it will be a mini plant to separate from mother by fall.

Very interesting, coleup! I figured mine was 'Palmatifolium' due to the leaf shape.

The Ruth's Red is a very dark red, almost purple. I'll take a pic and post!

Took a few photos today of the very last blooms I have. Wondering if they'll still be here tomorrow after the temperature dips below 30?

Gita, those are your white mums from the swap! :-)

Lovely Catmint! Nice variety of fall blooms.

I was surprised to see so much fall color on my forsythia bushes.

And look at the color on this dissiduous azalea 'Pink and Sweet'

Also didn't know Red Bud 'Forest Pansy' purpled up in the Fall!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0881926450

Love the deciduous azaleas!!! There are small leaf rhododendrons that put on a beautiful fall display as well. Pink and sweet is a cross of natives if I recall, I will look it up later.

Above is a great book on dec azaleas or natives I intend on buying soon.

thanks, Coleup. Love your fall colors!

I've been totally mesmerized by the colors this fall!

Here is the noid green leaf JM that a deer polished his antlers on. Hope it makes it, Link to pics of damage.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1340075/
How leaves should look about now, The one's above are dry and crispy.
the Emperor JM such red and for so long (3)(4)
#5 a possible bloodgood

Purty! Love the red color on that maple!! It has indeed been a wonderful year for foliage.

My fothergilla and dogwood are putting out some nice color.

After I cut things back yesterday, I made a small vase of some of my last blooms.

Not much left out there now! Aster 'Moench', dianthus, petunias, lobelia, alyssum still blooming. Salvia, veronica, phlox and others all cut back.

Fall/winter berries are plumping up and turning red on the skimmia and the holly. My Mahonia 'Soft Caress' is blooming.

My fall crocus sprouts are getting taller! yay!

very pretty, all

thanks, Sally!

I love your last blooms vase!

aww, thanks, Coleup! I knew I had to cut some things back this weekend because of my schedule, and I felt so bad clipping back some plants that still had blooms, so my daughter and I decided to do the vase. She was the one who arranged them! :-)

Cat--

how do you think i felt cutting all the stems, laden with buds and bloom, off
on MY Dr. Seuss brug?
Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and hack away.

Plants can have eternal life---always re-growing from roots or cuttings taken.
Nothing lives or dies forever--in the plant world. There is usually another life to have.

Waxing Poetic here.....Gita

1--Dr. S.nipped by frost
2--Frost damaged leaves dying now...
3--First cut-back--all the green tips with all the buds and blooms on them--GONE!
4--Cuttings (about 50 or more) now taken--and she is ready to be transported
to Cylburn.
5--Box-full of cuttings---also taken to Cylburn. Hope he has time to root them all.

Wow gita! Great work, what a day.

Nicely done.

Gita, it is so beautiful in full bloom! Well done--great work!!

My daughter said, "Mom, we need to get one of those!" :-)

Cat--and you still can!!! I have several rooting....Also some of the "Maya'.
One of the newly cut stem-sections is not even rooted yet.
I can send that to you.

I keep thinking how strange it will be starting a new Dr. Seuss with a 5" cutting....
How many years till the glory I had now???? Guessing--about four???

G.

thanks so much, Gita--we'd love one of your cuttings! :-) 4 years--wow, that must have been hard to cut it back like that.

Gita, I have really enjoyed my Dr Seuss this year. It bloomed nicely and was a reasonable three foot or so all around. I'm sure this was one of your cuttings this spring.

Hmmm--Sally---are you sure I gave you a cutting this spring?
I think I gave you one last year...but would have to look back
in my "records"....
Yours look a bit big to be just from this spring.....

Cat--Will mail you one each--Dr. Seuss and Maya.
Will include the Primer I wrote too.

Will let you know when....on D-mail. Pls. send me your address--
G.