Two spiders from a meadow

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trrr Elva, Estonia Jun 05, 2013

I would very much like to know who they are:

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trrr Elva, Estonia Jun 05, 2013

Oh, and is the dark stuff under the first one its babies? :P

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themoonhowl Prairieville, LA(Zone 9a) Jun 06, 2013

The first one might possibly be Araneus diadermatus, the European garden spider. Haven't had much luck with the second one.

http://www.uniprot.org/taxonomy/45920

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Flapdoodle Minot, ND Jun 07, 2013

Where exactly were these images taken? The first one does not appear to be an Araneus of any kind, let alone A. diadematus...

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trrr Elva, Estonia Jun 07, 2013

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Where exactly were these images taken? The first one does not appear to be an Araneus of any kind, let alone A. diadematus...


These were taken on a meadow in southern Estonia.
The first one was quite small, the length of the body perhaps ~5mm. The second one was bigger, with the legs maybe 2-3cm .

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themoonhowl Prairieville, LA(Zone 9a) Jun 07, 2013

There isn't a whole lot of info on the spiders of Estonia. I was trying to match what i could see of the pattern....and Missed. but I did find another hopefully helpful link for searching

http://www.eurospiders.com/spider_family_gallery.php

My apologies Trrr

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trrr Elva, Estonia Jun 07, 2013

Sorry, I hoped that these would be more common but I guess I'll have to look more. :D Thanks for the link!

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Flapdoodle Minot, ND Jun 07, 2013

I'm still pondering the one on the left; the configuration of its cephalothorax reminds me of a crab spider, but I do not know of any European species in that family that resemble it otherwise. I'm going to take a guess that the green one might be a male Micrommata virescens, a spider in the family Sparassidae - see http://www.flickr.com/photos/roger_key/2671113816/lightbox/ for an example. Males of this species can be quite variable in appearance.

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trrr Elva, Estonia Jun 08, 2013

Oh, thank you very much, I really appreciate it! :) One down, one to go!

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