Anyone else in CenTex having this problem?

Irving, TX(Zone 8a)

sweetmommy
I don't have Chinese Okra on my variety this year. My okra are plants not vines.
Si, a lot fiori di zucchini fritti. Sono cosi buoni, mamma mia !!

Fulshear, TX(Zone 9b)

I've never seen a vining okra before but thought I would try it. I've put it in with my normal okra, so we shall see.
Essi sono la cosa che preferisco in orto!

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Okra will do fine with the roses; it may outgrow and shadow them, maybe 6' hi. Vine okra makes huge leaves, is a type of louffa, and needs 12' minimum growing room to vine. I grew it in Wichita Falls, and loved it. Kinda like eggplant tho, in that the cooked flavor is the one YOU give it while/ before cooking.

Fulshear, TX(Zone 9b)

Thanks Kittriana! How big should they be when I pick them? The fruit won't get as large as my normal loofah, will they?

Sylvania, GA(Zone 8b)

Cool thanks Kittriana.

So something strange is happening again with the heirloom plant. All of a sudden the bottom leaves are looking like they have some kind of disease. I am sure I could search around and find what it is, but I know it isn't blight - too sudden and no spots, just withering up and dying off. I cut all of the dying branches off today and will look at them tomorrow. If more are doing it I am pulling the plant. So far none of the other plants are affected and I want to keep it that way.

I guess heirlooms aren't my thing.

Angel

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

K, ONE bad plant growing sends a distress call to the other plants. They 'beef up' their defenses. Just pick the leaves off. Probe the dirt with your fingers, , check how well the soil is firmed around the plant, and check for for damage to the stem below the soil line...If you THINK you may just have any other issues tbat might spread like a viral one, then pull it.

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Sweetmommy- luffa cylindrica. 100 days, likes hi nitrogen, fruits for eating should be abt 6" to 8" long. If grown too long turn into louffas...

Hope that heirloom pulls thru, but they can be 10x more finicky than the newer var. Some of the adaptations tomatoes have endured have been impressive, i dont care too much for the other types of changes tho.

Sylvania, GA(Zone 8b)

Hi All, well, here it is - I have found the culprit with the heirloom tomato plant. Don't know the name of it but it is a bug of some kind that crept its way into the stem of the plant. This morning I was out spraying the leaves of the tomato plants and it was fine, then literally 2 hour later I came out and it was toppled over as if eaten from the inside out. So I pulled it not wanting to take a chance with the other plants, and I noticed bumps on the stem I had not seen before and all these scaly places that were not visible before either.

Being that it happed so fast, I knew it was infested and didn't take the chance the other plants would be next. I have inspected the other plants and don't see any of the same symptoms but all I can do it pray since I can't use chemicals. If anyone knows what this is, I would love to know.

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Irving, TX(Zone 8a)

GFWaco
Some tomato plants have those bumps, especially on the older parts of their trunk.
I think it is normal. I absolutely had no problem in the past. Some variety do bumps and others don't.
I do remove suckers on my tomato plants and bottom leaves as soon as the tomatoes have been harvested.
In this way I can keep a close eye on what is going on ... also the sun filters through the leaves and I have a better air ventilation and .. most of all: TONS of tomatoes.

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Not the air roots, did it ever perk back up when temp cooled in evening? - I dont recognize anything here.- have you posted on tomato forum at all? ? Include heirloom name...

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Scaly places does hint at scales tho.

Sylvania, GA(Zone 8b)

It still had blossom drop but looked like it might be ok, then bam! The leaves started dying and this happened all in a matter of about 3 days. I was thinking of posting on the Tomato forum for ID. the other plants are producing tomatoes.

Angel

Irving, TX(Zone 8a)

This is so strange.
Did it happen before we has all of that rain on Sunday?
Also, the weather is starting to turn hot ... did you use any fertilize on them?

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Different query, you pulled the plant. Did you look at the roots at all? Did anything come up in the roots? Were they small? Sparse?

Liberty Hill, TX(Zone 8a)

Knotted?

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Knotted not knobby? Strong weak?

Liberty Hill, TX(Zone 8a)

Thinking root knot nematodes. Some hybrids are resistant.

Sylvania, GA(Zone 8b)

drthor: No fertilizer and it just happened since Saturday. Everyday there has been a progression.

I did pull it and having really taken a good look at he roots yet, but they didn't seem bad at a glance. I will look here in a bit and report back.

I went out this morning and the other plants are still producing but the plant closest to the heirloom that bit the dust is starting to have the same brown marks on the base of the stalk. I am looking up more info online in DG to see if I can find it.

Angel

Irving, TX(Zone 8a)

What is your watering schedule?
What variety is that?

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Shes got something in the dirt, hope she finds it before it contaminates everything

Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

The bumps and scaly places on the tomato stalk are root nodes. The stem can be rooted from cuttings. They may have developed as the dying plant was in survival mode.

For the plant to die in that manner makes me agree with Kittriana. There is something in the soil, probably one of the fungal root rots that is common to Texas. http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/archives/parsons/publications/cottonrootrot/cotton.html I have it in this soil and find the plant will die quickly after a good soaking rain or watering.

And, I suspect the reason your heirloom succumbed to this before the others have is the hybrid tomatoes are bred to be resistant to these various fungal problems.

Just my opinion, good luck.

Sylvania, GA(Zone 8b)

Yeah, the Heirloom was Black Krim. I realized after I pulled it that it was trying to root. I also realized after I pulled it and took a good look that it is that particular side of the garden the sprinkler hits.

I didn't realize that it did, but the ground stays moist there in that little corner. No place else, just there and after seeing the sprinklers on yesterday I realized that two of the lawn sprinklers meet right there at that spot. So chances are it stayed too moist. Oh well, live and learn. I have been watching the Romas and Plums and they are all fine. I have pruned the lower leaves so they can produce and they are spitting out blooms and tomatoes like crazy now!

Thanks sooooooo much for everyone helping me here. It is hard moving to a new area and gardening, it brings so many different challenges - but I love it too much to give it up!

Angel

Liberty Hill, TX(Zone 8a)

Ohhhh but BK are so good. Live and learn. It's amazing how such a simple issue can have such a huge effect.

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