Spring Seed Starting 2013 #2

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Paul---man! You must have sowed the whole bag-full of the Poppies!!!!
Now you won't have any for next year.....;o( Unless you collect them from the seed pods.
I remember Marlene saying that she cuts the seed pods off because she does not
want them to seed all over...

i have NO idea how you could begin to separate them and plant them in containers....
Seems almost impossible....

I wonder if you left them to continue growing in a bunch, like they are, until they get a bit
tougher stems, it could be more possible to transplant them?

Mine are measly--and many of the thread-like stems are just folding ...collapsing....

Keep us informed on any progress.... Gita

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

These aphids are driving me nuts on my baby Daturas, now spreading to Tomatoes. I have no choice but to put the infested plants outside now to keep the aphids off the ones that so far do not seem to have any. I dosed them with Bayer Rose Food Plus Killer stuff couple days ago- still more aphids.

Dover, PA(Zone 6b)

Sally, I feel your pain. #*$%#@$ Bugs.

Central, MD(Zone 7a)

So I guess just keep them in the containers until they hit the roof?? And then "prick" them out or try and separate them at the time. Ah I look forward to my first seeds blooming.

I pretty much hrew entire bags in the containers. My thoughts were focused on survival of the fittest and increasing the odds of success. If I put all the seeds down if only a few come up I'll be happy. If they all come up I'll be in deep siht but happy. Live and learn.

I of course would hope to manage not killing a few and bringing them to the swap.

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

Paul, I would let them get another set of leaves and then very gingerly prick out tiny clumps of them and pot those. The toughest in each clump will then have some room and dominate.

I know you've had your battles too Holly, sorry to whine!

Dover, PA(Zone 6b)

Whine all you want so now I won't feel all alone.

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Sally---
That was going to be my suggestion as well---
Do we really think alike???????? Scary thought! ....:o)
G.

annapolis, MD(Zone 7b)

Paul, at one of the nurseries I worked at we used the Brownie Method for transplanting seedlings, especially when they were as thick as your picture and difficult to prick out one by one.

Pretend the sea of seedlings is a pan of Brownies and with a sharp sharp knife slice up the pan into bite sized pieces containing 3-5 seedlings, so small. Transplant each bite sized piece. Discard any small or injured in the process seedlings. cut of all but one or two strongest seedlings.

Central, MD(Zone 7a)

Thanks coleup. I appreciate the advice.

Frederick, MD(Zone 6b)

Similar approach... I'd suggest the same "clump transplanting method" I use for basil seedlings... but don't let them get too big in the next size container... I've heard poppies don't transplant well, but I think as long as you don't let them get huge & rootbound they'll be fine.

annapolis, MD(Zone 7b)

Maybe those poppy bites would be good candidates for peat pots = no transplant shock.

Isn't it too hot for those blue poppies around here? Or are they a new strain?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/23/AR2010032302839.html
Article indicates that at temps 65 and above they begin to fade.

SSgardener to me Bleeding Hearts are Spring flowers and behave like ephemerals, going dormant when temps hit sizzle sometimes as early as end of June. Kinda like blue bells, Mine are all in sun until the trees leaf out. I have some waiting in the wings that you are welcome to should yours suffer any problems in sun until you are able to move it. They don't much like to be moved either. I still have trouble getting that Spring/Summer/Fall sun and sun angle right. Hope you feel better soon.

Dover, PA(Zone 6b)

I like loose seeded plants a little wet to work, best in the A.M. with turgor at it's max. I then just start teasing the soil apart from one end until the seedlings are loose enough to pick up individually and transplant to prepared cells, 6 packs, pots, or flats using a dibble, pencil, or my case my pointy finger. Be sure your new medium is damp enough to press your shape and hold. Do not pack your container. Damp medium will prevent the new arrivals from wilting also. Insert the seedling to the desired depth, anything to the cotyledons is acceptable, with tomatoes up to the 1st true leaves is OK, and use your chosen tool to press enough soil from the side/corner to hold it in place. Water generously to allow the seedling to silt into place and place in a bright not sunny spot. By the next morning the seedlings should look like little soldiers in formation. Any seedling left in the loose seeded clump can be saved by returning it to its container and filling the void with any medium.
Oh I did find a spot for those hard to germinate seeds. The solar floor in the living room, natural bottom heat, the reseeded flats just popped.

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Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

coleup---
Marlene said these seeds were from the Hungarian Poppy.
I looked it up once--but now cannot find it. it is an annual--that much i remember..

Ric--
My favorite picking tool and planting tool for seedlings is a Popsicle Stick....
Available by the box-full in craft stores...narrow or wide...
It is good to make holes--and because it is flat--it works great for firming the soil
around the newly planted seedling. Also--it is good for digging out rooted seedlings
from a seed tray or cell pack.
G.

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

I have new shoots in Purple Coneflower and Campanula americana. Definite unique seedlings! Different from the baby lambsquarters that have invaded some of the pots LOL

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

YOu know all the tips about putting seeds on the TV or fridge or water heater to warm them? Well the TV is skinny, and all the other stuff has gotten so efficient there is no more wasted heat.
I put my pizza stone on the back burner, where oven heat is vented, turned to oven on warm, and then set a bin of pots on the stone. Cukes, squash, marigolds.

Central, MD(Zone 7a)

I just put some annuals outside in WS containers. I guess it was out of boredum.

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

Sure Terp, actually could do very well at this point, though they can be late blooming, depending.

annapolis, MD(Zone 7b)

I follow Darius's blog and she posted a link to a site with color coded charts of veggie seed starting and setting out arranged by air temperature. It is a work in progress but helpful too. Always a guessing game as to when to start or sow, harden off and plant out.

Here is the link
http://cultivatorscorner.com/when-to-start-vegetable-seeds

And to Darius's blog
http://2footalligator.blogspot.com/2013/04/seed-starting-and-germinating.html

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

I have had all my seedling flats outside the two nights on my table, up against the house,
under my Patio roof.
Did cover them up last night....hope they are OK. Haven't looked yet......
I did bring in my very large Datura seedlings and all the tomatoes last night.

Wish i could plant them in a bed already....only going to grow ONE--a Yellow one.....

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Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

Gita as usual your Daturas are ahead of mine size wise. Mine have been out under shelter and already a number of bug holes in the leaves.

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

Sally---it was YOU who blew me away with the size of your Datura at a past Swap.

This year--i do not know why--many of them grew really big. Some of them are still quite small.
Do not know what the difference is??? I started them in mid-March.

Bad seeds? planted too deep?--whatever.
I gave the biggest one away already to a woman at work--it was too big to even fit under my lights...

I am only keeping ONE yellow one. No room for more--with all the Day Lilies coming..and all my Zinnias...
And--My Rudbeckia Hirta seedlings--lots of them too....ALL need sun!
Gita

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

BTW--Sally--
IF you would like to come my way sometime soon--I could take you to Chapel Hills Nursery
to get some bags of Fine Pines. Just $4,99. And--only a couple miles further away--
the MD Flower and Foliage where you could pick up all kinds of annuals and perennials.

Why not???? It is only 1/2hr. drive--28 miles ???? Donner is coming over on 5/2,
after work, which would be around 3:30PM. Unless she has changed her mind....So far--we are "ON"...

Lets have a plant shopping "party"......Let me know... Gita

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

Thanks Gita that might work for me too!

I have seven or eight Daturas yellow, as they got crowded I potted some out but left smaller ones in smaller pots. one was in a tiny pot and is still tiny. Maybe the more pot they have the bigger they get, sooner...hmm.

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

sally---

Just took this picture to show you my smallest two Daturas--among the Giants.
They are OK--just small....I have them all in 4" pots already for quite while now.
I think these two little ones are in 3" pots....

Have you had many requests? I have just one--from Robin--for a yellow one.

GOD! I have so many of the Rudbeckia Hirtas! Almost 5 6-packs fill.
They are SO pretty! Also--I just potted up all of the 4's I dug up at Aina's yesterday.
Have 36 containers of them....

Ask away!!!!! Gita

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Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

That's just bizarre, how much they vary in size.

Baltimore, MD(Zone 7a)

I started some nasturtium seeds I got from someone a few years ago.
So far--nothing has germinated....:o(

It said 7-14 days...must be kept dark. Done all that---now what?
Maybe they were too old?

Tonight is supposed to be 44*. I am daring--gonna leave all my trays of seedlings out again...
covered them up with a sheet. They did Ok last night--same way....

I am a bit nervous......but they are under my patio--next to the house on the table.
Just do not have room anywhere to bring them in.....

Is 44 bad?????? 48 last night--was OK. Maybe i will go bring them in the club room---

Phew--wishy-washy me......Gita

Anne Arundel,, MD(Zone 7b)

I NEVER get nasturtiums to germ. I even soaked them last time, fresh seed,- nothing!

I would only worry on the really sensitive things like coleus, plumeria, caladiums. So none of them have gone out here at all.

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