Has anybody heard from???

Where has MzM gone? Anyone know what happened to her? I used to see her here all the time and lately do not!

Please let me know!
Cheers,
Rebecca

She decided to relocate to another site and is doing fine! I miss her here also. :{

I thought she went on vacation and will be back the 1st....today.

CoCo, she decided not to subscribe. Miss her great pictures.

This message was edited Thursday, Nov 1st 6:32 AM

Oh man! What a bummer! Going to miss her pictures and posts as well. I thought she was just going on vacation.
Shoot. Going to miss that gal.

I got her e-mail address if you guys want it. I talked to her on tuesday, finally tracked her down. She is A OK!
sue

bummer

MzM got her certification for pesticide control and is thriving where she wants to be. She would love to hear from you all.

"eyes"

I was wondering why all her posts was removed. I had no idea why so many left.

Yeah me too notice that and wondering why so many of them left from DG?

Okay, let's stop right there. I have a suggestion for anyone who wonders what happened to someone - if you have a question, I suggest you e-mail Dave and ask him! There are two sides to every story.

I'm not sure what Eyes is getting at with her post above, but as far as I can tell, MzM chose to spend her money to sponsor another site, and didn't wish to pay to subscribe here - end of story. It was her choice to have the posts removed; Dave wouldn't have removed them otherwise.

As far as anyone else leaving, there are two factors at work here, the first is natural attrition. If you go back and read old threads at GardenWeb, here, and other gardening sites, you'll see a pattern of the same folks drifting from one site to another - many of us have followed that same pattern. Some will stick around here longer than others (shoot, some of us are stuck like flies on flypaper!) The second factor at work is the subscription - some folks didn't want to subscribe, and that's certainly their choice. But almost every gardening site with active forums is now asking for donations, going to subscriptions or shutting down. The days of chatting for free are drawing to a close rapidly.

Instead of speculating about those who left, I suggest that we expend the same amount of effort making our newcomers welcome. If you look in the member list, you'll see that there are several people subscribing every day. Among them are bound to be some wonderful new gardening friends we just haven't met yet - let's make them feel comfortable here. 'nuff said?

Thank you, Vols. I could not have said it better myself. Your post is exactly in line with my own thoughts.

Vols.. and Dave, I understand now just miss them.. Thank you tell me about this. RR

I don't keep up with everything that goes on here and I don't gossip about people. I just was schocked to see so many missing posts and didn't understand why that is all. I don't like to bother Dave with silly little questions knowing all the things that he has to do, and I feel like I ask enough questions about how to work my webpage here that he is probably sick of me asking questions but just to nice to say so.
I happen to like it here and just paid for my year membership, so I meant no harm.

Dave if my question offened you then I am sorry,I am not attaching you or your website you have been nothing but
nice to me and I have had some good laughs at some of your pictures and for that I thank you.

I didn't know the people that left that well so I don't presume to know how, or what their reasons were but you can't please everybody so I just chalk it up to one of those things. I come here not to offend or gossip about anyone, just to enjoy gardening with all my new friends.
Kit >^..^<

I don't think anyone meant to offend anyone else! When we form these "cyber " friendships, it's only natural to miss someone when they're gone; for whatever reason. And if honesty prevails, then surely it shouldn't be offensive to anyone if their names are mentioned. I surely hope that when everyone is out visiting other garden sites, as I do, that they are not attacking anyone here. So, far I have seen none of that in my other 2 sites, where I am a Paying Member also.

"eyes"

wind...I believe you that I know u love to hear from everybody and true u miss them when they were not there anymore it happenend who knows someday they might come back to DG if not then will always remmy what they did posted and enjoyed it and nice to see new people join DG! FUN!!!
RR

I have a hard time understanding why people want their old posts removed from the presence of friends. It really puzzled me when I first saw where someone had done it. Yet, the responses are still there. Am I missing something I should know?

I feel the same way. I think of everyone here as friends. I wouldn't leave my friends especially if I was judgeing the Brug contest and helping people match up their subscriptions with people that could help. Now if someone hurts your feelings that's one thing but most of us are adults and should act accordinly. I miss MzM and wish she would reconsider her actions and return. Seems like one of my kids strayed.

Aimee, here's my opinion on the matter - take it for what it's worth. Requests to have your posts removed are the cyber equivalent of "making a dramatic exit", and I have no idea why anyone feels the need to do that, other than to make sure everybody talks about 'em after they're gone. (And I hope ya'll can see the rueful smile on my face as I wrote the last part of that sentence. Sure we miss those who are gone, but let's not give 'em more than their 15 minutes of fame, okay?)

Go Vols
I heartly agree.

Paul

I really didn't want to get into this, but 'eyes', you must have missed the post made at the place you're trying to pull everyone to that gave my full name, not tiG, my *full name* and listed me as a bad trader, and the whole thing was that the person they were talking to was presumed to be me.
I asked for a stamp back at one point in all this mess, to avoid being a hypocrite and taking plants from someone I changed my opinion of. It's a long story, but just because I don't want someone's plants after I sent my stamp does not make me a bad trader. And no one has the right to put my full name and town on any website anywhere, except me.
Let's forget and move on. Am I bitter about what happened to me? yes, but I don't have to deal with those people anymore, so as long as I stay with the people I care about here, I'm fine.

The plot thickens. I am glad I didn't know any of the details, but I hope hurt feelings heal and friends are reconciled. I know this sort of thing must pain Dave and Trish. When I was thinking I would build a site for gardeners who didn't like the atmosphere at another one, I worried about what on earth I would do if my friends began snapping at each other. I never came up with a solution, and it stayed on my mind. Every group has a few who will exploit the others or try to gain for themselves an unequal benefit, or who want all the limelight on them, and I think the only thing we can do is work it out with a touch of class. Sometimes that means taking the high road and letting them prevail. This, too, shall pass. And my mother told me the sun don't shine on one dog's hiney all the time.

tiG come on down to Lagrange and help me in my yard and forget your troubles. Stop and get some gas for the moweron your way. I can feel your anger and I guess that's because I know you. Everyone here knows you as being generous, to the point of embarrassing me when we first started to trade. I would bring you 3 plants and you would bring me 10. The next time I would bring 10 and you would bring 15. I felt bad but was glad to have the plants. You are a wonderful person and I want all of Dave's to know what a sweet wonderful friend you are. Your so sweet I almost like the bulldogs. WHen does Auburn and Georgia play?

LOLOL! I came back in to erase what I said, but I'm not going to. Still finding it hard to get over and believe me, I've prayed a thousand times.
But this will pass, and when Auburn and Ga play, they might both lose!!!!!!!!!! :)
Thank you Jim, for your friendship, and your kind words. I've made mistakes in trading and in promising to send things in the fall. But it was never intentional. Honest.

Excuse me tiG, what are you talking about?? I think you need to visit the other websites and show me just where this alleged offense occurred!!!

"eyes"

I wrote Sharon (you know her) and she removed it. Eyes, I'm not trying to start anything, but when you say offenses haven't taken place, then you don't know all the arrows that have been flung. Now if we could stop all this, it might start the healing.

I'm glad I missed it!!! I thought you were addressing me, and I apologize for that!!
Calm down, it's gonna be okay. As for pulling anyone anywhere, that can't be done. But, if someone wants to visit where a lost member is; that should not upset anyone. I don't think Dave harbors any ill will towards anyone......and ya know what? Sometimes it's nice to take a break.

"eyes"

oh, I'm sorry if you thought I was talking about you. No, I do apologize if I gave anyone that impression. As for whether Dave likes these type posts, I'll leave that up to him.

New Friends And Old Friends:

Make new friends but
keep the old

Those are silver,
these are gold

New - made friendships,
like new wine

Age will mellow and
refine.

Friendships that have
stood the test -

Time and change are
surely best

Brow may wrinkly,hair
grow gray

Friendship never knows
decay.

For mid-old friends,
tried and true

Once more we our youth
renew.

But old friends,alas !
may die,

New friends must their
place supply.

Cherish friendship in
your breast

New is good, but old is
best.

Make new friends but
keep the old

Those are silver, these
are gold.

Unknown:

Children, lets stop the nit pick'n. If you have a question about what someone has done or hasn't done,do it personally and lets keep it out of the garden.
What has happened in the past,is exactly that; the past,so let's leave it there and look towards the future. What has been done,is done; drop it and move on. We have plenty new members that are coming in everyday. That is what we need to be concentrating on; is welcoming the new members not bringing up and worrying about the old. Has there not been enough fighting in the world? Do we really have to bring it into the garden as well?
Anyone wants to know about some of the older members,then check the member list. You will know if they are or aren't still a member. Leave it at that. Why a person decides to leave is of no one's business. There are still many great gardeners here at Dave's, and I have made friends with some of the new members. Give the new members a chance, and get acquainted with them.
Let's move onward and upwards; not backwards and downwards.

I want to tell you all Big Hello and Hope you all have a great this weekend!!! And always enjoy to hear from any of you, keep it up enjoy with all DG's and Friends ;o)
"Don't Worry Be Happy" At DG :)
RedRose

OH MY GOD!!! WHAT HAVE I DONE? I started this thread and only wondered what happened to MzM...I have missed something also! With all that's going on in my life now I miss a few days now and then...WOW! I opened a can of worms!

Dave, I'm sorry and if you want you can remove these postings as I think you should!

I'm so sorry!
Rebecca

IASPKR,Nonsense just good picken,Healthy and Good Fun. With out discussion we are truely lost, Bring on the questions and the suggestions.

Hey - you can't have a good garden without the worms!

Ditto Kathleen''

sorry if I offended anyone, I had to clear up something eyes said.
Maybe with all (or most) of the worms out in the open now, it will make the garden better, just like a compost pile.

Hey we are grown ups and the discussion here about why someone left has done one good thing. I know for a fact that tiG was hurt about the incident about her being a bad trader because she discissed it with me when I visited her. I could actually feel her pain as she talked about it. It brought that out in the open and tiG can put it in the past now.
Co Co thanks for the Friends posting. My favorite aunt that lived next door to us as I was growing up had a plate with that printed on it hanging on the wall. Things like that I think help form our being and make us what we become. Thanks for the memory.

I must say that I was a bit surprised reading some of these posts. I've been out of the DG loop for a few months, so I've missed whatever controvery was going on and can only base my judgment upon what I have seen/known in the past. I don't feel the thread was started to initiate gossip, only general concern for a member who frequently contributed to this site and hadn't posted in a while for whatever reasons that were unknown to me and other members. The motto of this site is "For Gardeners, By Gardeners" and I feel that MzM contributed her fair share.
I don't like the idea of circulating trader "good/bad lists" and the hurt feeling's of Tig - totally uncalled for. Georgiaredclay thinks the world of her and since I respect his opinion I respect her - would have anyway - I've always enjoyed her posts.
Late getting off my soapbox!
Carol

btw, I think Mzm contributed a lot too, and hated to see her pull her posts.

Boy, we're all human, aren't we??? All I know is that I've had nothing but wonderful experiences with everyone here in the Garden and miss it a lot lately because I haven;t been able to post as muchas I would like because of a new business my DH and I started...
but the Garden is a lot like life itself- we meet people we enjoy and then they move out of the "neighborhood" and we miss them or sometimes we don't.... it's still a wonderful nurturing neighborhood... and just like any neighborhood- new people move in... and we make new friends...
so.. the Garden is going through some changes- it's all healthy- and I wouldn't trade my friends here for all the world- Once I find a "neighborhood" I like- I'm staying- even through the changes.... no moving for me!!! And if I ever have a tiff with someone, I hope I'm mature enough to realize it and patch things up..... you all remind me of this, okay????
-JSS

Somehow, that reminds me of what Robert Frost said, "fences make good neighbors". I don't think of fences as necessarily being divisive things; rather, we've all heard of talking "over the back fence", plus fences keep our dog out of the neighbor's yard, which the neighbor appreciates. Does that makes sense?

Totally off-subject, but that's what popped into my head! :o)