Holly that is exciting. Does your winter jasmine get full sun all day? Is it protected? I was thinking of getting one for outside year round but I was afraid I did not have a proper place for it. I have to keep mine in the house or the GH.
Flow, do you have any at your place?
Hi Ju, nice to see you here. JB
DO YOU HAVE SOME SIGNS OF SPRING 2013?
Gita, did you ever find out about your question on the roses? I'd like to jump in on those, too, here at my house.
Pretty tulips!
Barb--
No one has commented so far. I was, especially, hoping "Roses_R_Red" would chime in.
So--We just planted it as bare-root roses get planted. On top of a cone of soil in the hole.
All that moist Peat Moss--we mixed it into the soil in the hole.
What I did not, especially, like was how short the existing roots were cut. Maybe to 4"+ !!
Seems it will be a while that new roots will grow from these stubs.
My neighbor just took one of them. Now i will have to find room for the other one.
Think I will dig up my declining "Golden Gate" one. It had been down to one measly stem for a few years.
The base is old--and a gnarly mess. ALL my Roses are old!!!! But I will never (?) dig up the "Sweet Surrender"
nor the "Proud Land" ones. They are real troopers!
Gita
re Winter Jasmine- I have access to many cuttings, and I think it rooted easily. Just holler.
re rose- GIta, two years ago I bought a Home Depot/Lowes plum tree. Nice big pot, GUess what, All the dirt fell off to reveal all the roots chopped off! I SWORE it would die. I did NOT baby it . And it grew amazingly. So I think your rose has a good chance.
SALLY.....I AM HOLLERING! i WILL BE HAPPY TO PAY YOU FOR IT. DMAIL ME AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT. THANKS jb
Sally -- I'd love some winter jasmine cuttings too -- are they from your yard? Can you bring them to the swap, or should I drive out to you?
Wow you guys! I'm happy to help you out with this.
There's a large bush in our little neighborhood play area. I am off work from college this week and can get some any day. They are skinny branches and can go in a padded envelope. There could be rooted tips, if I remember correctly how this thing spreads, and of course would get those if so.
I'm trying to work on the dangblasted curtains but maybe this afternoon I can go take pics of the bush.
It is a sort of 'thin' and low mounding, spreading form.
Sounds perfect for me -- I understand it covers hills nicely, and I have one in the far back that needs a cover.
I visited the mother (lode) bush this afternoon. The stems grow up to about two feet tall, then they start to branch and the weight bends them over., New bushes form about 2-3 feet away as the tips grow into clusters of stem. The main bush had lots of rooted tips around it. I have a whole bucket -dozens- of rooted tips with one stem coming up. They pulled up easily and were filling in and spilling out of the bed. And plenty more where that came from. These stems are very thin and wiry. I'll look at my supply of boxes or envelopes and see what might work best. Happy you could plant them thickly and make an instant "bush' or two or three. It is a good look for a bank.
Sally, I have lots of nursery type pots and soil if you want to get together and pot up your winter jasmine starts...That way they would grow on for the plant swap or for Happy's hill! LMK
Edited to correct plant starts. Thanks Gita!
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Wintersweet??????????
Judy--you must have meant Winter Jasmine? As that is what Sally is talking about.
Right?
G.
Nice offer Judy but let me first try to just foist, er, mail them off to happy and JB and let them do the potting. I put them in a bucket of water for tonight and planned to just layer them with moist dirt to put on hold.
JBerger, Mine is growing against the south facing back wall of the house in a sunny and rather protected spot. I sure do like it.
Juhur7, They sure are pretty tulips love the purple ones.
I have Crocus popping up every were, the Black PW is really going to town big time. The Hellebores are just beautiful and if I get my but out there and cut back the winter dead I will have some pictures of those for you. The daffs and tulips are coming along but no buds on most of them yet.
Well, here's a sad sign of spring. Squirrels dug up my purple oxalis corms. :( Boo! It's a good thing I'd brought some indoors this winter.
My daffodils are in mostly shade, so no buds on them, either.
Happy, winter jasmine cascading down that hill would be so pretty! Any updates on the hill? Any signs of spring from your winter-planted grasses?
Signs of Spring here on the farm..............an inch of ice on both decks, bird feeders empty, no other signs. Do I sound like it is a beautiful day for the Irish to celebrate? Well it is but since I am Scotch Irish, Spanish and English what can I do today but complain about the fact more ice and snow are coming late tomorrow.
I am really not having a fun time here. I planted some seeds yesterday (most of you know seeds do not grow for me) and then read about them and they are very toxic to birds, humans and other animals. Some states ban the sale of them. Dature Inoxia or moonflower.....so, watch those suckers grow since I do not want them around. If they do and anyone wants some toxic plants, just yell because they will go to the dump as soon as they show life. I read about them on www.ask.com/wiki/Datura_inoxia. I was really thinking Spring when I planted them and what a disappointment.
Off to groom Charle......he looks fat he is so hairy. Have a great day.
JB, sorry to hear you have ice. THe rain expected here must have blown over there and froze,
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Datura is only toxic if you eat it, nothing eats it willingly so please don't feel so bad. I've grown several years and nothing ever eats from the plant.
Gosh, I"m sorry you guys. I think I'll stop whining about my rain in the 40's now. I'll smile for it, thankful for no ice! JB, I grew moonflowers next to my front door one year. It was beautiful, smelled heavenly, and the bluebirds nesting next to it didn't mess with it at all. I think you'll be pleased with them, really.
I DO have signs of spring! The irises will hopefully be all the way up by the time we close, it'll look so nice with a little color (at least green)
But what if your cats or dogs eat the plants? Will they die?
ssgardener - no sign of life from my front hill -- I'm a little worried, but I know it is early and it can take new plants a while to adjust. I was going to put the winter jasmine in the back, though, not the front, in a spot where we have had a lot of erosion -- I read that it will do ok in part-shade, which is the condition in the spot I have in mind. I am a little worried that it could be too aggressive in the front. Though I may try a piece of it there as well. Truly, I have spots in mind for whatever Sally has set aside for me!
Critters don't get to eat plants :) I just read all 119 pages of the covenants for new house and from what I can see I can plant some trees and they don't micro-manage gardening very much, just ask we get permission for major changes and landscaping
Barb????? Do you have cats and dogs etc, that could eat those moonflowers. The fact they even said it was banned in some states, I was really concerned. My dog is still a pup and he loves to eat plants and dig in the pots. etc. Do not want an accident that could have been prevented. JB
Yes ma'am, we had three different dogs at the time, one Shephard, one chow/shepherd/Samoyed mix, and one border collie mix. None of them ever messed with them, but then again, they weren't very puppyish, either.That would definitely make a difference. I suppose I'd have to think about it, if he eats plants; he's probably a child to you, right? Got to take care of the wee children! BUT .... they're awesome flowers
Charle is a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel and he loves to eat all sorts of crappy stuff including weeds, grass, leaves, he is so adorable but naughty. He will be 2 Y.O. in May. If you want to visit his Facebook page it is under Here Comes Charle (no i) ....he was such a devil dog from day 1 that I started a page to share his growing up and out of the bad habits. That was a joke, we have really done well, but we still have a way to go. ☺ His name is Sir Charles of Concord.
He is adorable ! and royalty too ! Can't beat that ...
Look at those soulful big brown eyes - mischief??? no way, say it isn't so LOL
He was bred and born on a large standardbred horse farm by the wife of the owner...she also breeds those big yellow dogs that I forget what they are, anyhow, he is just a plain old barn dog and he loves to chase the barn cats but he lives the life of a king. Little crapper he is.
Oh JB he is so sweet.
There is a difference between Datura Inoxia (Jimsonweed weed and other names it goes by)
and Datura Metel--the ones we all grow here...the purple and yellow and...such...
The Inoxia is perennial and spread all over. it comes back every year--whether from
roots or seeds. It is annoying as it takes over.
Many people erroneously call it "Moon Vine" because both have similar white blooms.
However--I believe the real Moon Vine is closer related to Morning Glories????
It is an listed as an "Ipomoeae".
Here is a link from PF of the Datura Inoxia--see the first couple selections.
The others are ID as D. "Metel"....
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/search.php?q=Datura+Inoxia&Search=Search+PlantFiles
And here is the Moon Vine Link:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/893/
The Daturas definitely have a pungent smell, if you handle it or get close. Stems and leaves....
I think animals would smell that and not want to touch it, leave alone eat it.
Hope this clarifies it somewhat....Gita
Gita, thanks, did you read the link I got the information from and I thought I put it up on here earlier.
http://www.ask.com/wiki/datura_inoxia
I got it from Georgia Vines and she calls it Datura Inoxia Moon Flower Plant. Sometimes I think to much knowledge is not good for you. ☺ She tells you on her packing slip to google the botanical name for the most current information. So I did and this is what started it all.
Signs of spring have slowed down winter has come back we're supposed to get 1" of snow today, after crazy snow and sleet filled Saturday, brrrrr it's only 31°
We don't have any spring to send from here either, Brr, forecast for tonight is very wet and cold. Dreary. Clouds do remind me to take a vitamin D capsule.
Thankfully we didn't get any of the icy weather that was forecast for us this morning, but I was excited to see yesterday evening on my way to church that the willows are starting to weep! That's one of the early indicators I look for to herald each Spring. The daffodils and jonquils are nodding in the breeze, too. The bummer is looking at them from the dry safety of this wood stove-heated room, thru the raindrops!
My daffodil field is showing signs of life and now wouldn't you know it is going to snow turning to freezing rain. Holy Crap.
It is really chilly and I shipped plants to TX, CA and WV this morning to hopefully get them on their way before the weather gets colder. It is not supposed to get colder in fact it is to go above freezing and rain, but I do not know where the line is that divides the changeover.
Stay off the roads Flow when this starts...it is to be really nasty. I went to the liquor store to pick up my wine on the way home from the P.O. so I am in to stay. LOL
Have a wonderful day all of you Sweet people. JB
JB-
I would love to see pictures of Daff field. How often do you dig and divide the bulbs? It is my understanding that it should be done every 5 years to maximize blooms.
In like a lion out like a lamb? I guess we are the opposite this year.
Be safe everyone.
Hopefully will start after I pick the kids up from school
Crazy weather!
[quote="UMD_Terp"]JB-
I would love to see pictures of Daff field. How often do you dig and divide the bulbs? It is my understanding that it should be done every 5 years to maximize blooms.
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There is not much to look at. Twelve rows are there, but it looks like we lost hundreds of bulbs since last year. We do not dig and divide. I actually started this with a few hundred of the very different pinks, and other hybrids. There were over 3000 bulbs planted over the years. I lost many of the hybrids(Brecks) except for a few that I will show you later in the year as they bloom.
The cheaper bulbs (all Brecks) seem to thrive and multiply, naturalization I guess they call it. I had them all listed at one time and the same year I lost all the tags to the Iris, the daffy tags went also. That was the stupid blizzard we had a few years ago. I did at one time wholesale them but last year they bloomed before the market opened for the season so I ended up with a stand at the entrance to the farm. It works that way even better than wholesale. I can cut and sell when I please this way. We always had a farm stand anyhow so people look for our flowers. Only daffs now. No more glads or sunflower or the others. Since the kids are both working for the State of NJ there is no one here to help me in the fields so we gave up selling most of those that took so much work. Daffs just come and go without any help and that is good for us. We are not adding anymore rows this year. The right side of the twelve rows will be our new bird area. We want to plant shrubs there instead of veggies. Shrubs that attract birds and butterflies. Hoping we get it done this Spring but not sure if we will. The garden on the left of the rows are pussy willow, iris, lilac, tulips and some other bulbs, holly trees I propagated from cuttings, peony bushes...just a bunch of "stuff" I would stick in to hold until I sold it and that is what did not sell or what we decided to keep. I used to call it my holding bed. Now it is just a bed. LOL.
See what happens when you ask me a simple question....you get a darn book as an answer. Sorry. JB
I liked your book JB. I'm glad Paul asked!
IT will be a nasty night here too.
Paul, they say divide every five years perhaps, but I find that I still get some blooms from every clump that I planted in between my trees back there. THey were planted 10-nearly 20 yrs ago..(where did the time go??). If you are starting to add daffs to your woods, do them one by one and they will bloom for a long time. (Unlike tulips, for which many newer ones don't rebloom very long.)
There is an old house I know of, with a long front yard and many daffs were planted in the grass there. I'll try to go by this spring and see it again, and get a pic.
