STARTING OUR SPRING VEGGIE GARDEN Pt. 2

SE Houston (Hobby), TX(Zone 9a)

Steph,

RickCorey_WA posted this on another thread:

Then I read a suggestion from someone: for very early Sugar Anne snap peas, start them indoors on paper towel, and transplant as soon as the root tip emerges. He suggested checking the paper towels twice per day, and transplanting before you had many mm of root.


Or, from England:
- Start peas indoors "in lengths of guttering", then extrude the whole gutter contents into an outdoor trench) : http://www.nwedible.com/2011/05/sowing-peas-in-guttering-whe...

Irving, TX(Zone 8a)

stephanietx
peppers could take up to 12 days to germinate. Don't give up!
If you have a heating mat, set it at 90 F ... they should sprouts in 4-5 days.
I had some problem with a few varieties of peppers and eggplant. I think it was my fault because I removed the humidity dome as soon as 90% of the other varieties did germinate. I did re-seed 2 varieties and the problem was that the seed shell didn't open ... even after soaking the seed before in water.
I did try again and this time I put the little pot inside a plastic bag and secure it with an elastic.
NO PROBLEM - they all germinated in 8 days and the seed shell did fall off.

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Irving, TX(Zone 8a)

I keep harvesting lettuce, radishes the last cauliflowers and broccoli shoots.

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Irving, TX(Zone 8a)

I did prepare the hoop cover for my tomatoes, using the perforated plastic.
Tomatoes are out in the sun.

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Liberty Hill, TX(Zone 8a)

Stephanie-thanks, I didn't think they were sowed very long ago. What potting mix did you pot them up in? It's supposed to freeze the next 2 nites, covered the potted plants up, again.

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

Linda, here's the link to the winter sowing tutorial: http://haphazardgardener.blogspot.com/2009/03/my-winter-sowing-project.html

Lisa, I used Lady Bug brand's Germinator Seed Starting Mix. http://haphazardgardener.blogspot.com/2009/03/my-winter-sowing-project.html

I've been waiting for 2 weeks for my peppers to germinate. Gonna plant more tomorrow.

Liberty Hill, TX(Zone 8a)

Thanks Stephanie for the information. I've used Lady Bug products and I really like them. Did you use it to start the seeds as well as pot up?

What kind of peppers have you sowed and what temp do you have them at? I start 30-40 different types and some take forever.

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

I did use the seedling mix to start as well as to pot up. When I move these to larger cups, I'll use Vortex potting soil and add some compost to the mix.

I started some California Wonder, Red Bullnose, and Jalapeno peppers. Two of the jalapenos have sprouted, but nothing else.

Liberty Hill, TX(Zone 8a)

I have to ask where you got the seeds? That's a long time for sweet peppers to germinate. You may try soaking the seeds overnight. What temp are they at?

Boston, MA(Zone 6b)

Happy Valentine's Day, y'all!

I got up and about early, it's finally sunny out, dug out some things I don't like, harvested a mess of collards, and put in three kinds of tomato seedlings: Stupice, Cherokee Purple, and who-knows-what kind from a seed exchange.

Sowed in some zinnia, hollyhock, and poppies around the borders, and now have to figure out where to put all these scarlet runner beans that have suddenly sprouted - I swear, I put them in a paper towel yesterday, and they're going like gangbusters.

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Find em somewhere to climb...

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

Lisa, some seeds were saved, some I purchased from Baker Creek and some from Victory. I don't know the exact temp but it's somewhere around 80º. I'm going to try again. I thought about trying to sprout them on a paper towel in a plastic baggie.

SE Houston (Hobby), TX(Zone 9a)

Well, it was 48° this morning when I put the tomato seedlings back out...

This'll be the first day they're out in whatever bright sunlight hits them. They've been under the patio cover for about 3 weeks now, so, I don't think the sunshine will hurt them any.

Been doing this nighttime in, morning out, thing all week now. But, "we do what we gotta do!"

My bell peppers inside are GORGEOUS! Better than the GORGEOUS Emerald Giants I grew a couple seasons ago, cause these aren't growing too big, too fast! Collards and spinach are liking the cool nights. I'm wondering, however, if I didn't make a mistake by sowing the eggplant seedlings outside. Don't know what I was thinking. Shoot!

Guess I'll be sowing more seeds inside, just in case those sitting out in the damp Earthbox are rotting away. Shoot.

Marty,
Your broccoli s looking VERY happy under the lights! Will post some pics on the weekend.

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY, YA'LL! SENDING MUCH LOVE TO YOU GUYS!

Linda

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Just watch- you'll be in eggplant heaven come more heat! Happy Valentines to you guys! was down in Linda's neck of the woods-Hobby Airport, but sittin in El Paso this morning. Glorious sunshine. ONE more freeze snap Linda for you- but I doubt you'll get colder than 35* -grits on the other hand isn't to be so lucky, end of Feb before lucky enough to climb as warm as south Houston!!! Enjoy the day guys!

SE Houston (Hobby), TX(Zone 9a)

Thanks for the encouragement, Kitt!

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Seen in Ark a few weeks ago...

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SE Houston (Hobby), TX(Zone 9a)

Amazing Grace!!!

Kitt,
When're you coming close to Hobby again? I need one 16 ft. x 52-53" cattle panel. No truck. From that rear view mirror, I see you've got LOTS of truck, LOLOL!

Linda

Madison, AL(Zone 7b)

Turnips and beets are sprouting. They're so cute when they are 1/8" tall.

I'm surprised because the peas and radishes are usually first out the gate.. I did get the radish seeds from a random internet trade, so who knows there, but the peas are from a known good source.

Anderson, IN(Zone 6a)

It is warm here again , maybe in a few more weeks it will begin to stay that way. Always waiting and then planting time get here , Wanting that cloudy ,rainy day to plant , and guessing can get kind of tricky , even with Doppler radar forecasts to help..
Annual flowers ,,vegies , the tomatoes , they all like a couple cloudy rainy days , if it can happen
when they get planted . Hope the weather cooperates for you all , (rare these days)

I lose a lot of annual flowers to sun bake , no rain at planting time , and yes, I water them any way but I am not as good as mother nature..
It will begin to warm here next month , likely, I am as excited as a dancing snoopy dog in anticipation ,, some more flower dancing perhaps ?

SE Houston (Hobby), TX(Zone 9a)

Just some inspiration from an old thread, for those among us who are space challenged...

#1 Bean Stair Planter Construction http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=4441891

#2 Bean Stair Planter Planted http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=4441894

#3 Lettuce waste not, want not... http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=4441905

#4 Lettuce be rewarded for re-purposing everything we can... http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=4441906

Genius...

Anderson, IN(Zone 6a)

I have some lettuce in a mini greenhouse container ,, Are you reading my mind? scare...eeee...lol
I will read through he links some more....

Liberty Hill, TX(Zone 8a)

Nola-don't be surprised if you don't get any poppies or hollyhocks to flower this year. Is this when you usually sow the seeds? Poppies are usually sown in the fall/winter in the south. They don't need the cold to germinate but the plants need time to get established before it gets too hot. What kind did you sow? Hollyhocks are usually biennial meaning they flower the second year but if you sow them In the fall you have a good chance they will flower in the spring.

Stephanie- 80 might be a little too cool, can you get the seeds any warmer?

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

Success! They're growing up!

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Monte Vista, CO(Zone 4a)

They look very nice, Stephanie! I can't wait to plant seeds. Can't plant outside until middle of June, so I watch all of this with great anticipation. I plan to start some seeds inside soon, though. Can't wait to grow the yellow heirloom tomato seeds I got this winter.

Boston, MA(Zone 6b)

Quote from 1lisac :
Nola-don't be surprised if you don't get any poppies or hollyhocks to flower this year. Is this when you usually sow the seeds? Poppies are usually sown in the fall/winter in the south. They don't need the cold to germinate but the plants need time to get established before it gets too hot. What kind did you sow? Hollyhocks are usually biennial meaning they flower the second year but if you sow them In the fall you have a good chance they will flower in the spring.


I sowed the first round of poppy seeds on Jan 1, and the seedlings are poking up, but I did cheat and get 3 already-started poppies from Annie's - they look about ready to bloom if it would just keep being sunny for longer than a day.

Any ideas for some shorter-term loveliness to fill in? I've been seeding zinnias every other week or so, and just got a little pack of interesting-looking cosmos. The peas are threatening to overtake a small part of the house right now, but it sure would be nice to have some color!

I've never grown hollyhocks before - I got some in the free seeds for new bees package and figured to just toss 'em in there. My gardening style is "cottage haphazard." I have no earthy idea what will come up next.

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Anderson, IN(Zone 6a)

Eventually the texture and plant height of ""cottage haphazard"" gives some interesting results, There are some neat looking blooms in the meantime also, that way..
How would I know that? lol

Magnolia, TX(Zone 9a)

Hollyhocks bring to mind Gladiolas...

SE Houston (Hobby), TX(Zone 9a)

How about I start a new thread for the flowers? I have some questions myself about shade gardening, but, I've been following the spring veggie starting discussion here and don't wanna cause a sidetrack?

OK, SPIN-OFF THREAD: "Starting Our Spring FLOWER SEEDS, Pt. 1"

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1298403/



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St. Simon's Island, GA(Zone 9a)

I love that term "cottage haphazard". I think that would fit my yard perfectly!

Boston, MA(Zone 6b)

Veggies and flowers and a puppy and kids and a seed habit = totally cottage haphazard. :)

DeLand, FL(Zone 9b)



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Irving, TX(Zone 8a)

Today I seeded indoor: okra, cucumbers and watermelon.
This year I decided to start those crops earlier than normal because I upgraded to a new growing light and I have more shelf room. The plants will be older and stronger when I will transplant them out ... just an experiment.
Peppers and eggplants growing wonderful. Zucchini already monsters (only 3 weeks old).
Tomorrow I will transplant out the tomatoes.

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Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

I just direct sow my okra when it's nice & warm. I enjoy okra all summer long!

Irving, TX(Zone 8a)

I cannot direct sow okra in my garden ... or anything else (apart for lettuce) ... I have PILLBUGS MONSTERS !!!

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

Have you tried applying beneficial nematodes to help deter those pests?

Anderson, IN(Zone 6a)

I have ants and voles ,direct sow 20% survival rate if it goes well'
Needless to say direct sow , not in my garden !!!! ...

SE Houston (Hobby), TX(Zone 9a)

Sluggo Plus. No more pillbugs...

I sowed okra too soon last year, and the cool/hot cycle just made 'em go schizo. perfectly good waste of my water.

This year, I'll throw out some seeds when it's consistently 85-95° out.

Irving, TX(Zone 8a)

Quote from stephanietx :
Have you tried applying beneficial nematodes to help deter those pests?


yes ... pillbugs are just a part of the soil biology in my garden. I have learn to play around them and they are not a big deal at all.
I will not use Sluggo or others chemicals in my garden. I have spent years to create a pure and healthy soil ... I have good bugs taking care of the bad ones ... and tortoises eating the tomato hornworms .. yummy ... lots of worms when I dig ... it is the happy garden !

Gainesville, FL(Zone 8b)

Quote from drthor :
... it is the happy garden !

Judging from your photos, it certainly seems to be! I won't argue with success!

BUda, TX(Zone 8b)

I didn't get good germination out of the Baker Creek Okra seed either this year. Of the HCR & Stewart's ZB that I sowed the first round, only 2 ZB's germinated. I got 100% germination of the NOID okra we had grown in 2009 or 2010, and saved seed from some pods.

I'm making 1 last attempt with a seed mat this time & just by looking, it's not looking real good at this point. Almost all the other seeds in the flat have at least poked their heads up. If these are duds, I'm going to get rid of all that seed. Also didn't have a lot of success with the Cowhorn 22 Okra seed the first time around, so I'm really watching them, hoping for some better results.

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