Id go design forum. makes sense.
CLOSED: DJ'S FALL ROUND ROBIN SEED SWAP 2012 PT6
I vote with Pfg and minnesippi.
Think my planting is done for the season, 'spose to be getting precip and cooler temps starting tomorrow and thru the next week. Am thinking after that the soil will be too cool....So I guess it's YEAH...I'm done for the season, only had about a hundred plants that didnt get in, Darn , but they are in pots so should make it thru the winter just fine as they are really hardy plants.. Now to indoor projects, golly you think maybe I should finish the kitchen...lol. Now to dig out my plant stand and find all the lights a few new screws, a new painters cloth...yup...might be a good project while it snows outside.
GM All well i have opened a NEW FORUM
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1290104/
this is Beginner Landscaping Discussion Forum DON"T FORGET TO ADD IT TO YOUR WATCH LIST
hope you will come share your ideas with us . well I have a few things that have to get done so you all have a great day will be back later.
susie
Thanks Susie
LANALILA : Can you Dmail me The Conf # when you get the robin back in the air . Please
Hi, all.
Susie, FYI, it's actually Lanakila (not Lanalila). Bet she's having a lot of fun with all those seeds! :)
Michelle
anyone have any of these ?
Giant Zanzibar Castor Bean -Ricinus- Green Leaf
Sanguineus Castor Bean
Pink Carmencita Castor Bean -Ricinus carmencita
Hello Yellow Butterfly Flower -- Asclepias or any of these
Susie, I have R. communis zanzibariensis with red stalk, white leaf veins. It was about 12 feet tall this year. Want to try it?
I just checked in to see how the Robin is moving and it looks like given the 3 day rule it should be on it's way to Chicory. Wow! I may have it very soon-better get some more seeds packed up!
Alana
Can I ask a question?
I grew up around wild growing caster bean plants. Everyone cut them down, trying to kill them as they were toxic to touch and would kill if a child ate the beans. So my question is "Why grow them in your garden? What purpose do they serve?" I quess that's really 2 questions.
Out in Calif they grow wild in the hills, along ditches. Most green, but occ., I have seen a red one.
Marti, I love the tropical look and I am especially fond of the giants.
They grow wild here too, which is what caused my interest in the first place.
They are toxic, though not to touch. No children are unsupervised in my garden and I do not leave seeds lying around for the curious.
In the decades I have grown them I have never had anyone eat one and I have never heard of any child eating one or being made ill.
Hundreds of garden and indoor plants are highly toxic to people and pets; Rhododendrons and Rhubarb leaves come to mind, not to mention the ubiquitous Pokeweed; a child has only to walk by their parent's plant stand or walk outside to come in contact with them.
I Would love some One year Way back 2001 when I really started to get into gardening I received Seeds in a swap Planted a couple & one of them Grew up to be 15 ft tall & I forgot to safe seeds from it & then Never got any more .
while Looking in a book the other day reminded me of them so I would love to grow more again :)
& as for being Poison I have no kids around to worry about that & if the Deer want to Nipple & get sick well then maybe that will teach them to stay out of my gardens :) I Also love the tropical look . & as an added Plus Birds seem to sit on the Branches as they guarded their Nest & eat their seeds .
Well the Robin is on the way to CHICORY31- Should land on Monday & Yes there has always been a 3 day lay over but i guess i also need to take in concideration that some of you have JOBs & Family so if you really need an extra day or two PLease Just let us know .
Did I Mention The seed catologs have started landing in my mail box already ?? Along with i just got my Spring 2013 Bluestone book
so i have books to read today :) after i get back . Have to go shopping for a few things ya all have a great day .
back later
Well, I guess I'll still not have them. I need the room to plant Elderberry bushes. My garden is one with flowers and I like to mix in things that I can eat or make jellies/jams, or salads out off. I'm busy killing pokeweed everytime I see it poke its head up. I keep a hoe handy and chop the thing out.
I'm looking forward to getting the Robin. I will be looking for mostly veggie seeds, but thought I'd look thru the flower seeds. I'm love some Bee Balm. My sister trys to dictate what I can plant in the garden, but I'm the one who does the gardening and watering and weeding, so I'll plant what I like.
I am already for that Robin to plop into my mailbox, actually it will land on the front porch. I think 3 days will be plenty for me unless something else comes up.
I got Baker's Creek and already have a seed order going out on Monday.
@ Marti- Many times with poisonous plants, it will cause the victim to vomit before they become ill, Repeated exposure is what causes problems. Most are so bitter with tannins and alkoloids that one taste will cause the one who put it in it's mouth to spit it out.
Even castor bean. I remember a woman ( Dr. ) tried to kill her husband by feeding him castor bean. That was in Kansas City about 15 yrs ago. She was feediing it to him over many months. He had a brain abcess but did not die. Ricin is very poisonous, but that is purified and very concentrated form of the toxin in castor bean.
Many of the plants that are toxic have very few pests a good reason to have them because they can deter pests for anything growing near them. That's why we grow many of the "poisonous" plants. They actually should be called toxic.
I grow 'poisonous' plants in my yard because I am out in the country and the deer, gophers, and bunnies eat everything I plant that is at all edilble. I've seen them strip an italian cypress. I do take some caution in the dog yard and I've never had a cat or a dog get sick from eating a plant. Children can easily be taught not to eat plants that mommy or daddy don't give them. Besides how interested are kids in veges anyway, LOL.
I took a plant propagation class back in September. It involved a couple of hours of classroom work and then full rein to take semi-hardwood cuttings from the Raulston Arboretum. Also included was 10 weeks in a misting bed in a greenhouse. Yesterday I picked up my cuttings and all but one type rooted for me. The Acca sellowiana, a pineapple guava, wasn't up to the task, but I'll give it a try again when it is in softwood stage in the spring. I ended up with many cuttings of 2 types of gardenia, 2 types of fig, 2 types of edgeworthia, and a beautyberry. They are potted up, tented, and will be put under lights later today. Hopefully I won't have much loss and will be able to trade some of the extras! The class repeats in January, with pickup in April, so this will be the hardwood cuttings. I believe that the class repeats in May too, for softwood cuttings. So fun!
Chicory, I'm sorry that you missed out on the group order for Baker's Creek. It was a lot like the Robin in that you could get a 'share' of a packet instead of wasting all the extras. Next time....
I agree about the 'poisonous' plants not being a real danger to people. My grandchildren were infants -who put everything in their mouths- at my old house years ago, where I had convallaria, Lilies Of The Valley, for one. I also grew Datura as an annual. I also had roses with thorns, lots of scary things. At that stage, my daughter never left them unattended outside, not because the plants were unsafe, but because of dirt, bugs, who knew what they could grab? I do understand that some people have dogs who eat plants indiscriminately and get sick. Then it makes sense to clear out the most toxic. Otherwise, I don't think it's worth the effort, and you can miss out on some real beauties. I also use them to discourage pestes wherever I can.
That propagation class sounds terrific! I haven't done much yet with cuttings, but I'm beginning to think about it more and more. To have access to a misting bed, wow! How fantastic!
I'm planning this week to start chilling my perennial seeds using the Deno method- paper towels in baggies, many in the frig for stratification. I'm hoping to get seedlings started under lights in January, some only take a couple of weeks of cold to germinate. I really have to plan my space well this year. Anything I start here in the city has to stay in the apartment until the end of March, then hopefully be big enough to harden off right away when we re- open the house. Anything I'm not in such a hurry for I can WS outside once we get back there.
Seed heaven...
Say Pam...where did you say you learned about the Deno method? And do you have a list of the goodies you start that way? Just curious to learn more....
anakila...wow...that's sounds like a wonderful class. sure would be something I'd like....'spose you could give us more info and teach us.....lol, Please with a pretty!!!!
I don't have a misting bed but.....Will be setting up my seed starting stand this week and will be placing plastic sheeting (painter's plastic drop cloth .7mil WMart $1.24) over it and along the sides to help hold the humidity in. I do however (when I'm home), mist my seedlings every few hours (once they are up, til then use dome over tray).
Boy that robin is moving pretty fast, lol.....I'm beginning to think my April choice will be off a few months. Shucks!
Hi, all.
Wow... 12 and 15 feet... Those are some tall plants!
Lanakila, that sounds like a neat class! I hope your cuttings all grow well for you :)
Susie, have fun looking through all those seed catalogs :)
Have a great rest of your weekend, everyone!
Michelle
Kathy, where on Earth do you find space to put all of those plants once you've got them hardened off? I can't seem to get beds established well enough to place more than two or three flats a year, even though I try to stick with perennials. I'm just no good at keeping up with the weeds. Last year one of my beds was taken over by a pervasive weed that I couldn't spot kill. Darn things went to seed while I was on vacation and now they are sprouting constantly. I'm going to relocate the perennials and just kill off the bed for the season.
I decided to take the cuttings class because so many of the modern perennials are hybrids so they don't seed true. For example, all of the new echinacea are hybrids so you really need to clone them from rootstock if you want the same variety. One of the varieties of fig that I got does not grow well at all from seed, so cloning from a cutting was the best approach. We'll see though....
Google Norman Deno, lots of stuff comes up including his books, which were hard to get for a while, but are now in the public domain and available on line.
Another good source:
http://tomclothier.hort.net/page02.html
Also:
http://theseedsite.co.uk/
The seed site doesn't do Deno, but has lots of other germination info
One more:
http://www.robsplants.com/seed/baggy.php
I also keep a garden file on line that I add to whenever I see a good tip. I have charts, lists, etc.
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yup..I've heard about problems with the newer Echies....many even revert back. That's bad when you pay premium prices for new plants that aren't even perfected yet.... Ya.... I know what you are talking about, I don't always get them all planted either....there have been years where I worked up the ground and made beds to line them out... Yup and loose a bunch also...but I try my darndest to get them in.....One year I had 110 flats of plants.....How do you think I filled my border....lol...it's 45ft wide and 100ft long....it's taken me yearrrrs to fill it...and I do mean years. That's why most of my pix of the garden are of individual plants. I'm still waiting for things to grow and fill in as they were planted with mature ht x w in mind. I also learned a trick..plant my young perenns. at proper spacing and then interplant with annuals for a season or two..
See pix...I have many many gaps...In the areas I first began 5 years ago..they are now beginning to knit together nicely. And it seems like I loose many little ones over the winter, but all in all Iv'e had great success. I spend the winter potting on indoors when I can and then move them to one of two areas outside. I build a little mini greenhouse to the back side of the house one year. 2x4's and enclosed in plastic. If I do it early enough the ground warms and my hardiest babies go out, if too cold on certain nites I use frost blankets over the little ones..The main problem is I have to open them many times in the winter as it gets very warm on the south side where they are in full sun when not snowing..lol. Another area I have is to the backside of the garage. It's a smallish area 12'x14' almost west facing...was ahorse stall Ibelieve. I plastic it in and it stays nice and snug in there. Again only the hardiest go out early, Violas, Daisies, Dianthus, Coreopis; you know...the really tough plants. I do over plant, I know...but I'm just never sure how many I will get in. And I have also donated many to my garden club as part of our fund raising in the spring. I give away bunches toooo. I try to make sure I plant the really special stuff or hard to start thing first.
This will be the first winter in 3 years I've had to set up my grow room and am excited as this is the second seed trade for the year and soo many new ones I ordered also... I have a back yard to fill now, holes in the main border and another garden room that I started years ago..yup w**ds are a problem sometimes, the annuals are pesky but easy it's those perenn grasses that I'm battling now...
One thing I'm attempting to do is plant different things in different areas when I can, so there's some diversity in plant material and not the same thing over and over and over..you get the idea..And yes oh so many hours of planting. Tho rototilling the area first when possible helps. Can't do that in the main border any more tho..too many plants now so have to dig individual holes.
When I do buy plants I usually try to divide to help increase plant material, many times growing more from seed gotten off the plant..I've had great luck so far, it just takes time for things to fill in when planting such a large space..And alot of peat moss!!!!! LOL. This coming spring I will be doing editing so things look more like I want them, not just filling spaces with plants that I have extras of. Isn't gardening fun!!!! Lol. It's also a great help when I can find reseeders that I like such as in pix 4, the johnny jump ups help to fill in gaps. My garden goes all the way toward the top of the pix, grey carpet is my path on far right side. See, look at all those gaps.
Lanakila, If you give bottom heat to the Pineapple guava it will root faster. I worked at Logee's for a couple of years. we used bottom heat on many things because they needed to get started fast.
I always miss out on stuff. =/
But I prefer to be outside than on the computer no matter what the weather. That is why I rarely post. I have a greenhouse so when it is cold, I am out there most of the time.
Right now I am working collecting seed from my stash to WS. I am ready for it to cool off. I have rose cuttings in the GH that are just starting to root and I want them to be solid before I move them to bottom heat for a little while. They were started a couple of months ago from a trade.
I also spend a lot of time with my dogs. They are my real hobby. I compete in obedience and agility, and the breed ring (think Westminster but not us LOL)
I am a Horticulturist by education and trade. I no longer garden for a living, that is a luxury for someone to have a gardener. When the economy tanked so did my husband's job. So we moved and I left a job I truly loved and had dreamed of. Not often are there Estate gardening positions where a gardener is given free rein. I had some very modern and crazy things there.
So I do gardening for myself. I still do some small design jobs but that is it.
Kerrie you can come redo My gardens any time I truly need a designer:) Free REINS Here :)
GM all Snowy cold day so off to bake ya all have a good day . Robin should land today :)
I am ready and armed with extra seed to trade.
No snow here it is 65 right now .
I need to bake too but have some other things I need to attend to.
Logee's
I was actually down your way a few weeks ago, Kerrie. I did some geocaching out at the Idlewild Road Park. One of the BEST caches I've ever done was there! Best. Really. Awesome.
I'll definitely try a little bottom warmth for the Acca sellowiana in January. I might do half of them dipped in IBA and run through the misting bed, and the other half at home under a standard plastic tent with some heat.
Logee's fun place to work and at the end of the season there was always tons of extras to take home. It is a tropical retail/mailorder greenhouse in Connecticut.
I live just a couple of miles from the 218 /485 exit (44) in Mint Hill. We do geocaching too! there are a couple at the park in Mint Hill , one I have found but the other I have not. I think it has not been updated. Had my first experience with fire ants doing a geocache.
I think you will have better luck and will get some of those rooting well with bottom heat.
The robin is huge. not sure how it flies, I think it is a ground only bird right now.
The robin sounds exciting!
Kerrie : Hope you have a great day with the robin today & Just wanted to say when you get ready to put him back in the air will you dmail me the conf#
I'm going out in my little shed & get out all my containers for my winter sowing
back later in the day
OK Deejay I will send you the conf# .
I am ready for WS just wish it would cool off so I can start working on it.
Czimmerman it will leave for Ky tomorrow. It didn't get to my house until last evening.
I found some things that will be good here. Added a few things some may find fun. Hopefully some one can grow Sahuaro cactus =)
Have a nice evening all
Will be keeping an eye out for the robin
It's well worth the wait, Chris!
Yes im sure it is!
PFG, I did a lot with cuttings last year. I met a guy selling plants at the Farmer's Market and he did all of his plants with cuttings. The main thing I learned from him was that smaller is better and only a couple of leaves as it takes to much energy to maintain a bunch of leaves. He would even cut larger leaved cuttings leaves in half. All of his cuttings are about 3.5" tall - 2.5" out and 1" in the soil. I did Brugmansias, figs, Catalina cherry, Plectranthus, Lemon Verbena, Rosemary, lavender, and a half-dozen different geraniums. The lavender was the only one that didn't take at all, I think I'll retry it in Spring, before it blooms next time. I have over 1,000 cells seeded already this fall. And I'm still excited about getting the robin and planting some more . . .it's a sickness.
Naw, not really... Or maybe just a little?!
I'm ready to start pre-treatment on my first batch of perennial seeds. I've made a list of the ones that take the longest to germinate and what I'm going to try first. I plan to post as I get results-- or not, lol-- and hope others will add their knowledge as well.
Here's my new thread in the Seed Germination forum:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=9356178
I hope to see you there!
Pam
This message was edited Dec 12, 2012 6:21 AM
GM all Well it is 12-12-12 & Sounds as the Robin is going to fly again today so could be another Landing about Friday :).
Big day today My friend Judy & I are going Out for the day shop , Dine, then off to Bingo this eve this is our time for she & Hubby Leave for Texas day after Christmas so i have to get off here & get ready for the day .
pam i will check out your post proble tomorrow . Nice sunny day . ya all have a great day back tomorrow .
susie
Well CZimmerman it is on it's way!
Hope you enjoy it!
After that it's my turn!!! YA!!!! I'm counting the days and watching the mail!!!!!
Marti001, I'll be sending you a smaller packet to include in the Robin. I received a seed order since it flew through my neighborhood and I want to add some to my baggie.
Ok, I'll do that.
Just received a very fat robin!! Whoohoo! Fun seed diving ahead:)