July Blooms

Sybil, my passi didn't bloom until late fall the first year I had it, so I wouldn't really worry about it. As long as it continues to grow and establish a good root system, it'll come back next year with a vengeance and you'll have tons of blooms.

I hope so Stephanie ... I hope so.

Thanks rouxcrew - now I can look up how big it will get!

I was hoping tht would be the case, Stephanie. I'm still watering it, and it looks pretty good, considering everything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos_bipinnatus

I believe the cosmos in question were from Mexico. ^_^

No, Carrie, they were given to me as seeds labelled, Himalayan Marigolds.

Steady, I was responding to the comment "the British took them and the Cosmos you see now days was bred from them," because I do not think the heritage of garden cosmos is from Asia but rather from Mexico. I cannot comment on your yellowy-orange very tall flowers--I had totally lost track of that part of the thread! I was only responding to the comment about Cosmos being from the Himalayans.

Oh.OK. no prob.

Cosmos sulphureus (Yellow Cosmos) - the species native to the Americas - is my favorite and the one I recommend you try if you have never grown cosmos.. Plants of yellow cosmos can range in height from 4 to 7 feet but the cultivated varieties such as 'Crest Red', 'Ladybird Dwarf Red', 'Ladybird Dwarf Gold', 'Ladybird Dwarf Orange', 'Ladybird Dwarf Lemon', and Yellow Cosmos - Klondyke Mix are not as tall.

The above is from Aggie Horticulture and explains the variation in height.

Maybe on the packet its marked Mexico but i wrote what i did after seeing them grow wild with my own eyes. Its a very old variety and they do catch a eye and require close up investigation. Should come over and look at the wild ancestors of modern day garden plants. :)
Regards.

Since we can't do that, could you send a picture? It's all the sources online which say it was discovered in Mexico. Not just Wikipedia, but other places as well, like the Texas Agricultural Site and the Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center in Texas. I read that it was introduced by the British, as you say, to Japan and the East. Couldn't it have escaped cultivation there, as so many other plants did under colonialism? (Lantana, for instance.)

http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=COPA12

I am not trying to start a fight, please understand! I am trying to figure this out.

I would love to post pics but so far I have not come across any thread concerning wild flowers, only garden variety. There should be a thread some where, if you could point me in the right direction. No hurry. The mountains are entering winter (will keep an eye open for winter flowers) so until the third month every thing will go into hibernation. The correct botanical names you all may have to provide but lets see if i can find the wild ancestor of the well known strawberry. Daisies, Cosmos, Lupins, Magnolias, Rhododendrons, Ferns, Mosses, Lichens, etc but as it is all a kind of general collection of plants, for example Euphorbias (ours), Rihpsalis (ours). These tangents seem to lead to all corners. So, to keep confusion at bay, a thread is required.
Seems like a start of a new adventure never considered by me when i stepped in. It might be slow due to a damaged spine, lower body loses sensation at 50 kilometres so breaks are a must.
Regards.

KAMasud, here is the forum for native plants and wild plants, I think your plants would fit there.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/wildplants/all/

Of course you can post a thread here any time, about the native plants from your area of the world.

Take care of yourself and let us know how it works out.

Josephine.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/tropics/all/


Here is a forum dedicated to gardeners in tropical zones, too, which you might enjoy. But as Josephine says, feel free to join this forum any time you like.

Thank you very much for your kind gesture. Lets be honest, i entered Marigolds in search and ended up on this forum. If there had been no tracking of past posts i would not even have found it again. When according to my arid climate i search for any thing, i seem to end up in Texas? That Cosmos caught my eye and the query. I will do as the both of you have so kindly suggested. Lets see. Any way, this part of the world cannot be called a tropical zone by any stretch of the imagination. We fry at 50 Celsius while our winters. now that is complicated. South, maybe 5 Celsius and the extreme North forget it, it never thaws. In my city garden (plateau) it is minus 4 Celsius and my half acre nursery minus 13 Celsius. Distance between the two is thirty kilometres.
Another requirement to be called tropical is humidity at near 100% while ours ranges normally below thirty. So, maybe Texas is same, i don't know.
Kind Regards.

It surely sounds like you climate is very extreme, but your flowers are beautiful!!! Thank you for posting.
Congratulations!!

How kewl to be discussing plant with someone in Pakistan! Kam, your cactus blooms are stunning

Oh, I was the dope who suggested the tropical forum. There is a desert forum too.... I will admit that I know about a million percent more about your climate after reading your post than I did before, meaning before I read it I knew nothing at all. Now I don't know much, but I know that you call it "arid." (50 C = 122 F for those people like me who don't remember the formula from 6th grade.) Welcome to Texas.

I have learned there are two cosmos, the one from South America that gave rise to our garden cosmos and another one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos_caudatus
There's your native Pakistani cosmos, right? Almost but not exactly the same as the one we have in seed packages.

LoL. Thank you for appreciating.
Yes, i suppose we could be fitted in a desert forum but there is a strange twist to our climate. We have the Monsoons, when it never rains but it pours. 100% humidity levels are reached in the rainy season. July and August are wet. I cannot call any Himalayan plant as native Pakistani either. China, India, Nepal, Sikkim, Tibet, etc the Himalayas belongs to them also. So naming them Pakistani is a bit dishonest. The bio diversity belongs to humanity not to one single race or creed. As to what happened to the wild Cosmos, Daisy, etc i think we need to take a peek into colonial history and what were the gardeners and botanists of that period up to. Their attempts at hybridisation must be a part of botanical history. Royal Botanical Gardens, Kew should have it somewhere in their archives.
Regards.

Beautiful flowers KAMasud!!!

Hi, Masud, Sooo lovely! Is it an artefact of the medium or is the Datura blossom really pink?

Thank you very much both, that blossom is really a light to medium pink and smells awful. A pungent, sour smell. Just to show you what this area looks like i will post a pic. Being the foothills of the Himalayas which you can see in the background ( Himalayas sprawls for hundreds of miles across several countries, mine is the NW'st quadrant where the Hindu Khush and Himalayas meet at the Pamirs).
What you will see are miles and miles of Black sally (Acacia modesta), a vital habitat for endangered species. Phulai in local dialect. Pomegernates and Rangoon vine.
Regards.

Beautiful country Masud!!!.

Wow, so different! That humidity would be great for plants but must be hard for people!

Yes its a beautiful part of the world. I cant agree to country because its shared by other countries also. You should visit Nepal which is at peace (with it self) and explore the Himalayas, maybe go see what grows at the base of the worlds tallest mountain.
Humidity. Normally its below 30% except during Monsoons but we are not a tropical country. Try Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Indonesia if you like 100% all year long but they have a up side also. May have 100% moisture but there max/min temp ranges between 28c to 32c year round. Now, those are ideal growing conditions. We are arid and only thorns seem to grow here and thorns have a beauty of their own. :).
As this thread starts with Passiflora, let me show you two first season vines having a good time.
Regards.
Masud.

Passiflora mixed with Clrodendron.

Grape out of control.

Morning Glory showing me its teeth.

Last one is a NOID for me.

More than anybody wants to know about cosmos:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/3904/

A very lovely article as usual Carrie, Thank you very much.
Josephine.

Oh, you're welcome, Josephine. I was mostly thinking of our friend from Pakistan! Things like that will start me researching and asking questions and next thing you know ... out it comes the other end, so to speak. (Not a lovely image. Sorry.)

LoL.
1)Clematis vitalba.
2)Mirabilis jalapa
3)Mirabilis jalapa
4)Salvia aegyptiaca.
5)Salvia ???
These are all growing in the wild and i can't lay claim to any that they belong to this part of the world. Marvel of Peru?
Our climate matches thats why i end up in Texas but other things can also be grown or will grow if it finds the proper niche system it likes.
Regards,
Masud.

Enjoy the glow which brought me here in the first place.
Regards,
Masud.

This is soooo beautiful! Thanks for sharing.