help identifying this spider

ok so was vacuuming and this spider scurried out from under a couch i had moved to vacuum.
i live in winnipeg, manitoba, and was wondering if it was a black widow or something else

thanks

I don't think it's a black widow but can't tell for sure in this view. BW have longer legs than this appears. BW have the red hourglass on their "tummy" IE underneath, and what we see here is the 'back' And this one looks pretty small judging by the rug texture.

BW really like to be on ground level and with stone.Their web is small, messy, and strong, often with round tan egg sacks.

Believe me I know BW; we killed #s 11 and 12 for this year today.

It's very hard to tell but it might be one of the Dwarf Spiders.

yes, i apologize pic is terrible, i have a video, but its the same view.
i was going to take more pictures in a clear container, but time went on and we just decided to get rid of it.

the dwarf spider looked very similar, when i covered it it curled up just like many of the pics on google i saw of them.
however its still possible it was a bw i assume


it has like a couple dents on its back, and had a shiny back, but it appeared a slight bit brown which is why it is probably dwarf.
most the bw spiders i see online are completely black, no color mistaken,

is it fairly common for dwarf spiders to be mistaken as a bw?

also on the spider i could clearly see the marks of two fangs.
the only reason this spider struck me as odd is i live in winnipeg, and there arent many weird spiders here escept out in the whiteshell(forest)

ive seen daddy long legs, wolf spiders, and the zebra looking spiders that hang out on the window decks.
the weird ones are outside, i rarely see anything other than what i always see.

i do remember seeing one like this in the basement about 4 years ago, and it was a dominent brown.

thanks for both your info, appreciate it.

I really don't think it is a black widow. There are probably dozens of spiders living near you that you don't even know about, or need to worry about.
I find Widows in their webs, and they don't willingly leave the web even when I'm standing over them lightning a a propane torch.
We've found about thirty in our yard over twenty years, but a dozen of them this year, and this is the first time I've had them in the house (that I know of).
I don't even know if BW is that common up there. Are you in the 'extreme southeastern part of Canada?'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_widow_spider

im not really worried, more so curious.
for me seeing a spider more dangerous than a daddy long legs(cant even bite) is something else.

i am 50km from the geographical center of canda, in other words directly in the middle, but the southern tip of manitoba,
black widows do live here, but most people dont know that due to how rare it is to actually see one.

they are not the normal black widow though, the ones here are the western black widow

There's a link in the Wikipedia entry to the western black widow. You can see how leggy they are.
There just might be a Spiders of Canada type website, or a Canadian university may have a database.

i looked in the manitoba database, and theres 450, no pics unless u click the url, and it all in dactrus terms.
would take me days. so not an option lol

oh and im confident its not a western black widow, doesnt look anything like one
still curious as to what it is

What size would you say that spider was? It looked very small. Size would help determine what to rule out.

it wasnt very big, maybe about the size of a pea

Most likely a Steatoda sp. -
http://www.pbase.com/terrythormin/image/116616238
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Steatoda_bipunctata_female_%28aka%29.jpg

definitely not a black widow

legs far too short, and your description of brownish cast to body

The Steatoda pic looks like a match, for the color and the dents