Let's Chat, "Mid At" ! Whatever, whoever, yak away

Chris, here is the link to Gita and I holding forth on big box plants...

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1109668/

We start about July 11th.

Yikes we had a lot to "say" Enjoy

I am gonna check it out Cole, thanks. I had been watching it but no activity has it not showing on my main page. Worth a re-read I would say.

Ruby

I have not seen the dog, Bud, this morning. He really is a sweet dog, mild mannered and gentle. It's the owners that have this "I don't care attitude, it's a dog, feed it, leave it out, let it do what it wants." We shall see what happens over time, I told Paul, I did my thing, it's his turn next.
Thanks Cole, I'll check it out later today. I may have read it back then, but my interest is peeked.
Ruby, do you still have your goats? Would like to hear about them. I like to pop in to the poultry thread and check out the pictures. Living in town we can't have chickens, but it always thought it would be neat to have some for eggs and as pets.

Hoping that Bud learns his boundaries well and won't be problem anymore, LG.

Hi Chris - Oh yeah, we still have Homer and Jethro. We have now had them for two years. Betwwen John cutting down pine trees for them to eat and them being lovers of all sorts of briars and other un-appetizing things that grow in fields, they are doing a nice job in clearing the front part of our property. Even though they are no longer cute babies, they still put on shows that are quite amusing. John is forever telling me to come to the front window and see what they are doing.

Speaking of chickens and eggs. John has been getting eggs from a lady at our Pharmacy whose hens are laying gigantic size eggs. The ones he brought home yesterday were straining an extra large egg carton. Man, what a difference in the size of these and what our grocery store sells as large eggs. Some months back when using eggs for baking, the supposedly extra large eggs from the grocer were not much bigger than a ping pong ball. I was amazed that they could pass inspection to be rated as large, because that isn't exactly how I would describe them.

Anyway, really great to hear from you Chris. I spend most of my Dave's time on The Clean and Clutter Free forum and on occasion will check out what is going on in the Mid Atlantic Gardeners forum.

I was keeping up with your thread for a while but haven't been there for quite a while now. It sounds as though you are doing pretty well, if only Bud's parents will respect your plea to them. Keep us updated.

Ruby

Posted the below in the :"No Chat" bird Forum.

Copy/pasting it here....don't want to get anyone's feathers (teee...heee...) ruffled!

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Lady and Judy---

I am almost "oblivious" at this time of night today---as I have been up since 3:30AM...
Woke up too early and could not get back to peaceful sleep---just "in limbo"...

I was scheduled today to be at work at 6AM--GUESS WHY????
TO WATER--OF COURSE!!!...I said to someone--"If you give me a flashlight--
then I will be able to see just what needs watering!!!! Ridiculous---but, this IS
the HD way! They have a time template to work with--and they need to comply.

These early watering hours are based on the summer schedule. NOT NOW!
In the Summer--you can be out there by 5AM--and it is cool and beautiful and
a lovely time to water everything...before the customers come marching in.

NOT NOW!!!! It is barely above freezing out there this time of year!!!
We have also had some sporadic rains--so, anything exposed--is quite OK.

Judy! The link you found on our earlier discussions re HD and other "Big Box" stores---
I copied it all out and put it in my Manager's bin. NOT sure what he will think of it!!!!
I just wanted him to see what anyone outside the "BIG BOX" thinks about the way
things are run and the insights THEY will never know about.

I don't care--as I think he really needs some wake-up calls!!!!

I am SOOOO fading right now!!!! Will pass out as soon as I lay down--IF I can shut off
my forever dialoguing mind...

Gita

edited to say I am sorry--once again--as I SOOO digressed from the Topic.
My brain just follows it's own path...Sorry!!!!

I need some ideas really quick.....

My daughter works at IKEA here. They have a "roof-top" deck off of the restaurant
where people can go outside and sit and eat.....This is in FULL SUN--and, probably,
quite hot--being roof-top....

My daughter called tonight asking for ideas....I will check at my HD next time I work---
This would be a nice SALE--with the soils and slow-release Fertilizer, and the
"Moisture Crystals", etc.....I need to see if HD has anything suitable.....

They have 6 lg. planters--about16"-17' size--and they want to plant something in there
that will:
--Live in full sun and heat
--Survive some neglect (irregular watering)
--stay green but compact --year round (Perennial)
--Flowering is not important--but--OK...
--Has to be "bushy/full" looking to balance the looks in the lg. pot
--has to be kid-friendly..like..NO thorns or stickers..

I looked through some Books--and the best I could find was a "Emerald Gold (or Cushion) Euonymus."
This seems to fit all the "requirements"....

Can anyone think of another one? I am in Baltimore, MD. Zone 7a.

Need this info ASAP--as they want to know by next Wednesday (4/13)....

Thank you for any ideas... Gita

How about dwarf Alberta spruce? They are often used on rooftop patios and in sidewalk pots. Evergreen, drouight tolerant, slow growing.....

David--

I thought of that--BUT....
They are so probe to Spider Mites.....There will be NO garden knowledgeable people there....
They DO need a bit of attention.....

Besides--Alberta Spruces are not exactly full and bushy..... (my daughter's request)....

Thanks for your suggestion, though....We DO have them at the HD....

How are all your seeds growing?????

Gita

Euonymus is tough.

It has to be a bush/ shrub to be green year round.

Do they have a dwarf gold thread cypress? They are pretty and have some color to them. Not sure if they have a variety that is small enough.
Any one tell me the name of the small blue flowers that come up this time of year. They are a very small bulb. I always want to call them Star of Bethlehem they look like those but they are blue not white.

scilla, is that the blue flower ? Holly

There's Scilla as well as Chiondoxa Glory of the Snow. I saw carpets of the two mixed together at Winterthur on Wednesday. GORGEOUS!!!!

Chiondoxa, Thanks Jan, I was thinking of them but couldn't remember the name.

Love that unforgetable blue! Ah Spring! The forsythia seems to be blooming longer this year without the quick move to hot weather.

Gita, have been considering your plantersat Ikea challenge. My idea would be to go with "intermittant or lack of care and water" as prime criterion for plant selection. So, Im going to suggest 'color guard' or 'golden sword' yucca in very well drained soil, mulched with stonesup to rim of planter and interplanted with a mix of colorful, contrasting sedums as fill. Remember that your garden center manager can "special order" plants from some suppliers..at least the ones at Lowes could customize their orders.

Here's a link to an article in Fine Gardening that shows a container with yucca in each of four seasons http://www.finegardening.com/plants/articles/10-plants-for-year-round-containers.aspx

Good luck. Judy

Yes, Thank you Glory of the Snow. I don't know why I can never remember that. My daughter has some growing in her pachysandra bed. They look great right now all those little blue flowers coming up thru and right now the pachysandra is blooming white flowers and the blue mixed thru it is so pretty. Too bad I didn't have my camera with me when I was up there last night.

Judy--

I looked at your link....IF I were the caretaker (I am not!)--I would go for a combo +
green and flowering something potted look.
Unfortunately--this is a busy retail store--and i doubt, if anyone there would have the time to attend to the well beeing of these potted plants out on the lunch deck--on top of the roof.....

I also need to suggest some plants that are easily available--at either HD of Lowes.....
They need the final suggestion by Wednesday!!! 3 days away....

I will, most likely, go with the Golden Euonymus....the dwarf, golden ones...
I know we have them in stock....They are sturdy and low care....Just hope no scale gets them....

Thanks! I appreciate all your help!

SOOO????
Has all the chatting died off here????? No posts since April 9th!

I'll just pretend I am talking to myself.....

My week-long company is gone--as of Monday and Wednesday....
I have my house back all to myself....WHEW!!!!!

Yesterday (Thursday)--I did 3 loads of laundry--mostly all the bedding...
Three different beds---all striped....also a load of dishes....
Five people can use up a lot odf mugs (for coffee) and plated for food!

I also transplanted almost all my seedlings into small pots for longevity--or to pass on....
All my Basil and my Daturas--and my Angelonias--and my Tomatoes...
The first batch of my Tomato seedlings are huge! About 10" tall now...

It was a beautiful, warm day--and I sat outside and did it all....
NOW!!! WHERE do I keep these all???? As the weather is still so-so????

Today--Friday--I mowed my lawn for the 1st time----It was so thick in places my
Mower stalled on me....The grass seed from last year was about 12" tall.

I had also fertilized my lawn a few weeks ago with "Melorganite" --b/c that is what I had
in my shed....Must have worked!!!!!

Even if spring is NOT quite here yet--the spring chores are!!!

Gita

Hey Gita, I have been thinking about you at work yesterday when I was watering plants I was thinking if Gita was here she could give me all the good tips on how to water these just right. So hard to tell if you are getting all the pots when they are packed together so tight. I get different instructions from different people. One trainer told me I had too much water on the ground and I was watering the pots too long and then she turned around a half hour later and told me she kind of gives all the plants a bit of a rain shower when she was done. Really I don't think the Roses would enjoy getting showered and how much water do you think that would put on the ground? I told her that the plants were bone dry when they came off the truck and the first watering just went right thru and that was where all the water came from. Another trainer told me no don't worry about water on the ground you will have that and there isn't much you can do. I will say that the other new employee made my mess look pretty good. Man did she have a big mess, I swear she must have had half the dirt wash out of the pots she was watering.
Not too sure I love working, really miss all my freedom, but I really like the job. The other employees are all pretty nice and they seem very pleased with me. The store got 2 calls about me being nice and helpful. Turns out that the seasonal employee that I replaced was named Holly, too. She is a bit older than me and would come back every spring but had shoulder surgery this year and didn't return. She stopped my the store to say hi to everyone and got a kick out the the info that Holly has replaced Holly this year. LOL

Holly---

I see you are getting "your feet wet" in your new job. Better buy a good pait of "Sloggers"
or some other waterproof boot! Wet feet are no fun! SO! Tennis shoes are out!
I keep a pair of extra, dry socks and I change back to regular shoes after watering..

Too much water on the floor???? You are talking about outside garden? Yes?
That is par for the course! You cannot help it! You just go ahead and never mind what some
of the "trainers" say. I bet you know more than they do!
Proper watering waters the SOIL--NOT the leaves--as that can start fungus.
You need to bury the watering wand's head into the plant to get to the soil.

When I have to water tightly packed plants-I just go row-by-row looking for tops of the plants
and hoping I hit the pots.
On the average--I keep my wand over the pot to about a count of 4 or 5.
Depending on size. A 10" pot--maybe longer. Trees and shrubs--much longer.

I have seen the people here water at he Lowes. They have much stronger watering hoses
and they seem to water from above. Like a monster shower.
However--out Lowes here has 4 times the space and plants than we do. Doing it
one pot at a time would not be possible.
I water EACH pot as our hoses all have a watering wand on them and it is best to do
the watering as individual-pot as possible. That is why it takes so long...

YES! When plants come in on a truck they are in need of an immediate drink.
Then they are good for a few days. Start with the top shelf and work down.
If you can turn the cart around--watering from both sides is the best way to go.

Will you be watering the tropicals (House plants) as well?
Then you need to know which like wet--and which do not....I am sure you know that.
Snake plants, Yuccas, Corn Plants, Pony Tail palms, some Dracenas etc can go dry.

Keep chatting here about how things are going.....
It takes a few weeks to get used to the constant walking and doing....
You can do it! You have gardened all your life....

I mowed my lawn yesterday for the first time. In places, my lawn was so thick and tall that
my mower stalled.
A while back, I fertilized it with a bag of Milorganite....Must have worked.....
Tomorrow, Sunday, I start up with my Sunday table in Outside garden.
Not expecting more than a few people to actually stop over and chat. Never happens!
The topics I chose were Pruning Roses (a bit late already)--and pruning Shrubs--
either Spring flowering or late summer flowering--and the difference between the two.

Next week they also have me doing the 2 "Do it Herself" Clinics....
The bummer is that they are on Thursday and Saturday. My days off--but I have to come in for
about 3 hours to do these Clinics...Oh, well!

Gita
This is from a previous year......

Holly--glad you work with nice people. The supervisors have to find something to comment on, so they pick watering. Cu z we all know otherwise you re unquestionably EXCELLENT! That is cute about the Hollys.

Holly--glad you work with nice people. The supervisors have to find something to comment on, so they pick watering. Cu z we all know otherwise you re unquestionably EXCELLENT! That is cute about the Hollys.

Gita just remember to always come back here to chat ; ^) When you do I'm sure someone will follow!.

I am with Gita and miss you gals when all goes quiet. Gita, I really enjoy hearing about things you have going on. I didn't realize you had house guests though. I know the relief of having them leave too. hahaha I had one girl friend who I believe would have moved in with me, had I said come on. She hated where her hubby had moved them for his job, and every chance she got, she was in her car driving from North Carolina to Virginia. I have since moved in to a much smaller home and when she visits town now she is usually house sitting for a local Bed and Breakfast establishment another of her friends owns. Phew!!!

Oh Holly, I just can't imagine any one finding fault with you. The few times I have been around you, and the dmails some years back tell me that you are really good people. Don't change and if someone has an issue with you, they are the problem, not you. Having two customers contact the store with compliments regarding your service should send big messages to management.

Sally, as always, it is good to hear from you also. I am hoping to see you three ladies at the upcoming plant swap. Need to check and see if a have and want list has started for it yet. Oh yeah, this reminds me.......Gita, since I seem to have such good luck with the plants that you have given me in the past, I dn't think you will have any problem getting rid of your excesses. The Christmas Cactus slips are coming along very nicely. Thank you for them.

Buttoneer and Bob are supposed to visit our home tomorrow. They are here at a Virginia Gold Prospectors Club meeting, a few counties over. They will be bringing supplies to show John and I how to pan for gold in some of the near by creeks. I will report back next week how the day goes. I do know that last year John and I mined for Rubies and Sapphires while on vacation in The Great Smoky Mountains. That was a very fun way to spend a day. We came home with a few small raw specimens. Some nice size pieces were being found by others around us, but we didn't find anything with much value.

This morning it is very, very wet outside. Supposed to clear off later and tomorrow is supposed to be nice and sunny again.

Ruby

No she wasn't really being critical just training me. Thanks for all the hints Gita. Sounds like what I am doing, count of 5, less water stream on smaller plants more on bigger pots. Getting the head of the wand down as close as I can and I listen if the water sounds like it is missing the pot I move it around a bit till it sounds right. My sneakers were soaked yesterday. Had wet feet all day long. LOL Mostly outside watering but they have this big tank on wheels and I used it on the inside house plants the other day. Checked them before I watered them. Most aren't in pots that drip and even if they are you can't have water on the floor inside.

Dang gum it!!!!!! Lost another few paragraphs to cyberspace where many of Dave's gardens posts go to live amongst the many others that for a reason unknown to us just decide to disappear without rhyme or reason when ever the mood strikes. Anyway.....was giviing a run down of the visit with Judy and Bob Showers yesterday to our home and gardens.

A meeting was in the planning for many months and the afternoon was supposed to have been spent panning nearby creeks for gold. Wouldn't you know that the rain storm of the century, to use her description, occured the day before their visit and upon arrival they were greeted with the damage and destruction to the country roads leading to our hillside home. One town over there were two lives lost on Saturday when a mother and young daughter didn't heed a warning barrier placed near the city's river and decided to cross an area that cost them their lives. A lot of the storms raging waters were caught on video and I have a couple of clips on my facebook page if anyone is interested in seeing them.

During the rain, John and I were sitting here oblivious to what was occuring to the road leading to our house until a neighbor knocked on the door and told us to come outside and take a peek. The first words out of my mouth when hardly out the door were something along the lines of "oh my God" when I saw a brown muddy river running where our roadway is normally.

Anyway........the creeks would have definitely been a poor and dangerous choice to play in the following day when they were swelled to double and triple their normal rate of flow. Being the plant nuts we are, we spent a bit of time walking through our yard and letting Judy choose some of the plants we have an abundance of. I believe she was happy with her haul. I know I was delighted with the house plants she brought to me from her collection.

An interesting high light of the day was when her hubby Bob through his detective work and the tools of the trade believes he found a rock in John's large collection of mountain rock in our front yard that has may possibly have gold in it. He gave John instructions on how to do his own detective in determining whether those specks are indeed gold. Will report back as soon as we know.

Over all, a very lovely visit and once again proving that some of the best all round people in this country can be found at Dave's Garden. If any of you are traveling through the area over the next little while, please feel free also to plan a stop by our home. We would love to see you and possibly share some of our plants to commerate your visit here.

So, I hope that everyone's week will turn out to be a great one. Spring has almost sprung and she sure came in with a bang here. Don't want to live through too many more of the types of weather we experienced on Saturday. Well, I do want to live through them, I just hope they don't occur too often. hahaha

Have a great week everyone.

Ruby

So sorry about the tragedy in the flooding.

Sounds like a great visit! How nice for all.

Ruby, I sure bet you did have a nice visit with Buttoneer and her Bob. They are such nice people and live less than an hours drive from us. She is the one that first invited me to the Hobby Greenhouse Assoc. So I get to see her every couple of months at the meetings.

Hello there Sally. Things were pretty bad. I got out for the first time yesterday and saw the condition of the secondary roads leading to our home. Even with private citizens and the Dept. of Transportation making a visit or two this week, things still are not the way they were this time last week.

Holly, John told me just yesterday I believe that you lived very close to Judy, I didn't realize that. How cool. Two special folks now that live in that area, plus their other halves. hahaha

My sister in law is visiting later today to walk through the gardens and pick a few things for John to dig for her to take home. If you all can imagine, a female version of John.....a real character for sure. She doesn't wear tie dye t-shirts though. She teaches Special Ed a few counties over and is on Spring Break this week. Our local schools had their break a couple of weeks ago which didn't make sense to me at all. Oh well, at the moment I have no one close in the school system but still keep up with some of what they have going on.

My Mister John came from a long list of Attorneys and I am sure it sometimes puts a burr in skin when I voice my opinions of some of the lawyers I have had the mis-fortune to deal with over the years. His grand dad was State's Attorney General for West Virginia, if that is considered impressive at all......being West VA, us Virginians have our firm ideas on those living there, and it is not always positive. Not sure if West Virginia jokes are common to those of you living north of me, but they are numerous in these parts.

Johns dad was in practice with his father in WVA but decided to move his children to Virginia to be educated rather than subject them to the somewhat different mentality of WVA. For many years his dad served as Madison County's, a small rural community near here, District Attorney and ran a farm and Day Lily business. Until a few years ago John's older sister was the District Attorney also for Madison until she had to retire due to health issues.

Anyway.....very interesting family. Not too long ago the large farm was sold and his folks now live in a retirement community. Thus each of the 5 siblings all now have hundreds and hundreds of Day Lilies and other beautiful plant specimans that came from the farm. His brother was deeded 60 acres of the farm before it was sold and lives in a Civil War era home built by John's mom's side of the family. It is supposedly haunted with the spirit of Colonel Crozet, which I find hilarious. Interesting home with remnants of the slavery era, where a slaves quarters still stands and often times relics from the era are found. True VA history is someone is interested in that sort of thing.

Well, I did another good job of getting side tracked today. Thanks for indulging me folks. Hope everyone is having a good week. So far, so good here with sun shine thankfully.

Ruby

Mornin Ruby.
That was all very interesting stuff! I have daylilies grown by a District Attorney. Woo hoo.

I am sworn off lawyer jokes cuz he one helping me (lawyer, not "lawyer joke") with estate has been all I could ask for and nice to boot. I can't expect free lol but what I paid saved a ton of stress.

we know WV jokes but will reserve further comment- except my first boyfriend had 100% WV blood and was a total a**. WV is gorgeous but the mountains make travel so incredibly difficult, it must be a very different way of life. Possibly some people retreated to the mountains to avoid society/ rules/ government. Sometimes that doesn't sound too bad!

Hey, I am 100% pure mountain woman, and during my earlier years was called Wild Mountain Woman. Some occurrances in my life for a while now is making me see the need for a bit of wild or at least more assertive parts of my nature to be called forth.

Yes, when you mention today's society, rules and government, I too believe that many of the mountain folk had dandy reasons for being back in those mountains. John and I were both farm reared children and our current life style is so much better suited to rural living than it would be in neighborhoods of any size, even though we have lived in one and did quite nicely other than the first day we moved in and had one of the only three in about twenty years vocal battles that we have ever had. I was so embarrassed standing beside the moving truck and the two of us yelling at each other. I could just imagine the neighbors all lowering their heads and sighing and saying...."well, there goes the neighborhood."

We are capable of behaving in acceptable manners but the freedom country living affords can't be beat. We had visitors earlier in the day and they both commented on the serenity of the area. They should have been here Sunday when you had to yell over the roar of tractors and bull dozers trying to repair the roads.

Where are you Gita? You are usually the one doing some of the longer posts. I miss you.

Ruby

LOL Ruby, I can just see that. I have a few of those "Oh I can't believe I acted that way" episodes myself. Not many but I remember one with my oldest daughter when she was a teenager. Just pushed me beyond my limit. Just came home from work, bone tired. Seems like things are drying out around here. I would love a few dry days when I didn't work. Boy could I get somethings done. I can't beleive Easter is only a few days away and I haven't even gotten out my decorations. Not to mention I haven't done any Easter shopping.

Ruby, I really enjoyed reading your posts. They came at a good time for me. . What a cool place for your brother-in-law to live, haunted and artifacts. My father moved us into an old house when I was a teen, the sisters were retired school teachers never married and they had all passed away, so a nephew wanted to unload the house. There were many rooms in that big house and an over grown flower garden with many plants to be discovered. The nephew took what he wanted, but left some furniture, not worth anything, but I did fine a box of old glass fancy dishes under a bed, I still have them. I was always looking for secret hiding places for more treasures. The garden held the most surprises.

ladyg, thats neat!

Ruby--Thanks for missing me-----

I posted a long post on "Think Spring" Thread....
C/P'ed it for you so you can have something to read from me. YES! it is long...
Seems you like them that way...I am happy!!!! My brain never thinks succinctly!

Her's the c/p:

Judy and Sally----

Tomorrow--Wednesday--Sherri (our Regional "biggie') will be coming to our store...
She is a nice, beautiful black lady and we always chat...She knows me and my name...

You cannot imagine the plants carnage going on today!...Carts and carts of flats and trays
and a whole 4-level cart packed with 10" HB's...Blooming plants of all kinds--GONE!!!!

Earlier I threw down the chute (because I wanted the pots--and Bell lets me have them)
28 of those Mini Phaelonopsis Orchids--in 3" clay pots. Nothing at all wrong with them!
They sell for $12--I think??? Beautiful--in bud and bloom...All different colors...
WHY? They had been around for too long. Seems to be a new policy...Need FRESH!!!

I watered straight from 8:30AM until 1:30PM. Then went home...
Started with all the carts throughout the store that had Easter stuff on them.
Then all the gardenia trees and a bunch of Tropicals, which are now jammed at only one
end of the G-House--by the.big windows. Hard to get around between the tables and
the hose does not even reach everything...
Lastly--I consolidated and watered all the Bonnie Veggies and herbs and stuff.
Tow huge runs of tables under a canopy. They have good stuff!
Just as I was done with all that and the watering--the Bonnie truck came and they put
out new flats of lots of stuff. I told the man--"You better water all the new pots--as I just
finished doing all the ones that were there..."

More carts of all kinds of stuff were being delivered all through the day.
EASTER stuff! Enough Palms to make a Forrest...

All the ASM's were setting up those black plastic tables all over. I asked--"What are those for?"
and they said "For Easter Stuff"...ALL because of Sherri's visit...Must look pretty!!!

You know what??? I will bring my camera tomorrow and take some pictures...

Of course--I will be watering many a thing all day again. My foot is so sore after today!

Gotta bake a cake tonight. We are having a bake sale tomorrow to raise funds for the
Employee Fund Committee (EFC)...

Sally--NO ONE gives donations any more just for the asking...
The asker has to submit a request on their organization's letterhead to the Home Office
in Atlanta. Then they will send a reply to the store and say what or how much is OK.

It is Another World--to you that do not work in Big Box Stores...
You do what you must--and be thankful that you have a decent (??) job.
I have been there 13 years now. Times sure have changed...

Gita

On to nicer thoughts--EASTER!!!!

I took my camera to work the other day and took pictures of a lot of the displays--
as well as regular plant areas. Will post a bunch here.....

1--This is the "Bonnie" Plants veggie and herb tables.
They have good stuff--even a lot of heirloom Tomatoes. Look for a sale this weekend--
buy two--get one free....

This is one of the Easter Plants display area near the check-Outs...
There are more in other places...

Here are the Gardenia Trees in the Greenhouse.
Sue, from Bell Nursery, is oblivious that I took this picture...
She is hauling like no tomorrow arranging all the plants....Love her! She has garden passion...

This is the left side of all the Tropical in the Greenhouse.
They moved ALL the plants near the windows. They used to be all over the back
side of the Greenhouse. Now they are in this confined area....It is hard to water these--
as it is so tight between the tables to get to everything......Small, small area--compared to
where they used to be. Now that "used to be" area is all grills and such. More $$$$$/sq. foot!

This is the right side.
NOT too much room for ll the plants we have--so they have to put them on carts...
Harder to water yet---as it is hard to get the watering wand between the shelves
on the cart. it is, kind of, a guessing game----"Am I above a pot or not???"

Here are all the 10" palms in the Vestibule---the entrance area between the main
door and entering the store. Plants do not do as well here--as there is a VERY
powerful heat vent blowing hot air on them. They dry out in a day or so.

To water all these--I have to put them on a flatbed cart and take them outside to the
hose area. Then let them drain a bit--and then take them back into the vestibule.
This amount of plants takes about 4 trips back and forth. Lots of time! YUP!!!