Oh ok. I remember now. Yes, I have been to PHOE. Got it bookmarked.
Judy Cook is amazing!
Thanks for that pic. I'm inspired.
Favorite angle wings?
Too many abbreviations at times.
Do you know what begonia that is in the pic of PHOE?
Here is a pic I took today of two of my favorites. I just got them this spring.
They aren't canes and maybe I will put them in a new thread. These types are one of my very favorites. The one on the left is Earl-ee-bee. The other is B. thiemei (macdougalii purpurea).
They appear to be rhizomatous. Would that be the correct category or is there maybe another like UJR which I hadn't heard of before?
OOPS...I got the names backwards. Sorry.
I bet you bought the Earl-ee-bee from GHW. Because that is what mine looks like from GHW. Anyway that is not Earl-ee-bee. I suspect it may be thiemei.
The one on the left looks like Carol Mac (or carolineifolia) and the one on the right thiemei.
UJR is rhizomatous but the growth can have stems like a cane or shrub and often defoliates back to the rhizome in winter or under stress.
My Earl-ee-bee is not growing like I hoped it would but here it is frpm last summer.
I may have gotten them from GHW. Thanks for the IDs. I meant is there another classification beside rhizomatous for these. Like maybe 'palmate rhizomatous' or something like that.
Good question but I've never seen it put that way. Typically they are put into a class (cane, rhizomatous, rex, etc), then they can be described in more detail. Check out the ABSASTRO site to get an idea on how they describe them. I think this is the way they also place them in shows for judging. Leaf shape is just a way to help ID them.
http://absastro.tripod.com/hclassmain.htm
hc, do you have any similar to those I posted? Palmate? Is that the correct term for the leaf shape?
Palmate is the correct term.
Yes, I have the same one from GHW sold as Earl-ee-bee. And I showed you the real Earl a post or two ago. Then I have luxurians (this is very fickle), carolineifolia, hemsleyana, u404 (looks like hemsleyana with color and silver dots, Carol Mac, Kissimmee, Aripeka, Redington Shores (this one is very different), Kit Jeans Mounger, hybrids from luxurians, Benitochiba, Emerald Star, and many others.
Here is one of my Earl-ee-bees NOT.
Beautiful! Are those outside?
Almost all of mine are outdoors. The exception are seedlings, terrarium plants, and a few cuttings too small to move out now (will later on) and two dreadful Escargot plants.
Here is Caribbean King, Maggie Nodal, and Bashful Bandit blended in with hellebores and hardy ferns. Maggie lost all its leaves late winter so it is a bit behind C. King but should catch up in another month or so.
So you use them sort of like bedding plants but keep them in pots? I have started planting some of my extra canes right in the ground and then next year I have a spot ready for a hosta or fern or whatever. I plant all my plants on berms of really good custom-made soil.
Yes, I place them outdoors in pots. There are pros and cons to planting in the ground as well as pots. In beds they should grow their best but that depends on soil and the weather. I planted some in beds last year and they did good but not as great as I thought they should. At least they didn't blow over like they would in pots and didn't dry out as fast. The bad thing is digging them up at the end of the year and potting up for indoors - that would be a monumental chore. If I were giving it to other people then I wouldn't mind growing in the ground - just dig them up and hand them off in a bag.
Keeping them in pots also allows me to move them to more shade or more sun depending on their growth and the weather conditions.
Here are a few rexes I have under tall trees. They get direct sun for up to an hour a day. If I decided they need more then I can move them out on the periphery of the trees.
A slit of sun coming through an opening in the trees at midday. Some begonias get full sun for 2 or more hours while others are very protected due to their size. As they mature I try to get them to more light so they put on a lot of growth before moving back indoors.
Those are beautiful pics. I am going to start putting more of mine outside. The ones I plant in the ground, the canes and fibrous, I just let freeze because I keep at least one if not two to overwinter in the house.