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Avalanche petunia white, getting big and ready to move up into my hanging baskets.
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Seed Starting in MA (Part 2)
I ordered Burgmansia seeds that were on sale in the fall from T&M. "Summer Sunrise". Out of 6 seeds I have theses 2 young starts, I potted them up this morning. I'm pretty happy with the results so far.
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I seeded most of my seeds about at least 3 weeks ago--maybe a bit more.
The Basils are small plants anyway till they really get going. I spent all day yesterday transplanting most of my seedlings--even the small Basils. All my Tomatoes, Daturas, ALL my baby Tiger Lilies, as well as the runners of my Greek Oregano (which I never really used at all--just dried some of it).
Everything is sitting outside out of direct light. Gotta watch it Fri. and sat. night. It will be in the upper 40's....
I was sitting outside from about 10:30AM until 5PM....Nice, relaxing work.
Sally and onewish---Here are my Basils last week. Small in size--as you can see. Barely 2 sets of true leaves.
Hope yours will catch up....
Gita
Both look good. Thanks for the new thread. My peas (outside) finally came up, and my lettuce, radishes spinach and red musard all did well germinating (outside).
Brief rain shower early this AM and mostly cloudy but warm now. Great for putting a few things on the deck.
Your baby Brugs look like Daturas- I think they are related. I have one pretty ugly (? ! ) Maya brug and one pretty pretty one from the two cuttings Gita gave me last year. The ugly one has a main stem /trunk that comes out at ground level on a weird angle, and some long stems at top above the Y. I'm thinkng I may make cuttings off the ugly one, it could stand to be pruned anyway.
Gita mine are barely the seed leaves so those look great
Sally,
You can always cut the "ugly" one way down and let it re-grow. It will put out new growth. That will take care of the "weird angle"--but you will have to wait for it to "Y" again. No biggie! They always do...just later in Summer.
You can still root the cut off stem, chopped up in 5"-6" pieces (keep "up" and "down" straight) and just stick them in some fresh soil as deep as you can......and wait....
OR---like in pruning Roses--look for a growth-bud facing the way you want the stem to grow and cut just above it.
OR---You can put in a sturdy stake and pull the whole thing straight.
You would achieve the same effect if you potted it up in such a way that the stem WAS straight up. Just the root ball would be slightly askew. No biggie! Brugs are next to indestructible.
YES! Brugs and Daturas were once lumped into the same category (see ABADS) but then got separated.
They are definitely related--and all parts of both are toxic if ingested.
My Brugs are still in the basement. I also have rooted cuttings on my windowsill from last Fall. One of the IS a Dr. Seuss I got from a friend----They are all growing.
I don't really want to haul them out yet, as when I do--they will get planted in their big pots and trimmed back as needed--if needed.
One of them--a "Rose Souvelons" (like the pink one I had) that I got from Chantelle (mis-labeled as a Dr. Seuss) has tremendous die-back. Hmmmm.....I should cut that one back NOW!
The other one I got from her (mis-labeled as a Charles Grimaldi) turned out to be a pink one with a beautiful, pendulous bloom. This one has a straight stem--the length of a broomstick--and nice leaves on top. I am wondering if I should just leave it that tall and have a nice "standard"????
The Maya came through the dormancy in a grandiose fashion! Nothing weird happened.
After you take your Brugs outside--plant in a large pot, harden them off a bit, , and then...water--water---feed--feed---and stand back! The growth will astound you!
Isn't Spring exciting??? Gita
nice babies!
Thanks Gita-- I did trim and root the tips today so I may end up fixing the momma one and then have babies too. Why not? practically free for the soil and fertilizer. My Rose Souvelons also had more tip dieback than Maya. But it is growing out now that it's up in my bedroom and getting woken up.
Thought I'd share a dirty picture! LOL Ric
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OH MY Goodness
where did you get those???? I want some, please dm me with the details.... I just saw some tonight at the greenhouse that I went to for a class and I so wanted to go back and ask the owner if she would sell me any....but I had a 44 lb bag of dog food and a new push lawn mower in the way of me putting that in the back of the truck which is probably why I didn't go ask about it....
I got some reg pro mix at HD and that stuff is out of this world great....so I would think that your might even be better...LOL
Janet
medowwyck, I get mine from an Amish greenhouse in Perry Co. If I were you I'd go back to your local greenhouse and see if they will sell you some. You can order it from Ace hardware, it's in their catalog, but they were charging $32-33 a bale. I get it from the Amish for about $24.
Premier Horticulture Inc. in Quaketown, Pa. 18951 is the local office. I will be contacting them about a possible Pa. distribution center for next year. I'd like to get a whole pallet (I think 30 bales) for local friends and associates. They have an a 1-800 424-2554 ext5 number if you want to see if there is a local distributor near you. I've used this stuff for 30 years with great results. The Penn State extension service had a recipe for a soiless mix we used to make that was comparitable, if you can find that, you may be able to reduce the volume to a home application, Ric http://www.premierhort.com/eProMix/index.htm
PS. I hope this was helpful!
Thanks so much Ric.
I'm going back this weekend to the greenhouse.
Don't know if we have an Ace around here, now back home in KY I went there a lot.
Sure do appreciate all the info and link.
Have a good day.
Janet
Nearly everything I sowed mid March has now come up and is fighting for space, will be needing some thinning out/transplanting here soon to bigger pots! Tonite I sowed Sweet Peas, Moon vines, Cannas & BES-vine - MG's are next on the list, soaking and getting them sowed - I'm thinking direct sowing, since they are known for not liking transplanting, guess I need to be a tad more patient with them and wait :-)
Spring IS exiting - received Freesia bulbs today, need to get them in the ground this weekend - the beds are cleaned up, ready for plants and mulched, thanks to DH, I've been "under the weather" for about a week now and not much good for anything - but, that's a whole 'nother matter...Samson has been good and left the seedlings alone, so this IS promising for the garden - he seems to be more interested in mulch and tree branches! ^_^
Bec--
If you have success with your BES Vines--and have an extra--I really want one or two for a planter up my Patio post....
The person who had seeds for this vine,. never made it to the Seed Swap. So--I don't have any.
I will look for it in the Nurseries i shop at.....
Also--what was it called??? "Blushing Suzy" vine? Need one or two of them too......
G.
If the BES- vine works out I'll keep one for ya ^_^
Getting what I think is a lot of damp off in my seedlings. Not sure why, I'm disappointed to say the least. Ric
bummer Ric... sorry to hear it
Ric, They say watering with chamomile tea helps prevent damping off. Did you use a good seed starting mix, and clean pots?
I have not had a problem with damping off since I started using a germinating mix from Gardeners Supply. I have been using their mix for about 12 years.
Poor Ric is right he wasn't at all happy. They had looked so good and then yesterday they started to die off.
There are some other plants that are doing well. He has a flat of Okra and herbs that is doing very well. The Okra is a bit leggy. The flat of climbers that I started is doing great. The Hyacinth Bean is growing great and already up potted. Cardinal Climbers are looking good and the Blushing Susie is starting to come up. YEAH. The Blushing Susie I got from R_R_R last year was a favorite of mine.
Hyacinth Bean
Chris, it was either the soil mix or the water, I used collected rain water, which maybe I should not have. Ric
That might have done it. Do you have time to sow the ones you have lost?
Holly,
Do you have a few seeds of the Blushing Suzy vine I could have?
I have back-to-back planters at one of the fat big patio poles that hold everything up.
The planter facing the back yard would get decent sun until late afternoon.
The planter facing the patio, would be in bright shade.
I have tried growing all kinds of things in these, but nothing really did well. Like Hyacinth bean, Moon Vine, a MG, etc...
Last year i decided that I wanted a BES vine facing the sunny side and something else, that would do well in a bit more shade, facing the inside of the patio. Does "Blushing Suzy" need full sun?
Any other suggestions for these 2 planters????
I'll run out and take a picture so you can see what's what.....This is looking at he patio (ignore all the 'stuff!")
And here is another shot--looking at a bi8t more different angle...
I would like something that flowers.....Will definitely look for the BES vine!
Got my photo descriptiona a bit mixed up. THIS one is looking AT the patio---the first one was looking AT the back yard. Right behind my shed--my yard ENDS! Not much are at all!
AND--just above both of these trellises--I hung my Hummer feeder and decorated it with some red silk flowers.....
Haven't seed a one yet! I guess they have to "find" me first....
See that wad of paper towels at the top of the chain? I sprayedd that really well with Home Defense---haven't seed ONE ant in the nectar yet!!!! Easily renewable!
Do you think the smell of this would keep the hummers away as well?
I really, really believe that they just are not used to feeding in this neighborhood. No one here feeds birds except me--at leas in my immediate neighborhood....
ALL and ANY advice welcome!!! Thanks, Gita
too early to tell but I might have a couple extra BES vines for you Gita
Gita,
I never saw a hummingbird here until I planted a whole bunch of Salvia Patens Gentian Sage. They are very blue, and need to be lifted here (which I did not do). I had red flowers years before but never saw a humming bird until these salvias came to my garden. I didn't lift OR save any seed. They need to be started a long time before putting them out. I'm debating whether I should buy them again. I have so much stuff that is waiting to get planted.
Gita, I think I only had a few Blushing Susie Seeds but I am happy to see them all coming up. As Jen said a bit early to tell but I should have some extra plants, for the swaps. I will look and see if I have any more seeds but I think I planted all of them. Last year mine was planted on the shadier side of the Gazebo. It did get sun for most of the day but later afternoon it would have been shaded. It looked really nice with the pot of Coleus sitting next to it.
Gita, my BES vines need all the sun that they can get, but there are definitely clematis that do well in the shade according to Evie of Blissful Gardens. Of course you don't get a great show the first year but there's nothing that beats these vines with their tiny leaves and great big blooms. I try to choose the ones that bloom most of the summer and have had good luck. There's a climbing hydrangea that one of my daughters has good luck with in the shade also.
RRR,
I have thought of a Clematis--just not sure how they would do in a pot--being perennials????
I need at least ONE clematis anyway in my bed...have an empty trellis sittingg there for a few years...
Thanks for your suggestions...G.
Gita, I have several clematis in pots - and they are doing great, year after year :)
I would love to get one of the two (or both) Estonian Clematis. They are so beautiful.....
--One is called "Piilu" (Little Duckling). VERY hardy--even in z-2. Double, bicolor/later single blooms, Beautiful!
--The other one is called Clematis "Miniseelik". This one is said to grow in z-4-11. and blooms from July-September. Pruning--3.
I got the picture of this one from the "Brushwood Nursery". I guess I should contact them??? WHY NOT? Google is the way to go!
I like the "Piilu" one much better.....
Gita
Brushwood is excellent for Clems, so is Joy Creek - I have a couple of the hardy Estonian ones & I just checked the ones I have growing in pots (about 15++), all growing strong and some have buds :) I have several planters with vines/roses - I just mulch them in winter and they come back every year :)
Bec--WOW! 15+Clematis????
SO! Which one do you like best????? Estonia is, almost, like my second "homeland"--as I was SOOO involved in all the Estonian life here for 25 years. My Ex is Estonian. What a partying, "UP", filled with great music/songs nation Estonia is!!!!
I made my own Estonian national dress (took 2 years--all that embroidering!) and folk-danced with them in all kinds of festivals and performances for 15 years.
I learned to play the 37-string Kannel (still have it) and all that.....A most memorable aspect of my life!
Now all in the past--just memories.....
Gita
how fun!!
Just checked all my seedlings and seems I've had 90% luck so far - some have still not sprouted, but they had long germination time listed on seed packs! 'Maters are big enough to transplant...I had some seeds come up after 2 days, I was soaking (and I forgot them), sowed them and they came up immediately!
here is my WS'ed germinated list... 15 left to go
http://davesgarden.com/community/journals/vbc/onewish1/85184/
Nice going Allison!
love seeing all of them popping up in the cups... and glad to be at the point to count which ones didn't germinate... Teri bad news on the aster seeds I gave you... so far nothing here... it was worth a shot though
edited.....
OOOPS! Douplicate Post!
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Well! The storm just hit! Winds and rain and some distant rumblings......
I barely finished--for the 4th time--to quickly bring in all that I could and stash the larger plants that I brought out yesterday in my shed....
This weather just HAS TO settle down!!!! Beautiful days--and killer nights. YUK!
Did you hear? Sat. to Sunday night temps in the 30's--again!!!!! Hope it is the last time!!!!
I took pictures of some of my growing seedlings. Would like to show you--as many of you also took these seeds.....
1--Here are the 2 Daturas......The purple/white one is stronger and bigger than the yellow one.....
Still--I am happy how they are growing.
