Clematis

I have seed for this:
http://www.parkseed.com/gardening/PD/0566/, although it's not exactly the same cultivar. I also could give you a rooted piece of the one pictured (sorry, it's a terrible photo). It was labeled Clematis tibetana ssp. vernayi

It helps to put the photo.

This is quite vigorous. It's the one I moved from the climbing rose to the red hazel. When I was in the garden this weekend, I noticed it still lives at the foot of the climbing rose. I can easily dig a piece for you if you like it. The seedheads are quite nice.

Wow. You never cease to amaze me, Melissa. Yes, I definitely want a piece of that. Do you remember if the purple is more purple or more blue? I want to combine it with something that will really provide contrast.

Thank you!

Has anyone had success with Florida Sieboldii? I have killed at least one in the past and am wondering if if is really hardy to Z 7. The pictures sure are pretty.

I have not. Did you ask on the Clematis forum? There are some pretty experienced gardeners there - I'm sure someone has it.

Melissa, I would love a start of Ville de Lyon. It is one that I have always liked, and I tried once in my yard but it perished (not it's fault... it was a tiny thing and the darn slugs munched it into nothingness... this was before I learned that tiny things need to go into pots for a while in my yard!).

I am trying to whittle down my list so Mom and I can make our Silver Star order today. I went through the website on two seperate occasions and made two seperate lists. I do this when I am ordering in bulk from a selection of certain plants as I find that what peaks my interest in two different moods is something that I want to try for sure, and allows me to re-evaluate things that I chose once but not twice. Is a list of 22 clems excessive? Some would think so. Back to whittling......

Rarejem. Oh how I wish I had room for more clematis. 22 is not excessive.

Go with 22. If this is what brings you joy . . .

Last season I put a ring of rocks around the clematis base (where they're not protected from an inadvertent paw step by shrubs) to protect that vulnerable point. I think I might also try to add a layer of gravel over top to slow down the slugs a bit so I have time to pick them off . . .

Thanks for the vote of confidence guys, but I did manage to get my list down to 11 that I couldn't live without. I even know where almost every one of them is going to go! And 11 is nothing I am telling myself... I have planted over 30 roses in one season, over 50 daylilies in one season... 11 clems is complete self restraint!

Coming to my garden soon:
Arabella
Avantgarde Viticella
Betty Corning
Blue Dancer
Bourbon
Chinook
Constance
Daniel Deronda
Montana Wilsonii
Purpurea Plena
Rooguchi and
Royalty.

Very nice. No Honey Buns?

Adorable, but out of stock!

Probably a good thing for those of us who have a few Honey Buns already, eh?

Probably. Besides, I don't think my property is very "lowrider friendly".... too many things to high center on!

That "I hates it when I steps on my ears" kinda trouble?

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**giggling** Yup, that's the kind.

Kathy and Julie, they are yours. Glad to oblige. I will pot them. Kathy, the contrast on the outside of the bell is on the reddish purple side.

Julie, 11 clematis shows great restraint! Blue Dancer is on my list, too.

And now, at the risk of breaking the bank, I must tell you that Snowpeak Iris is having a 'clearing out all daylilies' sale. She is not going to be selling dayliles anymore. She has some very good deals. I have placed an order. Sigh.
http://snowpeakiris.com/newweb/Daylilly%20Clearance%20Sale.html

The bad thing about voles is that they eat my plants. The good thing about voles is that I then have to buy more plants. Bad voles. Good voles.

I splurged for Frank's Fire Opal. Have you seen his stuff? A bit on the pricey side for me considering as much as I enjoy daylilies, I'm not 'into' them like collectors are. Still, some of his plants look like they come from another planet.
http://franksmithdaylilies.com/galleries/all_intros.htm

So here is what I ordered. Are there any losers on the list?

Franks Fire Opal,
2. Druids Chant,
3. Respighi,
4. Sea Urchin,
5. Wolf Eyes,
6. Paint the Town Red,
7. Orchid Candy,
8. Isle of zanzibar,


It was really hard to choose. I needed some purples so I tried to stick with those. I'm planning to put some at the feet of some clematis (just to bring it around to the thread, you know...). I traded with someone for what was supposed to be 'little grapette' two years ago. Turns out NOT so much little grape as Little orange thingy. Cute, but completely wrong.

I have: Druids Chant (love it... it is a chameleon and will have very different faces depending on the weather so keep that in mind if you are disapointed in it's first show). Respighi (a huge show stopper... I am using it in my breeding program). I am wondering if Sea Urchin is in fact Spiny Sea Urchin... a few of hers had slight oopses in their names...that is the only one I would question as we really don't get teeth here, but I have SSU and still really like it for the colors, even if mine doesn't get the "toothy" look. Paint the Town Red was new for me last year and is an incredible daylily (posted a pic on one of the recend threads... the must have's I think). Have friends that rave about Isle of Zanzibar and Wolf Eyes too, so sounds like you did well!

BTW... Make your Silver Star clem order soon because Debbie said that she was getting low on a couple of the ones that I ordered and IMHO there is nothing worse than whittling down a list and then hearing "sold out" and having to start the process over again!

I am off to look at the site again. Sigh.... it is hard to decide. I want too many. I guess I will just have to want in one hand.....

I am still waiting to hear back from Debbie about cultivars she recommends for my shed. I guess I can narrow down my other choices, though. Thanks for letting me know. The 100$ here and 100$ there are starting to add up. And I just told my DH that I wasn't 'high maintenance'. As long as I could buy plants I was happy. I just didn't say how MANY plants I needed to buy.

Hey Pix - I found a list for you - quite a few varieties here:
http://www.clematisinternational.com/growing.html#pg5

My own experience is they flower best when they receive 3 or more hours of morning sun.
Otherwise, you get more foliage & while that's nice, I prefer to grow them for the flowers.
My Wada's Primrose has not flowered in the shade (2 hours a.m. & a couple hours p.m. sun); moving that one soon to full sun with a support.

This one is in the shade, always heading up the garden fence reaching for the Wisteria.

Just ordered Asao, Princess Diana, Vyvyan Pennell and I also got an Avante Guarde for my friend.
I had 2 Niobes and a red Cardinal that I gave to my sister in law. They were great but the color was too redish-wine for me.
My yard is small and I just don't have room for everything I want.

Mstish, I really wanted Asao as well, but Mom decided to order that one, so that helped me shrink my list as well (cuttings here we come!). At least a small yard keeps your spending in check!

Melissa, we NEVER tell how much we spend in the garden! DH just walks through and sees how lovely it is, and knows that I am always at home playing in the dirt rather than getting in trouble, so he is content. Then again, I never question how much $$ he spends on tools.......

Gary and I long ago agreed that I could spend as much on plants as he does on golf, and vice versa. Works wonderfully. As he heads out for the links, I yell out, "Get a cart!" Then off I go with the pickup to the nursery. We each spend a lovely day outside, and are rested and happy to see one another for drinks on the back deck.

He never questions me. He doesn't care at all and he enjoys the garden. His mother is a gardener and her yard is always on the 'garden tour' in the town where he grew up, so he is used to it from childhood. I just try to keep myself in check. I guess this year, so far, it isn't working out. HA! And the year isn't really started yet. I'm going to have to think vewwy vewwy cawfuwwllly about those clematis...

Bonehead you are funny. Get a cart - LOL!
Mstish I understand the small garden dilemma. I have the same problem!

LOL, Pixydish. My husband and I have the same agreement. Only his weakness is drowning worms (he calls it fishing). Sometimes I wish he was into gardening but then I realize I wouldn’t be able to design and plant and change things the way I want them to be, I’d have to share those decisions with him. Wow, that sounds really stingy when I write it out in words.

Well, mstish, being single, I feel the same way. Yes, I DO have to do everything and make every decision by myself, which can be difficult. But I get to have my own way ALL the time and I try not to forget that.

Ok, here is my Clematis Wish List:
Arctic Queen
Avante-Garde vitacella
Bee's Jubilee
Bourbon
Crystal Fountain
Dominika
Durandi
Etoile Violette vitacella
Fireworks
Florida Sieboldi
Guernsey Cream
Lady Betty Belfour
Liberation
Margaret Hunt
Minuet vitacella
Montana wilsonii
Multi Blue
Sugar Candy
Truernata Rubromarginot
Ville de Lyon
Princess Di

Lynn you've gone over the edge: you're a bonafide clem addict!
Next on the list - procure some trellises (trellii?) for your babies to grow on.
Several of your selections will need ample room. Trust me, I learned the hard way...

I have a couple of established (7') elderberry bushes I was going to dig out, but now I plan on running clematis vines up through them. For once it was good that I hadn't yet gotten around to something . . .

I cleaned out my gully garden (a thin planting area at the lip of a steep wooded drop at the edge of my front lawn) yesterday and was about to chop to the ground a fruit coctail tree that had perished when it's roots sloughed with the flooding last January, when I caught myself and thought "wait"! It has one tall branch that reaches skyward and touches the draping boughs of the cedar tree behind it. What an awesome place for a clem that grows and grows! Montana wilsonii is destined to have a "fruit coctail tree leading into a 75' cedar tree" trellis!

"Yes, I DO have to do everything and make every decision by myself, which can be difficult. But I get to have my own way ALL the time and I try not to forget that."

Ditto!

Julie - that's perfect. It'll be so dramatic.

Judi - you and I seem to be in parallel places right now . . .

It sounds heavenly, Julie.

Lynn, are you planning to order all of those or are you currently going through the narrowing-down process? I found that to do that I did a cut and paste to my pictures so that I could look at all of the candidates at once. That helped.

It sounds heavenly katie and Portland.^_^