Tropical Garden #62

zone 6a, KY

Well, hopefully more will put back out than not. I'm sorry to hear about your granddaughter being attacked. Is she okay?

noonamah, Australia

I put my Amorphophallus galbra seeds in one large pot some time ago. Then a pair of Jungle Fowl came along, ripping up the garden as they like to do. They got into the pot and scratched some of the soil out. I put as much back in as I could. The plants have sprouted but there's more growing out of the pot than in it.

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noonamah, Australia

I'd guessed you might have been busy with the clean up, but the injury to your granddaughter would have been very worrying. You have to be very careful where there's possibility of infection. Hopefully she's coming good.

Haven't got the seeds yet but because I'm remote it can take a while for me to collect mail. Will be there tomorrow night and hopefully the postal service will have done their job. Planting out the seeds now would still give them a lot of time to develop before the end of the season.

That is what I was thinking, just so rushed right now running around to try and help them is just took a toll on my mind for remembering stuff. She is much better today. They live an hour away from me, but the car broke down and they have no way to go right now. I took the car to the shop the day she got bit and so hopefully it will get fixed soon. It was a pit bull and runs the neighborhood and even the owners are scared of it and can't catch it. It growls at people and a month ago it killed their land lords colt he had tied in his barn one night and he was devistated. They live out in the county and no one enforces the law out there unless you are rich big wheel with pull. I get so agrivated with the law. It doesn't apply to everyone.
It almost took her arm off. But today the redness was going away and it looked like it was starting to try to heal. She is a tiny little petite thing for her age. She is 12 years old, and when she started screaming, her dog ran out and jumped the pit and it turned her lose to attack the dog. But the dog is ok too. It got cut some but not bad for a pit attack.
I'm going to introduce the pit to mr. smith and wesson as soon as I find it again. It will be taken care of, before it kills someone.

noonamah, Australia

Pit Bulls are a contentious issue here too, most people want them banned. But if any cause injury the police put them down automatically, there's no allowances or excuses made.

Edited to correct typo.

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zone 6a, KY

Tropic, I hope that is where you wanted to grow them, as they seem to have sprouted where they were planted, lol.

Aw mekos, that is terrible. I would want to put the pitbull down too, if it were me. That should have never happened. I wouldn't want to ban pitbulls, but people should take a training course before they get one. I hope she recovers without too much scarring, emotional included.

I know all of the dogs are not bad and if properly cared for this one may have been better but it has been allowed to run havak and not been cared for and I believe it is too far gone to retrain. There are laws here too for dangerous dogs but they only enforce them if you live in town limits or rich enough to cause problems if they don't enforce them. We live so far out in the boonies, it doesn't matter what kind of animal it is, it's all the same to them.
She is trying to keep a clear head and she really loves her dog. It has a front club foot and such a short little dog, it gets around on 3 legs since the front leg is deformed so bad. It loves her and tries to take care of her. It will all work out in the end. The dog roams around looking for food and bullying the other dogs and it is dangerous. My son talked to the owner and told him to put it up but he is afraid of it since it growled at him a while back and says he can't catch it. So it does need to be destroyed, not out of anger but to protect the other kids out there playing all around before it hurts one smaller that may not have help around.

noonamah, Australia

Believe you me 3jsmom31, Jungle Fowl are not good gardeners, although they are experts at turning over compost, and pots, and plants ....... ;O)

Very beautiful bloom on a Sansevieria this morning. Also very sweetly fragrant, like honeysuckle.

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zone 6a, KY

Jungle fowl are chickens? Oh, well at least they are pretty, lol.... I know they are not nice to a garden. I raised a turkey one year and had to sneak to get a raspberry. He was really nice to have along when we went pick blackberries though. If we kept an eye on him, he'd tell us if there was a snake around. He wasn't half as scratchy as chickens are, though. Do the jungle fowl fly well?

Mekos, a really good dog trainer could get into that animals head and help him understand his role, but short of that, you are right, an average person wouldn't know how to help him. And you are also right in that he is a danger to animals and people until he finds a good trainer or finds his demise.

Dutchlady, what a pretty sansevieria bloom. Is your yarden recovering?

Metrosideros, that was interesting to learn the different roles played by a single tree. Thank you.

My garden has mostly leaf damage which is ugly but nothing awful. I regret that I didn't protect some of my bigger bromeliads; I have two specimen Alcantareas that have brown leaves, such a shame since it will probably take a year before they look good again.
I've been raking leaves this morning! How strange.

noonamah, Australia

3jsmom31, the correct name for them is Orange-footed Scrubfowl, Megapodius reinwardt, but Jungle fowl is shorter. Birdwatchers get upset if you use the wrong name. They're larger than a bantam, but about the size of small ordinary poultry.

Dutchlady, my Sansevieria flowers in the dry season when it's coldest. Fills the whole place with a sweet fragrance.

Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

All that talk about Dave's Ohi'a trees made me hungry and I broke out my last jar of creamy Ohi'a honey. YUM

Love the Metrosideros bloom's Dave but I have to add that I have never heard of the plant Cyanea tritomantha.

3jsmom, great find on your new plant's and Tropic, sound' like you have alot of patience with those "scrubfowl";-)

Hetty, that is a real beauty of a bloom on your Sansevieria. Perhap's you would like to use that picture and start a new thread? This one is getting quite long.


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Keaau, HI

Hi Rachel!

Cyanea are rare Lobeliads (Campanulaceae) which are found in old growth forest, in Hawai'i.

Here is another Lobeliad from the Saddle Road on Hawai'i Island.

Clermontia montis-loa

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Very interesting and quite beautiful! Have you added the plant's to Plantfile's database yet? If not, please do. What is the cause of the Cyanea being "rare"?



Keaau, HI

This is Clermontia lindseyana from the Kilauea Forest. A Listed Endangered species.

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I see you have added the plant's in the plantfile's database and thank's for adding them here as well. You are a tremendous "tool" of knowledge that we can all learn from.

Keaau, HI

Hey Rachel!

The cause of Lobeliads being rare in Hawaiian forests is due to feral pigs most recently, and cattle in the past.

This photo it sideways, but it is Cyanea pilosa subsp. longipedunculata, from the 'Ola'a Forest Reserve.

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Dandridge, TN(Zone 6a)

One of my Plumerias is confused and blooming now...

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Keaau, HI

Thanks Rachel! I hope I can share a few Hawaiian plants with everybody. Hawai'i's rare plants, and fragile habitats are my main concern. Protecting the diversity of species is good for everyones' health.

This is Clermontia parviflora, the most common Lobeliad in Old Growth Hawaiian Rainforests.

Ten years ago (the late 1990's) these plants were common in old growth rainforest. Now they are hard to find.












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The pleasure is all our's!!

Thank YOU for sharing.

Nice Plumeria bloom Lakesidecallas;-)

Keaau, HI

The small bloom of Clermontia parviflora.

Hawaiians called this plant 'Oha Wai.

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Dandridge, TN(Zone 6a)

Yes, thank you for sharing your photos of these plants, I will probably never make it to Hawaii so it is nice to see them here.

Keaau, HI

Hey Lakesidecallas, is that Plumeria a houseplant?

Here are ranchlands near Kulani, where old growth 'Ohi'a once stood. The forests here were likely cleared to make railroad ties for the early American railroad.

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Keaau, HI

Hawai'i Island still contains about half of it's original forests. It has the majority of the forest reserves in the State of Hawai'i.

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Dandridge, TN(Zone 6a)

The plumeria is in the greenhouse. It grew from a cutting I got in a DG co-op. They don't have names, only pink, red, yellow, etc. I have several more that aren't doing anything but this one is just flowering for all it's worth. Makes me feel like I'm in the tropics! Until I see your photos.... hee hee.

My sister and b-i-l went to Kauai, and he shot mostly black and white film!!! Granted, some beach huts did look kind of neat, but STILL!

Keaau, HI

Here is the Hilo coast, yesterday.

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zone 6a, KY

Rachel, which ??locasia is that from 9:25 last night? Pretty, and I was guessing sarian. How far off am I? Thanks about the plants. I thought they were sort of neat. Everyone is fine but the arrowhead is a little wilty looking, I put it is just damp soil, so we shall see.

Metro, look at you go. Very scenic area. Where I live the hills are too close, the scenic shots you have to climb for, first the hills, then the trees, lol. Your farm security team is similar to the service we employ. It costs us an amount of dog food a week, lol. That is very cool to wind down with your guitar. I liked the shot with you and your babies in front of the flower bed. Pretty.

Lakesidecallas: What a beautiful color your plumeria is :)

The only blooms I have are some begonias and a geranium. It is still wonderful as I can tell that the plants are getting geared up for spring. Just looking a little more awake :). I have a lot of repotting to do. Sigh.

zone 6a, KY

Dave, Hilo Coast is so pretty.

Red Oak, TX

I would like to join everyone in saying that this has been the most enjoyable thread. I hated to see the damage to Rj's garden and that Mekos GD was bitten by a pit bull. I hope she is doing well.

I will start a new thread #63. This one is too long.


Colocasia MoJito

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Keaau, HI

Bring me them dogs Mekos! I can make them your best friends.

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Keaau, HI

With a little bit of love and kindness, them dogs will treat you right!

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Keaau, HI

Dogs only act badly when they are not treated well.

They naturally want to make you happy!

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Keaau, HI

Dogs are only bad, when they are raised by bad humans. There is no bad breed of dogs!

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Keaau, HI

When dogs are given love, they give love back!

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Keaau, HI

There are no bad dogs.

There are bad humans!

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Keaau, HI

Let's all get along together!

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Keaau, HI

I promise to be a good neighbor, and raise all my kin that way.

That's good religion!

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zone 6a, KY

You are so right about bad owners. What a shame that a child was hurt by these people that haven't a clue about dogs, or just don't care. And you are right, the dog is redeemable, but only with someone that understands dogs very well. You have my vote, Dave.

How is your granddaughter doing, mekos?

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