Winter Vines

Lakeland, FL(Zone 10a)

Some of my winter vines are either getting ready to or have started to bloom. The 1st started a couple weeks ago

Camptosema grandiflora

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Lakeland, FL(Zone 10a)

This is a woody vine, I have it growing on a large pergola.

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Lakeland, FL(Zone 10a)

I noticed this is not listed in plant files; I will have to add it. As can be seen here it is in Fabaceae.

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Lakeland, FL(Zone 10a)

This is another that is not in plants files. The genus is the species is not. This is Bauhinia sirindhorniae. This is not flowering (it needs to be huge to do that) but I love the foliage. It has the typical Bauhinia leaf but they are pointed, not having the typical rounded ends so often seen in Bauhinia. The leaves are shiny and the new leaves begin with a vibrant orange color.


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Lakeland, FL(Zone 10a)

The flowers, when they come, are the same orange color as the new leaves. I am happy with the leaves, the plant is very vigorous and displays lots of orange all year. Here it is the end of December & there are new orange leaves everywhere.

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Oh that Camptosema is beautiful. Is it very invasive? I have a pergola to cover...

Lakeland, FL(Zone 10a)

It does not seem to be invasive. It is a good grower and looks great on a pergola. I have not seen it set any seeds.
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I will be looking for one! I am also very partial to things that bloom inthe winter. In the summer my plumeria keep me happy enough.

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Nice vines. I really like all sorts. It's an unlucky winter here, the winter bloomers got nipped in the bud early this year by a freak snow followed by freeze. I spent all day yesterday chopping down Hawaiian woodrose, Chalice vine, and Beaumontia murtonii - all large woody vines. I figured I'd take advantage of trimming them since it's easier without leaves.
Do you have a lot of vines?
Rj

Lakeland, FL(Zone 10a)

I have tons of vines, it is one of the (many) types of plants I like to grow. I have a large pergola that the Camptosema shares with Thunbergia mysorensis. The Camptosema is at one end, the Thunbergia is at the other and they mix at the top.

I was wondering how your area fared with all that lousy weather this winter. I have many winter flowering vines that can take a nasty hit if it gets too cold. I have a rare Clerodendrum vine just coming into bloom. It looks like both my Beaumontia, grandiflora & murtonii, are starting to set buds. My variegated Solandra maxima just started a large flush of beautiful new purple growth, another nice burst of color. I have several species of Combretum that will flower later in winter/early spring. The red Holmskioldia is plastered with flowers from fall to spring. Oxera pulchella will bloom for my later this winter. That vine is way underutilized in my opinion, it is gorgeous in bloom. Tecomanthe will also bloom about the same time. My strongylodon should bloom this year or next, again a winter vine.

david

I have vine envy now ...... ^_^

Lee's Summit, MO(Zone 6a)

Ohhh, me too!

Lee's Summit, MO(Zone 6a)

I found it for sale online at:

http://www.woodlanders.net/index.cfm?fuseaction=plants.main&alphaKey=C&whichName=genus&showIntro=0

I would order it, but don't want to pay $15 for shipping.

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Yep serious vine envy here too. It definitely puts my collection to shame.

It's not the same species, though.

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Kay is that a variation on what popper has posted? Did you find any pictures of it?

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Kay here it is although they are out of stock on it.
http://www.kartuz.com/p/80124/Camptosema+grandiflora.html

(Zone 1)

Popper: Wow! That is a beauty! I found a listing in Plant Files: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/189908/ but no photo's as yet. I hope you will add a few of your beautiful pictures for that plant! I've never heard of this woody vine and it sure is gorgeous!

The only vine I have blooming is Tecomaria capensis ("Cape Honeysuckle") and it is extremely invasive!

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(Zone 1)

Popper: I'd love to know if any of the vines you listed in your above post are invasive. I'd love to find a few flowering vines that won't end up taking over the yard like the Tecomaria has in the past.

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Sounds like we have similar taste for vines David.
Yeah, that freak weather we had would have been fine if it was in Jan, but it buggerd all of the winter blooming things. The Solandras and Murtonii defoliated, but the vines themselves seem undammaged, oddly the B. Grandiflora wasn't phased.

My Tecomanthe seemed to be protected, but it's a toss up whether it will bloom or not. I experimented and planted a couple of strongylodon in the ground, and surprisingly they both fared better than some other vines (though the locations were well thought out because of that fact)- Still, I have to be careful what I wish for, ie that Hawaiian Woodrose exceeded far beyond what I anticipated.

Is the Clerodendrum a woody vine? I'm a Clerodendrum fanatic, what is the name of it?

and....how large are the Oxera pulchella blooms?

Rj




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Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

LOL Randy I already googled cleo vine but could not figure out which he was talking about I also have an -email in to see if Oxera is going to be available. I am wondering now if I could not try a B. Grandiflora here. I was aways worried abut it handling the cold.

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

LOL..I know there are some Clerodendrum vines from parts of Africa, but typically not seen for sale here.
I think you could grow the B. Grandiflora- It tolerates cold rather well. In fact, if the winter is too warm it has a lousy bloom cycle as it needs a period of cool/cold preceding the blooms in early spring.

The Murtonii is suppose to bloom repeatedly as opposed to the once a year like the B. grandiflora- but, I only saw one flush on the murtonii last year. It could be that it needs to be more mature..I don't know much about that one. Last year was it's first bloom. 3 years from the time I planted it.

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Well I am off to see if I can find a B. grandiflora anywhere. Have you tried growing the yucatan daisy yet?

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Ok where did you get your Bauhinia sirindhorniae? I am growing yunnanensis & corymbosa

Lee's Summit, MO(Zone 6a)

Randy, don't you have a huge Beaumontia grandiflora growing in your yard?

Lee's Summit, MO(Zone 6a)

I jsut spoke with a Kartuz employee, who said he just stuck cuttings for T. mysorensis and Camptosema grandiflora. They will be ready to sell, in 3" pots, in a couple of months.

Lakeland, FL(Zone 10a)

The only place I have seen the Camptosema is kartuz. Woodlands is a different species, grandiflora is evergreen & from Brazil. I added it to plantfiles today (Camptosema wasn't even listed as a genus yet) and have since posted the same pics there. I have also seen a purple flowered one.

plantladylin-None of these are invasive, most are tropical or close to it. I have not seen any produce seed. Some of my summer flowering vines have produced seeds.

marieortiz-I don't remember where I got the B. sirindhorniae. (my new years resolution, per Dave's question this week, is to keep better records!) I am going to try & root this spring, i'll keep you in mind, or better yet email me in a few months. Most of my stuff is next to impossible to find, i see it once & get it & never see it again. Bauhinia vines are awesome. Some other real rare ones I have are bidentata, kockinana, and aureifolia.

RJ-

Vines are awesome, one of the 1st things I really got into. They can take up a lot of room though. To get many looking their best they really need to get big. Pergolas are a great way to show many of them off and i plan on adding more. Sharing them can work great with planning. Camptosema puts on the show in the winter, T mysorensis (definately one of the best) takes over in the warm months. One of the high points with mysorensis is that it blooms almost continuously once it gets big.

Oxera blooms are about 2" or so with the stamens, they stick out pretty far. It is a heavy producer and is just wonderful.

Tecomanthe is fantastic, the flowers are huge and unforgettable. Once the vine gets some size they are very heavy producers, particularly Roaring Meg Creek.

Here are some pics of the Clerodendrum. Sorry about the pic quality, I am a lousy photographer. It is woody, nor of a shrubby vine. It does not as strongly vining in its growth habit as say thomsoniae, but not as bushy as paniculatum.


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So much great info. Since I just built a pergola it will be great to get some vines on there. I have a Jade vine ready to go in the ground, and would love to add a Camptosema. I need winter bloomers!

Lakeland, FL(Zone 10a)

The name is Clerodendrum smithianum. The flowers look like the typical clerodendrum flower, 5 petals with protruding stamens. Like C inciscum, it is the buds that are cool. While C inciscum is the musical note plant, this one is the light bulb plant. The unopen flower buds look like little light bulbs. The plant gets a lot of long, hanging panicles with the buds hanging like little lights on a chandelier. It is a heavy bloomer, even when small. I have a few cuttings in 1 gal pots that are maybe 10" tall and have 3 or 4 inflorescences each. My larger one has many and is awesome.

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Lakeland, FL(Zone 10a)

Thanks Dutchlady. I love my vines. Strongylodon looks amazing on a pergola. Mucuna and Camptosema like wise are great. Thunberrgia mysorensis starts flowering in late winter/early spring and is one of the best on a pergola. It also has a much loner blooming season. I just started some cuttings of that too.

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Popper I will take you up on that offer expecially if I do not end up hunting one down some where. That Clerodendrum smithianum is way cool and not one I have seen before. I really need to move some place with just a little more humidity......

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

There are no pictures of Clerodendrum smithianum you should add yours.

Lakeland, FL(Zone 10a)

I just added the plant & pics this AM. I guess they look at the pics before they are added to Plantfiles. I just added the C smithianum pics to Plantfiles too. I guess they will be up tomorrow.

The Bauhinia is a tough one to locate. Be sure to email me if you can't locate. I will most likely forget. :-)

dp

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

I haven't tried the Yucantan Daisy yet. I suppose in the end, a freeze was a good thing, because there was no room to jam another thing in.

Kay, yes I sure do have a fairly large Beaumontia Grandiflora in the front garden. I made a horizontal trellis, and hung it from the eve of the roof, and it seems to like the spot rather well.

Thanks for the info Dave. I was just looking at a giant pergola this weekend. Your right some of these woody vines need something like that. I have vines on the fences, growing up chains in to the tree, hanging from the roof, and from cattle panel fencing hanging off the side of the green house. I wished one of the arboretums would create a total vine garden, in the meantime I keep trying here!

Lee's Summit, MO(Zone 6a)

RJ, I wish I could put my B. grandiflora in the ground, but being zone 8b with micros of 9a, I am just afraid it would kill it - what do you think?

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

They are about the same tolerance as the Solandra vines- do you have any of those in the ground?
If it frosts more than a couple of times during the winter, I'd probably keep it in the pot. If it were me, I would take a cutting of it, and put it in the ground.

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

I love the yucatan daisy mine start blooming the end of Nov and will continue on until at least feb or March. The scent is so delicate. I love walking out the front door and into it's fragrance.

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

wow...so is it a vine then?

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

yep and it is a monster. It seems to have no problems with the heat here nor the cold.

This is not the prettiest picture. it was right after our first freeze but you can see how large it is. It has been cut back several time this year not real hard but this was put in the ground about 15 months ago and was maybe 4-5 inches high. The wndow you see is an attic window.

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Lakeland, FL(Zone 10a)

Do you have that Clerodendrum RJ?

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