Plumeria rubra grown from seed....

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

Hello & Good morning everyone~!!
Quite some time ago I recieved Plumeria/Frangipani rubra seeds as a gift for Christmas. I haven't the slightest clue as to what color the bloom will be, but I am very proud of myself for keeping this plant going for so long.

Since I am pretty new at growing these plants, I can see or it looks as though it has 3 more shoots that will begin to take form next spring. Is this correct?

I'll try to show you a close-up photo that I took of it.

Please let me know....
BARRY SEWALL
Larsen, WI

Yuma, AZ

Without the picture it is hard to tell what you are taliking about. I am sure someone will be able to help when you post a pic.
Davie

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

Here is what I was referring to. I do have a more close-up photo of the top portion of the plumeria.

Barry

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You have a bloom stalk (inflorescence or inflo) starting, and the plant will branch in three.... congratulations!! Keep it warm.

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

DUTCHLADY,
Can you explain what a Bloom stalk is along with the Inflorescents or inflo? Is this good to have as well? This plant has to be atleast 7 or so years old.

Just thought I'd add a photo of my Bromiliad plants which has nothing to do with our referance.

Thanks much!!
BARRY SEWALL

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The little pencil looking thing in the middle of the tip of your plant is the bloom stalk = inflorescence = inflo.
This is a good thing : it means you will have flowers!
It will eventually end up looking like this - then you will have flowers very soon.

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North of Atlanta, GA(Zone 8a)

Also, it it could take up to 3-4 weeks to go from inflo to flowers.

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

Is there anything that I can feed the plant to induce blooming besides feeding it a higher phosphate fertilizer?

Barry Sewall

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Barry, it may benefit from a larger pot with more room to spread its roots. And in your climate you will almost certainly need supplemental light and give it as much heat as you can.

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

What should I do if I have atleast 6 to 7 leaves on the top of my plant when I've read that most of the leaves drop during the dormant period?

BARRY SEWALL

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North of Atlanta, GA(Zone 8a)

They will drop off when they're ready.

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

If I repot my Plumeria now, what should I expect after I repot it? Its cold in this area of the U.S. so I wouldn't think that repoting it will do anything for it. If I do repot my plant will I expect it to bloom during the late spring or early summer months (if thats the case)?

BARRY SEWALL

Tucson, AZ

barry - under what conditions is your plumeria in inside that room?

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

Its located in my living room on the S. side of the duplex I'm living in. The south side of the house gets the most sun anywere else. This area is the only place for me to keep any type of ornamental houseplant.

Barry Sewall

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

My Plumeria is doing just fine sitting near a South facing glass sliding door. It should get the most amount of light during the day as possible inside, but if it was summertime it would be soaking in the sun outside on my walk-out patio.

Barry Sewall

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Tucson, AZ

do you still water it?

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

Yes, should I not water?

Tucson, AZ

what temp range does your plumeria experience while in that room?

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

I keep the temperature above 60 degrees.

Tucson, AZ

so, while it's cold it that part of the states, you're plumeria is no where experiencing a wisconson winter. LOL therefore, it can probably benefit from repotting and a tad bit of water now and then until it is outside.

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

Would it be beneficial to repot it now, before the spring arrives?

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

If I don't have any idea what species of plumeria I have, can someone else from DG distinguish species of plant I have from a flower?

Let me know please....
Barrysewall

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Tucson, AZ

you have a rubra species.

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

Ok, although when it flowers (which will most likely be this coming summer) will someone be able to explain what type of Rubra plumeria I might have? In other words, do Plumeria rubra plants have the same colored flower?

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Tucson, AZ

you grew it from seed. therefore, it is not a specific variety. it is a seedling of the seed parent. for example, if the seed came from aztec gold one would say that it is a seedling of aztec gold. however, it is not aztec gold just like your child is not you but instead a seedling of you. LOL

Plumiedelphia, PA(Zone 7a)

repotting during dormancy is fine
Pruning is not!!
When she awakens (3 sets of leaves) feed 20-20-20
2 weeks later start bloom booster and super thrive, you should have blooms by fall ;)
good luck!!

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

I've ordered several Plumeria seeds from Plumeria Paradise, and since the weather up in the north part of the U.S. doesn't start warming up until about May I was curious to know when I should start planting these seeds.

Let me know please....
THANX

Tucson, AZ

do you recall when you started the first seeds? you might just want to repeat what you did before. looks like you were successful.

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

Unfortunitely, the first time I ever even considered the attempt to grow a Plumeria seed had to have been mabe 6 or 7 years ago. So I'm not real sure if it was Spring/Summer/ or Fall. Should have took notes.

*Barry*

Tucson, AZ

haha! okay, just trying to jog your memory. : )

you can start them at anytime! here is the thing though. you need to supply them with heat and light and obviously nutrients if conditions are not ideal outside. yeah, it's winter outside but my plumeria don't really know that. actually, they might be a tad confused. soil temps are 80º or higher because they are on the heat mat. however, air temp is in the 60s. they don't get direct sunlight. only light from a north facing window and a supposed plant light that is on from 4p - 3a.

this is what i was telling you regarding your plumeria that is in the house. it might be frigid outside but you can set up conditions for your plants inside that will keep them growing.

i am getting new leaves on the plumeria that are on the heat mat. i have a attached a pic showing the set-up (partially). pic was actually to show someone the paper whites that were grown entirely in the house. even the coconut palm in the corner is pushing out a new leaf.

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Plumiedelphia, PA(Zone 7a)

Good info Tuscon ;)
I start them relying 100% on artificial support.
I use a heat pad (a proper one for plants not a heat blanket)
fluorescent lights and nutrients.
Rooting temps 90+ degrees F
Lights 1/2 inch above seeds then 1 inch above sprouts at all times until moved outside
Use the broad spectrum bulbs that say 'outdoor' on them
when they have their third set of true leaves feed 20-20-20 @ 1/4 strength
Stronger mixes could kill them with root burn.
Use an oscillating fan to blow them back and forth thus making the trunks strong and thick
it also helps repel most bugs.
spray once a day with a mister or spray bottle to help the leaves absorb water.
Ive raised hundreds of seedlings successfully and know you can do it if you follow the good advice everyone has given you.
I knew nothing when I started and today would venture to start the most difficult of varieties as im now set up with the right equipment (mentioned) to create the perfect environment for them.
Warning: DO NOT treat your soil for bugs prior to germination, this could lead to seed failure.
Use sterile seed starting mix or perlite to get em going.
Transplant them when the roots reach the bottom of your container
I use 8 oz Styrofoam cups.
The are easy to punch holes in and cheap
if you reuse them then be sure to wash them with soap and water then a touch of bleach in water rinse (or peroxide) to kill pathogens.

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

Well my bloom stalk still looks fine in my mind, so I'm very excited to see a plumeria flower since I have never seen one in person!!!

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It's looking good Barry, give that baby sunshine!!

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

My bloom stalk is going to drop. I guess I'll have to wait till next year to see some blooms.... : (

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Tucson, AZ

given your climate, you might have to wait. bummer! sometimes it's better to let them go dormant during the winter. that way the inflo is not trying to grow in conditions that are not conducive to blooming.

looks like you had spider mites!

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

How can you tell? Actually my other plants are infected with them. Some are so affected that I assume I will end up throwing them in the garbage. Makes me so disgusted that there really is no cure for spider mites. Right now I'm using an Aerosol propellant Houseplant insect killer that seems to eliminate these pests but it just doesn't do the trick that I'm wishing for....

Here is my Epiphyllum oxypetalum plant thats infected in which I will most likely throw out.

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Tucson, AZ

because they went to town on your plumie leaves.

that's one of the things that ppl never really talk about. everyone can tell you how to grow them outside during the summer or store them for winter. there is seldom anything said about growing them inside during the winter and pest problems that can arise.

use a horticultural oil before you bring your plants inside for the winter. it makes the leaves inhospitable for pests. it can also cause the leaves to drop if they get too warm inside. no big lose though in the case of plumeria.

Plumiedelphia, PA(Zone 7a)

I use a systemic insecticide in the spring, added to the soil.
In the fall 2 weeks b4 bringing them in I spray with neem.
Ill get a massive explosion of mites in January and ill strip the leaves and wipe the plants with alcohol.
Its a battle to kill spidermites till they go back out.
I use a needle spray from the hose and start over again with a systemic mixed into the soil.
Its been this way for 15 years.
Lots of work but worth the flowers ;)

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Tucson, AZ

i have found that if you start blasting the leaves when you first see them and/or wiping down the leaves that you can take care of them. i don't have too many, so i can constantly watch them for spider mites.

Larsen, WI(Zone 5a)

Well my bloom stalk fell off last night. Now I've got 4 branches that are thriving.

Now since I know basically nothing about flowering these plants, were will the next bloom stalk appear?

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