Question on Orienpet

This last year I purchased several bulbs that were classified as Orienpet. This year when they bloomed I tried to cross several different OP x OP. For some reason, none of them look like they took. (Very small pods/maybe this is normal?) Can someone tell me if you can cross OP x OP or are there some other species you should use? I have no problems with Trumpets x Trumpets or Oriental x Oriental, but unable to cross OP.
Thanks

I've been looking at some sites about Lily breeding, and it gets kinda complicated with the polyploids. I believe you need to know the number of chromozones of the parents, I think they need to match.

Most Ot's are created via embryo culture because they won't cross naturally. Sort of like cats and dogs. But by using embryo culture they have arrived with dats or cogs...

My experience with OTs is that using a tetra trumpet OR a tetra OT pollen is your best chance at getting seed. Your seed amount per pod will not be nearly what you will get for a trumpet x trumpet or oriental x oriental. My best like has been using more trumpet-like looking OTs and using tetra trumpet pollen, sometimes more than one if I am really wanting it to take). I did an OT x mixed tetra OT pollen and it took very well (I think it was the one I sent you last year). Lots of seed in that pod, though I think of all of the crosses I have done, that proved to have the most good seed. This year I think I had some that maybe had 7 good seeds, the rest was chaff. Like pard said to me once, it just means you don't have to start so many seeds ;)

Experimenting is fun though. Keeping good records can help you prevent duplicate failures (not that I am great at that, but I am working on it).

Ditto what Mag said. All orientpets should have the same number of chomosomes, but some are sterile, a few are only good pod parents, some are only good pollen parents. To put it simply, they're just not good parents, LOL. Still, crossing with a tetraploid trumpet will be most successful, followed by a tetraploid oriental. Crossing with a diploid anything is always fruitless.

FYI, when Mag talks about only getting 5-10 seed from a pod, that usually translates into 95-99% chaff. Chaff is seed without viable embryos.

Mags,
am I having a senior moment?
What is tetra trumpet OR?
I sent you a D mail too.

I meant it to be an or ( as in either or) but placing an emphasis on the "or" by capitalizing, sorry if there was any confusion.

Triploids can be pod parents too, but not pollen parents.

Thanks for the info.....

Mag is right, sorry about that. I found in my notes this too;

A triploid pod parent can be pollenized by a tetraploid, that usually results in triploid progeny, with a possible ocasional tetraploid.

I'm learning all the time. Very thankful for pals on DG, allowing me to make less mistakes, but still push the envelope, so to speak.