It was labeled as Monstera deliciosa 'Variegata' but I wanted to make sure.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/95689/
Thanks
Do I have this Monstera IDed right?
Hi Kell,
A. Graf "Tropica", lists the plant as Monstera deliciosa 'Albo-variegata'.
Hi
Do you know how to tell the difference?
What difference?
The difference between Monstera deliciosa 'Variegata' and Monstera deliciosa 'Albo-variegata'.
Or are you saying there is no such plant as Monstera deliciosa Variegata?
'Albo-variegata' has irregular white patches, as your plant shows.
'Variegata' is splashed & marbled with yellowish cream, and the leaves commonly revert to plain green.
I have the yellow variegated one (and the albo variegated one) and I have been very very lucky so far that the yellow one has not reverted.
This one looks more like what is called Monstera borsigiana albovariegata, aka Monstera deliciosa borsigiana (and probably others). "The" Monstera deliciosa 'Albo-variegata' is distinguishable by the leaf internodes (very close together, 1" or usually less), and the tell-tale "crinkle" right where the leaf joins the petiole, just like on the regular (non-variegated) Monstera deliciosa. The Monstera borsigiana (and it's variegated types) does not have the "crinkle", and the leaf internodes are usually several inches or more apart. It's also a more robust grower and the leaves do not get as large or as perforated. In my opinion, it also has a more attractive variegation.
Does anyone know what the actual correct nomenclature for the M. borsigiana type is?
Oh I forgot about this thread. Thank you Metrosideros for your input. I looked online for pics of Monstera deliciosa 'Variegata' but they all show similar ones to this one.
Hi Carter. So which one has the larger leaves? These 2 had HUGE leaves. I do not have a pic of the "crinkle" area. Carter do you have a pic of the crinkle? And of the leaf joints?
These leaves were much bigger than mine. I should serch for a pic of mine when I had it in the house. My husband realized it had climbed all the way up the wall by its aerial roots and it was down and out in an hour. LOL
I cut it up for new starts. Mine is very variegated. Here is a new start from it. Again it was sold to me as Monstera deliciosa 'Variegata.' I will have to go out and look at the "crinkle" area.
The back.
The 'Borsigiana' cultivar is a dwarf.
What would make the white and/or yellow version revert to all green?
The solid green type is the natural state of the plant. It is simply making itself normal.
So, is it totally an amount of light thing (vs. genes, minerals, etc.) that makes them not green?
I believe the variegations come from a virus.
OK, you are pulling my leg now.
Nope, variegations in plants generally aren't normal. They are a sickness in the plant that we (humans) find attractive.
Then why do I not hear about people selling just the virus?
What do you mean?
Maybe he means so you could innoculate all your plants and make them sick (and variegated, LOL)
I have a question.
Has anyone ever heard of a Philodendron called "Cheesecake"?
There was a vendor selling what I believe is albo-variegated Monstera at a sale I was just at and they swore up and down it was NOT monstera but was a "new" philodendron that has just come onto the market in the US called 'Cheesecake".
Anyone have any knowledge of this? I got one, it was pretty huge and $10 so if it is a var MOnstera it was a good deal
Hi Gothqueen, that does look very similar to Monstera deliciosa 'Marmorata'.
I thought Cheescake, Swiss Cheese was one name for the Monstera Obliqua. Plain green with lots of holes, no splits.
Gothqueen, I googled your Cheescake and found another out there. I wonder where this blog is from.
http://plantsarethestrangestpeople.blogspot.com/2009/10/walkaways-part-4.html
Yours has so many speckles. Mine does not have speckles. In fact I do not think Ihave seenone with so many speckles.
I thought Monstera deliciosa Marmorata had yellow variegation.
I was looking at the Aroid Society pages trying to see if they had a definitive ID page on these variegated ones, but can't find such information. There must be an online source for such information.
A. Graf's ("Tropica") description for Monstera deliciosa 'Marmorata', syn. Philodendron pertusum 'Variegatum', "Variegated Philodendron", is; "a mutant with irregular variegation where parts of the leaf may be entirely green, and other sections marbled cream to greenish-yellow, or entirely cream; new growth may be found to revert back to green."
Metrosideros, do you know of a good online resource with pictures?
Hi Kell, I usually Google the botanical name + Images, for any particular plant, and usually several references show up.
There is NO yellow at all in this plant. I do have the yellow variegated form of Monstera, which I got as M. pertussa. This is definitely not the same plant. There are no all green leaves, all leaves have variegation, mostly as you noted, speckles and not 'stripes'. Also, it doesn't yet appear to be an overt 'climber' but looks like it may have a self heading habit. Its too soon to tell, needs to grow some more to definitely see what its habits may be.
Hi Gothqueen, I would think it's safe to say you have some form of variegated Monstera deliciosa.
You must have better luck than I do then. Google has few if any when I try. Sure not enough to help me ID them.
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Monstera+deliciosa+Marmorata+&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2
I just bought the same plant labeled Phil. Cheesecake from my local Ace Hardware for $10. I wonder if they put the variegated Monstera into tissue culture?
Cool looking plant
Hey Kell, rather than go to the Google Images Search. Go to the Google Search bar on your web browser and type in "Monstera deliciosa Images".
You will come up with hundreds of sites, rather than just Google Images.
You can also type in the cultivar for results, such as: "Monstera deliciosa 'Marmorata' Images"
Aloha, Dave
that is cool!
Albo means white
Flava bright green yellow color
Marmorata yellow
Marginata usually means around the edges
I have seen several forms of Monstera deliciosa they would all be considered different clones of the same species. The variegated forms usually have blotches to spots and this is usually a mutation with lack of chlorophyll in the tissues.
Now for the spreading of virus for variegation I would highly go against this. I have seen it done in plumera and bromeliads and though some of the results are very amazing it can spread and can cause many unwanted effects. Usually aroids are effected by mosaic viruses and the results look like streaks or odd blotches of yellow. Not an attractive effect. This may be a infected philo plant below. I am not exactly sure yet.
infected or not that looks AWESOME!
I want some
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In Latin:
Marmorata, means "Marbled".
Flava, means "Yellow".
Flavovirens, means "Greenish-Yellow".
Grubworm, its the same plant as mine. Its even in the same white pot!
The vendor I got it from said that they got them from Branford's in Apopka. For those outside of Florida, Branfords is a grower that specializes in producing tropical plants for the mass market, from what I can tell from their website. There are many many many places like them in Apopka. Apopka (FL) is kind of the 'mecca' of mass plant growing for the trade here. It is comparable to the area around Vista CA.
I actually emailed Branfords and asked them about this plant, but they did not reply.
The vendor did not know if it was from TC, or if it was from Thailand, or what made it "not a variegated monstera" like I told her it looked like
Oh, I'm loving these variegated Monstera's! I have the solid green variety and would love, love, love to find a variegated! There are a few variegated varieties listed in Plant Files: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/b/Araceae/Monstera/none/cultivar/0/
You need to be careful with some of the IDs when you google. I've been trying to ID a Dockrillia sp orchid and found some inaccuracies in some of the information that turned up. It's not so bad when you have something that's fairly common and a lot is published on it. But when you're looking for things that are a bit more obscure and little heard of it can be a bit of a minefield.
Yes and I've heard there are a lot of incorrect entries in Plant Files as well.