Name That Fuchsia! For that mystery fuchsia in your garden.

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

I don't have any misting system or watering system. I am old fashioned, I water by hand. Especially since the majority of them are in containers. Each fuchsia has a different growth pattern and rate of growth. So they get dry at different rates. Actually, I should say, almost dry, as I never, ever let them get dry.
Upright fuchsias do just fine out in the full sun if they have a large healthy root system in place. I do not grow any hanging baskets. In my book, hanging baskets have given fuchsias a bad name as tempermental and delicate. Something many people treat as an annual and throw away when it either gets too hot for them in those little pots swinging in the heat, or the icy cold of winter. My Voodoo is almost 15 years old!!
We've started two threads. One about heat hardy fuchsias and one about cold hardy fuchsias. Plus there is one about hardy uprights in the ground, but it doesn't state whether that is hardy for cold or hardy for heat. There seems to be two camps with little imbetween. Sounds like you would need both. A fuchsia which has proven to be both heat hardy and winter hardy.

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Well, fuchsias are just like any other plant. They do different things in different climates. I don't think because they don't winter over good that you can say they should not be grown in the Puget Sound area. Or that wimps are grown there. Or that hanging basket fuchsias are wimps. And no, they are not grown in little tiny pots.

I guess compared to your 15 gallon pots the hanging baskets would be considered that, but they are fed, watered, and taken care of. Yes, treated as an annual. Like any other plant, or area, you have perennials that are grown year around in zone 9, but are annuals in zones below that.

Jeqanette

Port Orchard, WA(Zone 8a)

ouch!

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Jnette, I think you may have misinterpreted my post. I certainly didn't intend to insult anyone.

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

LOL, read back over my post and I really didn't mean to sound so brusk. Sincerely, smile when you say that!! : )



Guess I just meant to say that we don't have the long growing season that you do down there. Jeanette

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Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

That is certainly understandable. Have you ever visited the Northwest Fuchsia Society website? It is in a sticky at the beginning of the forum. They have good info on how to overwinter some of the hardier fuchsias.
Allot of people in cold zones like yours, are trying various different means of getting the fuchsias they love through their winters :-)
They have inspired me to try something I would have been quick to say was impossible before I began reading the forums here and the notes people post to specific varieties of fuchsias in the Plant Files. I am growing a few selected varieties in a sunny southern facing window in my livingroom. So far, so good. I was going to post photos of the new growth today, but ran out of time. Tomorrow they will be in the threads about propigation and I am going to start a new thread about growing fuchsias indoors.

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

That would be very interesting. Many, many years ago we used to grow them as houseplants in the house, but it has been so many years, and I was very young, that I don't remember anything about it. I believe it was my mother and grandmother who did that.

I will look in the propagation thread and am looking forward to the new one.

I haven't been on their site for quite a while. I used to order my fuchsias from them in the spring, however, the last several years have been able to arrange with my daughter to get them for me on her spring visit to me. She lives fairly close to their facility. 2 years ago I went over and picked out my own.

Their plants are not expensive, but the shipping is a lot. But, they do pack them very good and that means a lot. Somehow, I can't quite imagine their being able to figure out growing fuchsias in my climate of 5b.

Jeanette

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

The searchable list is making progress! I also added a field for into like whether or not a cultivar is a triphylla or encliandra cultivar. There is a field for single, small single, semi-double, and double blossoms.
You will be able to sort it for cultivars that are both heat and cold hardy :-)
And to me, the best part is being able to sort if for white sepals and blue corolllas! My favorite ;-D
Some of the descriptions for the colors can be so detailed. So I added two more fields to make it easier to sort without losing the detail. For example, there are two fields for the sepals and two fields for the corollas. You can ask for all the ones with white sepals and then narrow it down from there if you wish by using the second field with all the detail. Such as "White Tipped Green."
The list of uprights is over 1,000 now and I just need to finish putting in all the info for each one. I couldn't always find things like height and hardiness, so there are allot of blanks.
Next, I need to figure out how to upload it to a generic website for everyone to use.
Still trying to figure out what it should be named.
Maybe, UprightFuchsias.info, since it will only have information, nothing else. Give me some suggestions!
And I hope by next spring, we will all be filling in the blanks here in the PlantFiles! All of those fuchsia varieties with no photos is SO sad!

Thanks for all the work you are doing in the PlantFiles, PC!

Here is a Fuchsia I don't seem to have any luck finding. It truly has a unique color which I have no words for in describing. Maybe someone will recognize it!

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Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Hi Kin, you mean you want to buy it, or you want the name of it? Jeanette

Hi, Jnette!
LOL...I want the name of it & will probably buy it also!!

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Well, it sure looks familiar. Jeanette

Port Orchard, WA(Zone 8a)

Jeanette, GGKin, I would like to buy it, it has the coloration of the Flower Scape, Bud, Flowers, of one of my new hosta hybrids, Pedricks Corner, do you have this one? Jim

I'm still searching...No luck so far
Jim, that sounds like a wonderful looking Hosta

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

No, I don't have that one. But from the hundreds and hundreds of photos and descriptions I have been looking at for the fuchsia database, I know they call that color Aubergine. So I will do a search for Aubergine and see what comes up. I know I have seen it also. I think it might even be a species.
The database is on another computer, so I can search on this one and type info into the other. I'll get back to you.

Port Orchard, WA(Zone 8a)

PC, that's a good name for the Hosta 'Aubergine' is that 4 or 5 syllables? like Lambourgine? Jim GardenGuyKin, yes, it is a pretty one, I had a mass of comments on the hosta hybridizing forum called hostapix.

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

I am learning allot about the names people use for colors!!
In order to apply the simple color red to it's many variations, I had to learn what "cerise" is (French for cherry), etc.
Aubergine is a very, very old Indo-European word for Eggplant! And Eggplants are called Aubergines in many areas of Europe.
I have only completely filled in up to the letter D. With some for every letter all the way to Z. Even so, I came up with 12 upright fuchsias described as having Aubergine sepals and corollas.
Unfortunately, there are allot of old photos out there which are misleading in their colors. And the Aubergine doesn't always show correctly. But the one that also had an elongated sepal like GGK's fuchsia, was Whitenights Amethyst. The best photo I could find of it is at FindThatFuchsia. Some of the others make it look pink.
In defense of some of the older photos, it took me over a year to get a photo of my Delta's Groom that I felt was true to it's color. It is also Aubergine.
Let me know what you think GGK. And as I come across more of them, I will let you know.

This message was edited Nov 21, 2009 8:25 PM

Thanks for your searching efforts, PC!
Also thanks for the description of Colors.

I looked at Whitenights Amethyst but found several photos with completely different looking plants. So...I'm not certain on it being this cultivar. I plan on attending a local AFS meeting on Monday and will certainly see if someone there can ID it for me.

Now for Color
I was searching for a (color wheel) that they may use in the Fuchsia Society for description or judging. I came up with nothing. Have you ever seen one, PC?

I will keep you informed when I find out which one this is. I really like it's color and JUST must have one! LOL

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

ggk, I sent pc an email last night late about Aubergine color by Fuchsia Lady, Earthworks, in Covington. If you go into trailing fuchsia colors under Aubergine, there are several different ones, but one looks somewhat, pretty close, to what she is looking for.

Jeanette

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

GGK, no, I have never heard of that color wheel! I would love to see one!
I paint and I am currently teaching a small group of elementary students to paint. We have been studying the color wheel and how to make our own colors.
Something I insist they learn even though there are so many premixed colors available today. I want them to understand how those colors are made.
I assumed your fuchsia was an upright, if it is a trailer, then I won't have any idea ;-)

I will be very interested in knowing what the name of your fuchsia is as well.
As I continue down the alphabet, I will keep my eyes pealed.

Meanwhile, here is a list of those I found last night which have Aubergine sepals and corollas. But remember, old photos and poorly taken photos, are not going to show you true Aubergine. So in your case, I would trust the description and focus on the shape of the flower and the leaves for a more definate identification. I left out the ones that had Dark Aubergine for the corolla.
Delta's Robjin
Delta's Sprinkler
Foline
Fuchiade '88
Hobo
Jim Muncaster
Lechlade Magician
Olympic's Sunset
White Knight's Amethyst

PS GGK, and thank-you for all of your work on adding to the Plant Files as well! Nice new additions. And I am SO glad you also posted a photo of Margaret as a bush. That is one of my personal goals. To provide photos of the uprights as bushes, not just the close-ups we always see. Each bush has such an individual growth pattern.

This message was edited Nov 22, 2009 12:28 PM

Well...
Sorry I have not gotten back to you! It's a bit chaotic here for me maybe it will slow down! LOL
Not likely with the Holidays near.
Thanks for all your input, PC.
This is what I believe it to be with descriptions and some photos to judge it by.
Zulu King
http://www.storesonlinepro.com/store/2418111/product/Hardy%20Fuchsia%20Zulu%20King

I also found out that a local Nursery picked up Monnier's Gardens Fuchsia Collection. Here is a link to their Website and collection. I also think they have an excellent collection and photos are very good! Take a look...
http://www.storesonlinepro.com/store/2418111/fuchsiacatalogue
http://davesgarden.com/products/go/view/7577/

I believe I will be heading down that way this weekend for a look!!! OH boy I believe I'm gonna get my wallet in trouble...He he he

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

I feel so sorry for you GGK!!! ;-)
And I believe you are correct, it certainly looks exactly like Zulu King!
Of course, it would turn out to be the very last upright fuchsia on the list I have so far!
And that color is often refered to as Aubergine. If you look at my photos of Delta's Groom in the plant files, you see how close the colors are.
It has made me wonder if I ought not to use Aubergine and Carmine in the fields. And just use purple and then people could use Aubergine or Carmine or whatever, in the second field to narrow their search.......
I have been making a wish list of hardy uprights also. Gee whiz.....
Have fun!! We will alll be waiting to see what you pick out!

Saint Louis, MO(Zone 6a)

GGK: you are so bad!!! Oh, how you get me in trouble by listing another fuchsia source!

I went to the Fry Road Nursery link you listed for the fuchsia collection that came from Monniers. I've already placed a "reserve for me" order for next spring:

F. boliviana
F. hatschbachii

And Ann, at the nursery, told me F. denticulata is Neon Tricolor, which I bought from Earthworks last month, which I plan to take more cuttings off of. So it doesn't look like I'll be needing a cutting from your Neon after all! (Thank you for the offer, though.) Ann also said F. fulgens is like a first cousion to Neon and the flowers are very similar.

Fry Road doesn't have all their pictures posted, yet, but I've already seen a couple more plants that have caught my interest.

So, so bad!!!

Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

Wonderful information on this thread. Thanks PC and hummer_girl for all the great links and information.
Will post photo of the one I have but lost label for. Ooops!
Back tomorrow with photo.
WIB!
SW

HG, I'm Soooo sorry! SNicker..snicker!!
That's good new about Neon and I'm sure your going to enjoy it next year. I was happy to hear from Ann also. I met her back in September at Monnier's and will be seeing her again this weekend. I hope to share some photos with you all.
Take care and may everyone have a memorable Thanksgiving.
SW, will look forward to seeing your unnamed Fuchsia. We are doing really good so far with ID's.

Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

GGK,
Here you go. This is a small almost lavender-pink color. First photo shows whole plant. No name tag, so either I buried it, or my dog ate it.
I'm sure it came with one, but I can't find it now. Sigh!
Thanks for the help all!

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Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

Here is a close up.
Thanks again.
WIB,
SW

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Hei, SW...
I bet PC will know what it is right off the bat! I believe it's Diana Wright
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/176538/
It looks great and if it is Diana Wright she can get quite large

WHITENIGHT'S PEARL Sepals Pale Pink tipped green Corolla
is another possibility
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/82789/

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Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

Neither name is ringing a bell, so I guess I'll wait for PC to chime in. : - )
I just think it is a very dainty fuchsia. Not fragile mind you, but dainty.
Thanks for your help GGK, with the links, but until I'm allowed out to the gh to look I can't tell for sure.
(I've got the flu, and a scary good, God Daughter! LOL!)
WIB,
SW

I sure hope you feel better Soon!
Does F. magellancia Alba ring a bell?

Port Orchard, WA(Zone 8a)

SingingWolf, I looked it up on Earthworks and Whiteknights Pearl is in their photo gallery, I don't know if it's the same one as yours but I like it a lot, it's listed as hardy, that'll be another one on my list, Jim

Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

I am pretty certain it is F. magellanice alba var. molinae.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/185786/

It gets covered with those little blossoms. The corolla is pink with a bare hint of pale blue. Like Diana Wright, it can get over 10 feet high and develope a very thick woody trunk. The flaky texture of the bark on the trunk is one of the qualities I love about this hardy fuchsia. And it is one I am training as a hedge in another part of the yard.
Although mine has taken quite a beating this year from a teenage cat using it as a jungle gym!! Azorina and I compared photos of damage in this thread.

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1043163/

Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

What PC said, is what I am putting on the label.
I don't know if it is a seasonal change, but I made it out to check on my babies this morning (I wasn't supposed to but did anyway!) Lavender in color. Very pale. Will try for another photo later on. Although they don't always show the true color.
It's very happy, will also go look at the bark and see if I can see flaky bark texture. My petite, sweet fairy flower. Yes, I call Fuchsia's fairy flowers.
Calif_Sue's photo is most like mine.
Thank you all, so much. I want to start a thread and show what my babies are doing, but just don't have much energy right now. Rotten flu.
Will work on it in fits and starts as able.
They bring me so much joy, and I never thought they'd survive here.
WIB!
SW

Menifee, CA(Zone 9a)

This is the photo I tried to find originally. I took it on Nov. 12th. It shows the color and size of the bloom in comparison with my poor dry hands. LOL!
I did check and it still seems a bit more lavender in shade than this photo shows, might be me. I also checked the trunk, and lo and behold, it has that flaky textured bark that PC was talking about.
F. magellanice alba var. molinae, she is, but can I shorten that? If so to what?
She sure is a sweet little flower.
Thank you all again!
WIB,
SW

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Freedom, CA(Zone 9b)

Can't help you with that one SW ;-)
Seems like there ought to be a nice cute name for it, huh? Can't use Fairy Dancers, another fuchsia already has that name!
Meanwhile, great new photos for the Plant Files GGK!
Looks like you had a good time at Fry's.
'Lottie Hobbie' had me thinking maybe you had identified another one for me that was given to me as a cutting last winter and is now bush. But mine doesn't have that beautiful variegated edging on the leaves. I have seen F. microphylla's and F. minutiflora's, and other tiny varieties. But I haven't been able to figure this one out for sure yet. It has suddenly really begun to grow and is proving to be a robust bush. One would never think it would, just looking at those tiny leaves and tiny flowers. And it is not the same as what Willowwind2 sent me. The flowers and leaves are bigger. Here is a photo I took this week-end. What do you think?

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Gosh PC, I think I have seen it somewhere in all the plants I've been looking through.
Katinka comes to mind.
Encliandra
http://www.salfordboltonfuchsiasociety.co.uk/index2.htm?http://www.salfordboltonfuchsiasociety.co.uk/fabulous/g_encliand.htm&2

This message was edited Nov 30, 2009 6:42 AM

I found this description in the book By
George Bartlett 'Fuchsias The New Cultivars'
Lottie Hobby Variegata
Single Bush
This 'sport' from a species hybrid has the typical small enclandra type flowers. Tube and sepals crimson. Corolla petals dark crimson. Foliage a combination of green, red and yellow making a very attractive novelty. Not as vigorous as its parent and rather slow to start.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=7317809

I will need to add this to the plant files and have it moved.
What do you think, PC?

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