September flowers

Central, LA(Zone 8b)

No it doesn't look like that Joni. I'll check it out and let you know later. All of mine have twined together it's so hard to tell.

Whitestone, NY(Zone 7a)

Nice bouqet Lin!!

Jeri, those blooms are definitely not from H. pentaphlebia, based on the the flowers. Do you have a leaf pic so others can help you figure out which hoya it is? Just in case you can't untwine them!

Gabi

Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Here is Hoya mathilda. I'm not sure if it is spelled correctly, but it bloomed for the first time for me.

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Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Here is Hoya leucorhoda. Only seventeen months from cutting to bloom. The flower is very similar to Iris Marie except this Hoya blooms much easier! Highly recommended!

Doug

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Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Here is the entire plant for perspective.

Doug

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Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Hoya multiflora This thing had eight open umbels, before I cut off all of the flowers. I hated to do it, but it was just far to messy; it was dripping nectar on everything.

Doug

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Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

One scoop or two - Hoya compacta.

Doug

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Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Large leaf form of Hoya cummingiana. There is a definite color difference between the small leaf form and the large leaf. The large leaf form is far more tan than yellow.

Doug

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Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Here is the entire plant. It bloomed all last winter under lights.

Doug

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Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Hoya lacunosa, plain old green variety. I had to take this picture in case I never grow one this big again. It measured 6 feet four inches from the crown of the plant to the bottom.

Doug

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(Zone 1)

Wow, Doug ... that one called leucorhoda is Amazing! Never heard of it but I love it! Do you mind me asking what you feed your plants?

Great cummingiana too, I wonder if mine is the large leaf form - can't seem to talk it into blooming but hopefully some day it will show some flowers. I thought I read that cummingiana was more a shrub like hoya but mine sure doesn't have the growth habit of a shrub, it has long skinny vines. And, I don't know what to think of my Iris Marie, I love it but no blooms yet on that one either, just shooting out new vines all over the place.

Now that has to be the biggest (for both fullness and length) lacunosa I've ever seen ... really nice, great growing!

Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Thanks Lin!

I only feed my plants MSU fertilizer. I think that fertilizing my plants with almost every watering has made the biggest difference of anything I have ever done. I kept a few hoyas before finding this forum, but they hardly ever grew. I had H. cummingiana for over four years and it barely grew, let alone flowered. Two years ago I took cuttings from my mother small leaf cummingiana, which is four feet tall, and now its daughter is huge and produced a couple of dozen blooming peduncles this summer. I just took it to work so that I have a hoya by my desk. It has to be the plant food applied at almost every watering.

Doug

Cape Coral, FL(Zone 10a)

Wow! Doug, gorgeous hoyas with lots of flowers!!!
Good growing.

Jan

Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Thanks Jan. If I can do it in Vermont, these plants can be grown most any where. Here is the last Hoya kenejiana bloom of the summer.

Doug

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Those are all gorgeous Doug. Your leuchorda is spectacular. I have one, I think 2 years old, it grows like mad too, but no peduncles. What's your secret?

You cutting off shooting star hoya flowers made me audibly gasp ... lol... I know they're really drippy though so I can't blame you ... well too much anyway ... lol


Christine

Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Christine,

H. leuchorda gets the same treatment as most of my plants, grow lights in the winter, and then the greenhouse for 12-14 weeks in the summer. I would think that yours should form peduncles very soon with all that wonderful sunlight you have to offer from your large windows. I would trade all of my grow lights in a second for a couple of those windows.

I really, really hated to cut off those peduncles from multiflora, and I confess I did the same thing with cummingiana before bringing them back into the house. There was so much nectar dripping that I couldn't wash it off fast enough and sooty mold was beginning to form on the walls of my greenhouse and on the plant itself. I scrubbed everything up and gritted my teeth and did the deed. Here is a picture of the entire plant. Last fall it got really sad looking, the leaves kept yellowing and falling off. I pulled it out of the container and the roots were badly rotted. I cut all the stems off and rerooted it. It came through the ordeal pretty well.

Doug

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That proves just how tough hoyas can be. There's two I'd thought I'd lost recently too, but there ended up being just enough good stem and leaf left on both of them to start a cutting.

I think there could be not enough air circulation in the room where leuchorda is; the room is an add-on and the furnace ducting doesn't reach it so the room is heated by baseboard heating, which I hate. I'm going to get a fan going in there; I should have realized it before now. If we ever win the lottery ... lol ...I'll have radiant heated ceramic floors in there... and a ceiling fan/light fixture. Oh, and bigger windows too 8-)

Thanks.


Christine

Central, LA(Zone 8b)

Thanks Yall for letting me know. I hadn't even looked the bloom up. This is the plant that I posted the picture of earlier. It is clearly marked H. Pentaphebea. I must have mislabeled it but now the question is what is it? Anyone recognize it?

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(Zone 1)

Jeri: It looks like a very nice carnosa to me!

Yes, I agree - a very lovely carnosa - those leaves are a very nice shade of green. Some carnosas are so dark - I like this one better.


christine

Central, LA(Zone 8b)

Thanks Yall!!! I will correct it. I didn't know that carnosas had those specks in the leaves like that.

Cape Coral, FL(Zone 10a)

Fungii...smells good.

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Cape Coral, FL(Zone 10a)

Motoskei.

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Pittsburgh, PA

Doug---just stunning flowers as usual...that gigantic carnosa is just breathtaking...I had a couple of questions--does that large leaf form of cummingiana have the same scent as the small leaf form? And does multiflora, with all that dripping nectar, have a scent?...I had it once, briefly, and don't recall a scent, but I know I've read a couple of places that it does...Thanks, and congratulations on all your gorgeous flowers :-)

Shelley

Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Shelley,

Absolutely no scent that I can detect with the multiflora. Both the cummingianas have the same sweet spicy scent to my nose. While we are on the topic of cummingianas, does anyone know if the large leafed form is the same as Hoya densifolia. I recently received this plant and it looks and seems to behave identically to the large leafed cummingiana.

Doug

I wondered that myself. I have H. densifolia and it looks the same as your large leafed H. cummingiana. It hasn't bloomed for me yet though, neither has H cummingiana (little leaves).

Christine

Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

I'm going to hazzard a guess that it is one of those Hoyas that had a name change at some point, and now I have a duplicate. I would however like to know which name came first Large Leaf cummingiana, or H. densifolia.

Doug

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

There are three plants: H. cumingiana, H. densifolia and H. golancoina. Some say they are different clones of the same species/some say they are different. I know there is NO such publication for Large Leaf cumingiana. Hoyas have large leaves and small leaves....

(Zone 1)

Carol, Thank you so much for clarifying the large vs small leaf. I have cummingiana that I received in two trades a year or so ago, one was labeled large leaf H. cummingiana and the other just cummingiana. I can't tell the difference, the leaves are of different sizes just like on a lot of other plants.

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Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

I would have to guess that the Hoya I got in a swap or round robin a couple of years ago that was labeled Large Leaf cummingiana was in reality H. densifolia. I will change the label.

Doug

(Zone 1)

Doug: The foliage on your plant here:http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=7081837 looks a lot different than the plant I rec'd as cummingiana. The leaves on your plant do seem to be larger, narrower and more pointed at the tips. I'm hoping to see some blooms on my plant in the next year or so. If yours is densifolia, we need pic's in PF: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/82661/

There are no pictures in Plant Files of this plant, so hopefully some of you who have it will upload a few pictures ... plant, stems, foliage and blooms.

Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

Lin,

The leaves on my "Large Leafed cummingiana" are about 50% larger in size, thinner and slightly more pointed than on my regular cummingiana. They are identical to the H. densifolia cutting that I received in the Spring Hoya Co-op. I think that Carol is right and they are probably all just clones of the same species. The blooms are also very similar except for a little difference in the coloration. Anyhow, you look at it, they are all great easy growing plants that love my environment. I stand by what I said a few years ago that if I could only keep one Hoya it would be cummingiana!

Doug

Minneapolis, MN(Zone 5a)

Lin,
Is the trellis in the photo above a smal tomato cage? I've not ever seen one like that, if it is. Can I ask where you purchased that "trellis"? I love the look of it.
Thanks,
Mike

(Zone 1)

LOL, Doug I get so confused with these things. I'm always wanting to label my plants as correctly as possible and sometimes I guess it's not possible. But at least I know they are in the Genus Hoya. What gets confusing to me sometimes is the species and cultivar's.

So, do I have it right (or even close) that cummingiana and densifolia are two separate species of Hoya and maybe folks have crossed the two to come up with different clones? All of that stuff is sooo way over my head, LOL.

... guess I better stop thinking and go feed the fish, since it's past feeding time and they are dancing around in the tank wanting to eat!

(Zone 1)

Mike: I got that little trellis at the garden center at Target. They had three different sizes and that was the smallest/shortest. I plan on going back for a few of the different sizes because I really like them, they are very sturdy. I tried tomato cages for plants but they were too flimsy and got bent out of shape. These Christmas tree shaped trellises that came from Target are heavy wrought iron. I think someone said their K-Mart had them on clearance! I haven't had a chance to check our only K-Mart yet but will go there as well as two other Target stores.

Since it's a cloudy, rainy day here I will be running out to do some errands shortly and will take pic's of them with sizes when I return.

Minneapolis, MN(Zone 5a)

Hi Lin,
Thanks for the info. I'm pretty sure our Target stores no longer have garden centers in them. The K-Mart near me might have a garden center so I will check them out.
Thanks,
Mike

(Zone 1)

Just got home and I did stop in at one of our Target stores for the spiral trellises. All they had left was one 3' size (which is the one I used for my cummingiana) and two of the 5' size. There was a lady marking tons of stuff down .. placing red clearance stickers on all garden decor but I noticed these didn't have reductions so I asked her if they were on clearance and she said no. I asked if they would be going on clearance and she said she didn't think so. I bought the 3' size even though it was $12.99. I really thought I paid $7.98 for the one I got a month or so ago. I wanted the 5' one but don't want to spend $24.99 for it! I am going to check K-Mart later today or tomorrow.

Here's a view of the 3' size

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Waterville, VT(Zone 4b)

It is a great trellis, but I wish it were made in a smaller version - say 20-24 inches in height, and a little smaller in diameter. It takes a fairly large pot to accomodate the base of that trellis. If it were made smaller at a cost of around $5.00, I would buy a ton of them.

Doug

Minneapolis, MN(Zone 5a)

Thanks, Lin, now I know what I'm looking for and what to ask for if I don't see them. I'll see if I can get to K-Mart tonight and see if they have them.
Thanks again,
Mike

(Zone 1)

Here's a picture of the tag on the obelisk. I googled and found the company but they don't have an on-line store.


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