just love the color on this one

think my wild light blue crossed with my indica its pretty what ever it is

this is my wild blue
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=6859094

Nice colour, you never know it might be a hybrid but like you said it is pretty

Pretty color Marie

i love the hints of purple in that one. hope it produces seeds. that was its first bloom today. lasted until about 1 pm then that was it

If it is hederacea it will set seeds quick

I had 9 volunteers of hederacea this year from last year's vine. That's the most volunteers I've ever had from a single vine. Had to remove them all. Lots of seeds from those small blue flowers! They are pretty aggressive growing here in Florida!

i noticed they do produce alot and may have to cull them next year but this one was by where they were last year and the indica. so hoping this one is a cross and seeds come true.

either way i like this one and glad i got to see it if only one.

noticed today as another dies off how it looked so much like the wild blue once closed. just has indicas color.

hoping for seeds as this will be one cross i would like to have come true from seeds. mother nature did this cross but i like it alot.

so far the flowers have the same coloring todays had a little more purple but still the dark blueish purple of indica

nice one marie :-)

Can an Indica cross with a hederacea?

Anything is possible (!) correct me if I am wrong

i dont know but in all the glories i have seen this one looks like the wild blue i have but the coloring is indica. and never seen any of the wild blues like this one before and they do grow every where here. dont know if they can or not but who knows maybe they can. everything on this one screams wild blue the leaves flower shape and everything but the coloring.

Ronnie asked someone who may know but dont know if will get an answer.

this one is a volunteer. wild blue and indica grew together last year. had plenty of babies so didnt start to many specific ones this year to many diffeenrt leaf shapes so wanted to see what seeds i missed.

this one is in pot by itself and hope seeds will stay true. if it produces seeds

I don't know, Marie ... it's kind of like breeding a Chihuahua with a Great Dane. Is it really possible... I have my doubts. Maybe you just have an unusual color on this vine. Do all the blooms look the same color?

all blooms so far on this vine have same coloring if not stronger.

all the others looks like the wild blue but this one.

if it didnt cross then dont know where it come from.

will say this dog crossing i thought at one time to be far and in between on what could and couldnt cross till i got our dog. a pekinese chow mix

yea this one does have the same flower color so far.


Becky it is possible for other dogs to breed like that i know i have one. a pekinese and chow mix. so anything is possible

Perhaps, but highly unlikely.

Chihuahua and a Great Dane ... hmmmm ... nah ...

Oh Atticus doesn't like the sound of that!! LOL

I found this at the Morning Glory data base site...sounds to me like it is more unlikely than likely...

Breeding by interspecific crossing

In the interspecific hybrid bred by Y. Yoneda, the Youjiro (Ray white) morning glory, which was raised from the hybrid of the morning glory, Ipomoea nil, and the common morning glory, Ipomoea purpurea, has excellent flower durability, multifloral character and resistance to cold. All of these features are derived probably from the latter species. The Ray white is now popular as a flower giving clear color impression to the Japanese morning glory. More interesting flowers may be created if we could magnify their characteristics.
In addition, the author is very much interested in using perennial Noasagao (Ipomoea indica) in morning glory (Ipomoea nil) breeding, though it is impossible to cross the two species to produce their hybrid. When pollens of Ipomoea indica were applied to an Ivyleaf morning glory (Ipomoea hederacea), the immature embryos developed at an extremely early stage after fertilization, then their breakdown occurred. Thus, in the future we might get a hybrid individual if we could rescue the immature embryo at this stage by in vitro culture. The author considers this a possible interbridge for morning glory (Ipomoea nil) breeding.

Can you get a very detailed photo here because I have a professor of botany who feels he might be able to ascertain if it is a hybrid or not. If you could have some photos of the sepals, leaves and corolla from the front and side.

If it is a hybrid you would have a new RARE and EXCLUSIVE discovery (!)

I just phoned him and what he needs is a photo of the blue one and an indica on a white piece of paper next to each other with a ruler to compare.

He is quite excited, requirements

1. Photo of sepals

2. Photo of leaves

3. Measurements

Both species compared side to side

Marie- I have enlarged your photo however I am not able to establish the morphological differences such as the curvature of the sepal, notice however the pigmentation(s) and curvature of the corolla which can be variable in Ipomoea hederacea or Ipomoea indica however without comparitve photo(s) of width, planar surfaces and bract characterisitics I am unable to establish if this is a inter-species hybrid if you have access to a microscope you could examine the pollen (!) but you are best taking pollen from indica and trying to pollinate are making observations of subsequent seed set

Examine the stem and any absence of primordial root nodes at the axial junctions and stages of seedpod development, as you can appreciate you would need a more through examination of sepal tapers and structure of the actual seeds and this is something I would encourage you to do as a basis of further experimentation as doing so would be further continuation of the research and development that shows no global boundaries or distance it is an opportunity such as this that drives forward the gardening machine we know and embrace as convolvulacea (!) the sharing of knowledge and observations within the boundary of the free domain is imperative to embrace the essence of a common goal.

It is fantastic to see someone taking an interest in hybrids and the pigmentation is like the ocean correct me if I am wrong (!)

Theory predicts that, for taxa that are already substantially postzygotically isolated but for which hybrid mating is still costly, enhanced prezygotic isolation will be favored. This hypothesis by examining the potential contribution of one particular floral trait, herkogamy, to prezygotic isolation between two specie(s)of morning glory

http://protist.i.hosei.ac.jp/asagao/yoneda_db/e/relatives/03.html

http://zipcodezoo.com/Plants/P/Pharbitis_indica/

TTY...

Ray

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Marie - here is the enlargement the color is sumptuous and exquisite in it's own right the merging of blue hue(s) is indeed something special and intricate we should do a grow out to ascertain if indeed this is a hybrid or determine what dominant or recessive allelles are the cause of this colour unique range of pigmentation (!)