i have an anacua tree. might like another. somebody offered some desert willow. what else can yall think of that would be hardy here. esp. tell me some shrubs. esp. ones that birds like since birds is about all i can have anymore. the possums and skunks are gone. we have a few rabbits. whine. whine.......
need ideas for native trees and shrubs
You could try Yaupon Holly
http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=ILVO
Possum Haw
http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=ILDE
Carolina Cherry Laurel
http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=PRCA
Mexican Plum
http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=PRME
Coralberry
http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=SYOR
American Beautyberry
http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=CAAM2
All of those are great for the birds, they are all hardy and Native to Texas.
Josephine.
thanks josephine. i have 2 of those. i ought to get a yaupon holly but i have never liked the stickers. does possum haw have them as well?
does anyone know of a peach tree variety that does well in texas?
My Yaupon doesn't have stickers, and Possum Haw doesn't either.
What about a Southern Wax Myrtle? I'm not sure if they're native though.
it is native and i like it. not sure how to go about getting a male and a female though. can you tell me how crowellii? this might be the plant i need to form a screen. and it's evergreen.
Yes, the Wax Myrtle is native and a very worthwhile tree, it does like water.
Unless the nursery knows for sure, the best way to tell, if you want male and female is to buy them in the fall when they are in fruit. The female will have the berries.
Josephine.
I know Cornelius usually has the plants marked male and female on the types where it matters, like some fruit, ginko, etc. I'd think they'd have wax myrtles labeled too. Other than that, you could tell them apart when they are in bloom. Here's a site that shows the difference in bloom on the male and female plant. Of course in order to purchase them when in bloom, this might mean you have to wait a while to get them.
http://www.duke.edu/~cwcook/trees/moce.html
Hope this helps.
Crow
Yes, wax myrtle is native to East Texas. Lots of birds love the fruit but it really seems to be a favorite of yellow rumped warblers that visit in the winter. I see lots each year and never had them visit me in town before having wax myrtle. Plus, I love the smell of the leaves and branches when trimming them. They do sucker though but just within a few feet of the mother plant.
Here are others kinda different:
All edible.
Agarita
Texas Persimmon
American Persimmon
Paw Paw
Juneberry
We have lots of the Yaupon Holly, American Beautyberry and the Red Buckeye. Come on over and you can dig all you want. I will even help you. I also know where there are lots of Wax Myrtles, they are all around the area lakes.
dang, yall been busy while i was gone. good going and keep it coming. this is wonderful. a persimmon. haven't thought of those in years. i need a persimmon. gotta look agarita up. and juneberry. i never have luck with paw paws. not sure what i do wrong.
crowellii, who is cornelius?
and kenboy how long would it take me to get to your place? i am about 25 miles west of greenville. and 20 miles from terrell. if that helps. could we do it in the fall? and i would love to see where exactly each of them grows naturally. how big is the buckeye? and have you ever dug one? is it hard? and also i have alkaline clay. will all of those trees/shrubs grow in my kind of soil do you think?
sweezel i wish i could i.d. birds. i only know my mockingbirds. and i talk to them. i have millet planted in the yard. and a few sunflowers. any other suggestions for seed plants for the birds?
Mamajack....I thought you only like those plants you can sneak and dig in the dark with flashlights! LOL!!
As bad as I dislike my Hackberry trees, they are native and great for the Cedar Wax Wings and other birds love the berries; plus they are a host plant to several butterflies and moths. They are easily started from where the seeds fall too. I am sure I can dig you a few of those. I should see you in October.
I've got a couple growing here that haven't been mentioned yet. The birds love them both.
Sparkleberry aka Tree Huckleberry
http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=VAAR
Elderberry, Sambucus nigra ssp. canadensis
http://wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=SANIC4
I've got so many huckleberry trees I would love for someone to come dig some up and take them home!! I could send you baby seedlings. Also have plenty of American Beautyberry bushes.
allwild do you think they'd grow in alkaline clay soil?
and sheila i got hackberry. i like them. now i used to say i hated them but birds do like them. so i like them.
and i still like the "other" kind of plants you mentioned as well. i just need some cover over here in fate texas since north texas water co. decided to cut the ones i had out there. all i see now is "development". yuk!! yep, it's gotta go. thought about getting some of those pawlonia trees that get to be about a 1000 ft. tall in just a short time but even i ain't that mean. and i'm mad at myself about not being mean as a junk yard dawg. in my young years i didn't aspire to that but it fits the menopausal personality well.
Oh sure, we have clay soil here too. And I'm about 40ish miles east, northeast of Greenville.
Huckleberry tree.
well i would like both of them allwild. do you live near kenboy?
and do you think either of those plants would do well in full sun?
this is going good for me. keep it coming.
Barbara...you may have to rent a trailer and pile the kids and pots & shovels and make a day of it. LOL!
We are about an hours drive from Terrell. You could catch allwild on your way out and you can come out any time it fits your plan and we are home.
Our closest town is Sulphur Springs if you know where it is off of Interstate 30.
Both the Huckleberry and the American Beautyberry typically grow in partial shade but some of them are in full sun also.
That sounds like a fun idea Sheila!
ok when it gets cooler i have to revisit this thread and get back in touch with folks.
jujube.............i really want an agarita. where can i get one? anybody got persimmon? forgot juneberry. be back.
i want a juneberry too. where do you get this stuff?
Just go to the plant profiles on Daves Garden and click on the sellers link. Big box stores will carry the Agarita. Juneberrys and persimmons are available everywhere and pretty cheap.
mamajack, Cornelius is the Houston area version of the Fort Worth-based chain nursery, Calloway's. In Houston, they use the name Cornelius, while in DFW it's Calloway's.
Mama, sorry I didn'e see your question earlier, but Carolyn is correct, it's the local name carried by Calloways. They're kind of pricey, but I've never bought anything from them that died either and the plants are guaranteed for a year.
What a nice listing of choices. I'm in the process of replacing 7 pines we had to have removed due to pine beetles. I'm definitely going to be looking for some of these, but I think y'all have the right idea about waiting until fall. It's too hot out there right now. This time of year, I only do "dart gardening". I dart out, pull a weed, dart back in.
Crow
How's about Vitex and Rose of Sharon? Hummingbirds love both of them, and they're both beautiful, low/no maintenance small trees.
I'm afraid you'll have to buy Agarita, Mama, as it has a looooooong taproot and is almost impossible to transplant. If you're in the Garland area, you can find them at Rohde's Nursery (near 635 and North Garland Ave).
Carla
The Lady Banks Rose is absolutely drought crazy. I have never watered mine in 7 years and it has always been green and happy. I planted another one at the beginning of the drought and only watered it a few time and it exploded.
I have Texas persimmons. The sexes are separate and need to bloom before you can distinguish male from female. The fruit is so popular that I seldom see ripe fruit. I love the exfoliating gray bark. You are welcome to come and dig up some.
bettydee..........you are in LA GRANGE, texas. lol. it ain't in the neighborhood like big sandy is. hahahaha
i can go to rohde's. they might have a lot of this stuff. i must have agarita though. so long tap root translates to me as never needing one drop more water than what texas gives it. is that right?
loonie, i got vitex and rose of sharon. so i don't appreciate those like i should. and since my rose of sharon is little i never see a hummingbird on it. i am thoroughly angry that hummingbirds don't come to my yard and they do come to yours and patti's. it's just not right.
ok i have to plan a fall trip to allwild's and kenboy's. and kenboy you are a scream. i have followed you on other threads. can i make you both on the same day or do i have to spend the night with one of you? hahahahaha
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/search.php?q=juneberry&Search=Search+PlantFiles
here is the plant files page on juneberries. which one am i wanting?
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/search.php?q=juneberry&Search=Search+PlantFiles Maybe this is what you meant to post?
dang it sheila they're the same thing. ain't they? lol.
Mama, the secret to attracting hummingbirds .... Salvia garanitica. Sssssh, we'll just keep it our secret. ;-)
Carla
that just ain't so loonie. i had it for years practically took over one whole bed. never a one. gave the whole lot of it to cocoalulu. i am still mad. it's racial somehow. or maybe it's an income thing. either way i got a bone to pick with hummers.
They didn't like your S.Garantica?? What daft hummingbirds! Maybe they've just got no sense of humor?
Carla
Good question about the Juneberry. I believe that Amelanchier alnifolia is the generic variety but I am not sure which one naturalizes down here. I can tell you one thing, the one in my backyard brushes off this heat like it is nothing.
That Agarita isn't an easy find! I really would like to grow some...I guess I'll check into seeds.
Well mamajack, you will probably be mad at me too when you get here because I've got at least a dozen hummers fluttering around here all day everyday!!! I can see them out the window right now!
And all I've got is one $5 feeder! LOL Hey, I don't know what attracted them here unless it is the Coral honeysuckle that blooms in the spring...but it's long gone now.
see another bias exhibited by the hummers. i don't have a feeder but i do have some red flowers out there. i'm gonna ask for a little stimulus money and hire me a lawyer. hahahaha
what do you mean it's not an easy find? i'll go to rohde's when i can and see if they have it. i'll let you know what i find. what if they don't have it? who's going to find it? hahaha
That's funny mamajack!! But really, what if they don't have it? what are we gonna do?!!!!!! LOL
Jujubee, there are native varieties of Juneberry, A. utahensis and A. denticulata, and a naturalized variety, Amelanchier arborea according to this Texas Native Plant Database:
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/ornamentals/nativeshrubs/amelanchierarbor.htm
In my area, I have to find the ones that are not acid loving. That is supposed to be one of the good things about Juneberries. Not all of them require acid soils like blueberries do.