Grasshoppers are wiping out my Brugs!

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

The nymphs, of the first grashopper species to hatch, show up sometime in March out in the pastures and appear as adults in my garden about 3 - 4 weeks later. Too late to use Nolo. By late May, several other species have joined the first wave, but these must hatch nearby because they are smaller in size when they descend upon my plants. By late June, grasshoppers of all sizes, from nymphs to 4 inches, form a carpet on the ground. They are everywhere and rise like a plume of smoke when I walk through them. They are so bad they even keep Bermuda grass in check. About the only plant they leave alone is the Sago palm. Some plants will recover because all they lose are their leaves. However, three maybe four of the citrus trees I planted last fall are goners. First, the grasshopppers ate the leaves. Once those were gone, they ate ALL the bark and cambium. The ones in pots are still alive but minus all their leaves, some bark and twigs. The hydrangreas that were safe as long as there were other plants to chew on are now under attack. Roses and Altheas are nude and have been cropped of all the tender growth, but the biggest heatbreak is what they have done to my Brugs. They provide a very expensive meal! Most of my Brugs are relatively inexpensive, but I have paid a fortune for a number of them.

The smaller the Brug the more permanent the damage — fatal to many of this year's purchases. Photos don't convey the horror I see every time I walk into my make shift shadehouse. You get a glimpse of the damage through these photos.

Flirtation: The brown color on the visible branches indicate missing bark and cambium.

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La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Fascination has been chewed in half. Here is the cut end.

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La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Mon Amour de Mareuil, a cutting I rooted during late winter, has some new growth near the soil line. I have a 4' X 8' table full of gallon pots with rooted cuttings. Many are like this.

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La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Dr. Seuss' main trunk just below the "Y". Damage above that include one whole branch. Damage below the "Y" include missing bits of trunk here and there.

Sorry about the photo orientation. Still learning how to use thew new viewer software.

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La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

The above soil portions on some of my larger and older Brugs have been killed. Only time will tell if they will return. Here my biggest loss is Knightii. I thought I had bought a replacement, but it turned out it is not Knightii. The leaves are not fuzzy at all on the new "Knightii".

The nude green branch cutting through the photo belongs to a varietaged Eureka lemon.

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La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

I lost only the leaves on Bernstein, but now the little Brug is turning yellow. I wonder if the grasshoppers are transmitting a disease?

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Lakeland, FL(Zone 9a)

Wow Bettydee

I Am So Sorry For Your Loss
It Is War Time For The Grasshoppers.
Have You Tried And Sevin Dust Or
Spray With A Sticker That the Spray
Will Stick To The Leaves To Ward Them Off.

How Do You Attack Them To Stop The Damage.

Chocolate Brug

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Luckily, not all of the Brugs have incurred such extensive damage. A few have lost some of the older leaves, but the new leaves have been left alone. Natural grasshopper toxins?

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La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

One hasn't been touched at all. It's one a bought from 7servant7 about 2 years ago and is supposed to be Catalonia by Mike Usina, who I believe is 7servant7. If not, please let me know.

The leaves are the thickest I have seen on a Brug. Unfortunately, the caterpillars love it. I have picked off about a dozen of the little buggers.

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Hamilton, OH

I am sorry you suffered so much damage, T.C. top cat is mike usina, he's from saint augustine Fl. 7Servant7 is from
Louisanna, if you got yours from Mike it's probably Catalonia, if you got it from 7Servant7 it could be anything

Elizabeth

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

William,
Sevin, even with a sticker, will not stay on for too long. My plants are too close together and I tend to get the leaves all wet. I did use a pesticide (The bottle is in the greenhouse) that can be safely used on fruit trees. That has slowed down the destruction, but its effect only lasts for about 2 - 3 weeks. I have to re-apply it soon as new growth is not protected. A systemic works on the few grasshoppers that do the damage, but the the damage is still done and there are so many of them..

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Elizabeth, that's why I said supposed to be. What ever the Brug is, the grasshoppers leave it alone. I wonder why? Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they leave it alone, but I'm curious as to why. What does it contain that the other Brugs don't?

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Bettydee you poor thing ...that's dreadful!
I hope you manage to save your babies ...it happens here in the summer too (I am on acres) but luckily while the damage is ugly nothing has died ...the birds get very fat though.
I feel that the new growth in brugs does seem less prone to being eaten, maybe the plant has natural concentrations of whatever the grasshoppers (and some other things) dislike in the newest leaves.
I am too far away to offer any replacements sadly ...so I just send you a cyber hug and wishing that those grasshoppers will move away quickly without any further destruction. Good luck.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Thanks for the hug, chrissy! LOL I didn't mention that I also lost 179 seedlings. I started the seeds in 3 of Park's BioDomes. A grasshopper got in through the vent in one and ate all 60 little seedlings. I lost the other 119 to the heat. I tried to protect them from the grasshopper and fried them instead. These were Earth Angel crosses I bought from Liz, Axelrose crosses and Inca Sun crosses from Sommer Gardens and a number of crosses I had bought from Volker Sanders. That loss really hurt!!!

Coushatta, LA

Bettydee,sorry to hear about the bugs eating your brugs.I have something eating on mine too.Don't know what it is but i don't think it is grasshoppers.Even with all this heat knock on wood i still have all 30.I have not lost one yet.My thing is that my leaves turn yellow and with the bugs eating the leaves.But i think tomorrow i may put alittle dust on mine.Here is a picture of most of them.

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Prairieville, LA(Zone 9a)

Gee,just what you needed....a plague of grasshoppers on top of (or because of) the drought.

I am so sorry about your seedlings...not just the monetary loss, but the anticipation as each one comes into bloom.......pox on grasshoppers.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

They are worse during a drought. In wet years, there is a fungus that kills enough of them to make them tolerable. They never disappear completely. Some of the neighbors in town keep guinea hens to help keep the grasshopper numbers down, but I understand guinea hens are dumb as a post and we have a large coyote population. They don't bother calves, but they will go after smaller mammals and birds. Some are bold enough to come out during the day. We've had them come up to the house at night, but our Australian Shepherd chases them away. A smaller dog wouldn't last long out here. Our cats have to be indoor cats for the same reason.

Prairieville, LA(Zone 9a)

Did you look into using the pyrethrins to help get rid of the grasshoppers?

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Not yet. I plan to attend a class in the same building where the Extension office located on Friday. I was going to stop by and ask. Make sure he is earning his pay. LOL.

Vero Beach, FL

I posted on the wrong thread. I'm so sorry for your loss bettydee. one thing i don't understand is......i'f brugs are poison to cats ,dogs and even people why arn't they poison to all the bugs that eat them.

(Zone 6a)

Bettydee, I'm so sorry to hear about your Brugs! It's terrible! Theres a product called semaspore thats apparently works amazingly well on grasshoppers. Heres the link if you're interested http://www.planetnatural.com/site/semaspore-grasshopper-bait.html
And heres a thread that was started earlier this year that might have some useful information in it http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/947878/ .

Hope this helps,
Steven

Livermore, CA(Zone 9a)

My gosh Betty, I have never seen such bad damage done by a insect. I guess I should quit complaining about all the damage my catapillers, baby snails and slugs are doing.
My heart goes out to you. If you need any new cuttings this Fall, please let me know.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Steven,
In years past, I've used the Nosema locustae, the protozoan in both Semaspore and Nolo. It takes about 6 weeks for it to work, and must be used during the nymph stage. The effective kill rate goes down in inverse proportion to the size. The first wave of grasshoppers arrive as adults. Even if I succeeded in killing all the grasshoppers in my yard right now. The millions of grasshoppers in the surrounding pastures would move in to fill the void. All the recommendation given to us by our county agent are impractical, very costly and must be under taken by a large number of neighbors. Many of my neighbors are week-end ranchers who don't see the need. Grasshoppers are very difficult to control because they are good fliers and there are so many of them, so many species.

Patricia, thank you for the cutting offer. I'll have a better idea after the first frost. Awwww. that is a long time from now!

Coushatta, LA

Guess what i find a grasshopper on one of my big ones.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Kill it before it multiplies! I never thought I would hate an insect this much.

(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Oh Betty... I just want to cry for you.. I would be glad to send you one of each of my new seedlings and a cutting from everyone of my named brugs this year when you are ready...

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Thank you for you offer Debra. I needed to vent my frustration. I bought a huge rectangle of row cover, but before I use it on all my Brugs I will have to try it on one or two. I want to make sure they don't overheat under it. Otherwise, I'm trading one problem for another.

I told my DH I needed to enclose my entire yard under a screen dome — one the grasshoppers can't chew through. He turned a funny color and his eyes bugged out. He said I'd have to wait until my next husband bought one for me. LOL. Oh well, I'll see what else I can do.

Jean, I asked our county agent about using pyrethrins. He hedged by saying I needed to follow the labels because non-active ingredients also affect the outcome. His recommendation was to use Sevin because there are no pasture restrictions following it's use.

(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

Betty.. your hubby must be my hubbys' brother .. LOL When I "catch a grass hopper" I immediately take it to my local grasshopper eating fellow.. she was pretty little before I started feeding her.. this was July 18th, you should see her now! When she sees me coming, she comes down and waits for me to put her dinner on her webb... the big ugly brown garden spiders I have do not compare to her when it comes to eating anything.. too bad most of us are afraid of these amazing bug eaters.. I pull the back legs off and set them in the web and the more they struggle the worst it gets.. it took her all day to get this big katydid calmed down and wrapped up..

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(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

Wow!

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9a)

Debra

That Is a Good Idea, Let
Them Critters See How
It Feels To Be Eaten.

Chocolate Brug

Prairieville, LA(Zone 9a)

I understand the agent's point, but it certainly doesn't ease the loss right now. hatchling g'hoppers are about the only thing I use it on, unless I have a heavy infestation of something Sevin won't handle. Truth be told, grasshoppers and white flies are about the only things I get serious about as they are the most damaging things in my garden. For anything else I either use a little Safer's or let nature take its' course by encouraging predators.

Maybe you need to go out and get "stomping" mad....it won't change the situation, but it'll sure make you feel better. GRIN. I told my DH what your DH said about a "bio-dome". Jim's reply...."Good answer"......"Don't get any ideas"....

Hubbys....Can't live with them, can't use 'em for compost....grin

Jean

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Quoting:
Hubbys...Can't live with them, can't use 'em for compost....
LOL with you Jean. Well wishes sending your way Veronica. How I hope and pray those critters will be in check. I try to raise some butterfly garden here, so I'm very timid about using chemical. Birds are so abundant on my backyard this year, birds are known to keep your insects in check in a natural environment.

Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

Well vernica.. how goes the horror movie..after the hero sprays the Seven on the munching hords.. little did she know at the time.. sheit was at ground zero of the take over ofthe world by the grasshopper invaders.. and only her quick action saved us all..
real interesting to hear the excessive rain caused a diminishing of the fungus that keeps th grasshopprs somewhat in check most years.. I was asked this week if I had noticd my Brugs. effected by the solanaceie virus.. akin to the potato famine virus..which racked Ireland .... this solanaceae virus is suposedly running rampant now.. with the increased rain here abouts.. does anyone know is there ocourance of this virus in our Brug world.. usually/ocasionally seen ..
I can't remember ever hearing of it or any other viral problem.. although there are cases of mysterious die back.

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

No viral problem here, Gordon. Occassional die back from too little care. But no new problem noticed here. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

Thanks Kim.. I guess we wouldn't know it if it occoured... or if we've had it before...without a toxicology ...a post mortoum investigation..
I know the look of SB on the Brugs.. but any of these others I've no Idea what it would look like.. if I saw it here..
Veronica... I forgot to mention..you can have more from me if you like.. I imagine nothing can replace your special...specially aquired..sentimental favorite brugs we have .. ones we've pulled back from hartship and death.. thelight is.. there are more amazing ones all of the time..

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Gordon, what's the name of the 'new' virus? Maybe it won't like the Texas heat. I have another concern now. I've noticed the nude branches are turning a strange shade of yellow, as in this photo. I wonder if this is sun scorch and whether it spells death. If it does, I'm going to lose more than I thought. I just may take you up on your offer once the weather cools off and I see what I have left.

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Bowie, MD(Zone 7a)

Bettydee,
I'm so sorry to see you've lost so many of your brugs. I can send you some cuttings this fall and also some seedlings.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Debbie, thank you for your generous offer. I'm hoping the damage isn't as bad as it appears.

Prairieville, LA(Zone 9a)

Veronica, how about an update? Have you managed to save any of your damaged seedlings? How about the larger ones the grasshoppers striped?

I give a thought your way every time I send a lubber off to grasshopper limbo....grin

Jean

(Debra) Derby, KS(Zone 6a)

I have been wondering also..

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