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angele Jun 29, 2009

a beefly or a sawfly maybe?
Thanks for looking 2 photos

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angele Jun 29, 2009

from the side

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claypa West Pottsgrove, PA(Zone 6b) Jun 29, 2009

I think you were on the right track with beeflies - it looks a lot like these in the genus Poecilanthrax:

http://bugguide.net/node/view/50416/bgpage

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claypa West Pottsgrove, PA(Zone 6b) Jun 29, 2009

Here's some discussions on bugguide about two Poecilanthrax species in that area, P. effrenus and P. eremicus

http://bugguide.net/node/view/205593

http://bugguide.net/node/view/169847#340123

Luckily, those wings are distinctive!

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angele Jun 29, 2009

Thank you so much Claypa. One of the experts commented that they are the only 2 that have this wing pattern with the main difference being (commenting on another photo)

"I agree with P. effrenus, but there's a small chance it could be P. eremicus. I think the key character is that effrenus has some dark hairs on the lateral abdominal margins. Vail is about 1000 m in elevation. This would point to effrenus, as eremicus is more of a low, Sonora Desert species."

Mine seems hairy to me and it was seen in my yard which is close to 5,000' in elevation
so I am concluding effrenus. Agree? - always a chance I am reading that paragraph wrong ^_^

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claypa West Pottsgrove, PA(Zone 6b) Jun 30, 2009

Sounds right to me!

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