How may specials are there. I have impassibility 3
I know the name of one it is Selenicereus chrysocardium it has thin soft zigs.
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Ric rac, fish bone, zig zag let's see your picture.
The second is one that plantladylin gave me. Selenicereus anthonyanus(thanks for let me know the name. I am having enought trouble finding the key on this thing today) And it is a strange one the zigs and zags on the different Stem/leave are some what different
Here is it's picture this is two stem/leaves that are on the same plant
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This is my new one. It looks somewhat like some of the second ones but is a older leave and it still holds the zig zag. And the second one seems to round off with age.
I also have a couple of epi's that could have had one of these ric rac in it's ancestry
Let's see what ones y'all have
Sandy the epi nut.
This is another leave/stem on the second plant It looks like I have 3 different plants in the same pot. LOL
Wren, Is your first picture the sams as this one, commonly known as Fern Leaf Cactus? : http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/105694/ http://zipcodezoo.com/Plants/E/Epiphyllum_chrysocardium/
Are the leaves on that hard and firm like other Selenicereus and my E. hookeri or are they softer like Epiphyllum Oxypetalum? My eyes aren't so good so I can't tell from pictures.
The second photo of the one you got from me, should be Selenicereus anthonyanus: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/62665/
This is the one I sent you cuttings from, my large Ric Rac, which seems to have different sizes and zig zags to the leaves, maybe because of age or culture conditions? I'm not always the best plant mom, LOL.
This is another basket I have, which I think came from cuttings from my large plant above, but it has some different growth habit. One stem has two leaves that are pretty wide and flat while other leaves on the same exact stem are skinny like my large plant ... very weird, but that's why I say it probably has to do with culture conditions, although I do remember getting a ric rac leaf in trade a couple of years ago so this could very well be from that cutting! I am known to always stick bits and pieces of plants into the closest pot at hand so I could have stuck that one cutting in with others. If it ever blooms I will know for sure which it is.
Thanks for the up date. I have added the names. those darn sinus pills are doing a number on my brain.
I am really getting curious about these plants. I am going out later after it stops raining (just what we need more rain) and see how may plants I have of the ones you sent in that pot. I may separate them and see how they grow. I may also sent a e-mail to Jim Hunter of Got Epis and ask him, just need to wait until my brain stops dancing around in side my head. Darn pills. LOL
Sandy
LOL, Sandy ... we have had waaaay too much rain! It's clouding up here again. I guess since it's June we are in for the usual summer afternoon storms!
Let me know what you hear from Jim Hunter. Maybe you could forward the pictures to him, or is he a member here on DG that he could come take a look at this thread?
Hope your head gets better ... allergy season is almost year round anymore, isn't it!
Thanks I am taking the allergy pills because of a allergy rash on my head. I itch. But my sinus allergies are bad to. Driving me crazier!!!!!.. LOL
I check the one I get from you has 4 different leave shapes on the same plant. Strange
Sandy
My Zig-zag had a bad case of scale. I think I finally got it with Organicide. It took a whole year. I brought it back to the pack and it loves the rain, as the dancing bones, christmas cactus, epi's. and I take Claritin-D every day. Just about. I didn't need it when I went up to Vermont but as soon as I left the Georgia border on my way home I felt the eyes start to itch and the brain start to swell.
Love the Zig-Zag.
when it's shiny and healthy.
It has been bad for allergies down here this year.
Sandy
I've got these two, I just love their forms. These do put out flowers too eventually? I can't wait!
I have had the "Anthonyanys" for years.
Will post pictures and observations when I have more time.
Gita
yes they do, i think they are night bloomer.
sandy
Thanks Sandy. Gita, I'm looking forward to your pictures. Thanks in advance.
Lily: The Ric Rac's are night bloomers and apparently have beautiful, fragrant blooms: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/62665/ I only found this out after finding buds on mine and the next day they were all mushy and I thought something was eating them! ^_^ I posted a photo here on DG and was informed I had missed the blooming the night before! ... I'm still waiting for buds to appear again, so far this year ... nothing!
I have a 0 year also. Too cold this winter then to hot in the shade house, then the attack of the snails and army worms. GRRRR!!!!!!
Even my Christmas Cactus are not happy. Our large oak tree died and now there is to much sun in there summering place.
Wait till next year!!!!!!!
Sandy
Army Worms!#@&*^% I just googled for pictures and that's exactly what was eating my tomatoes and I've found a couple on plants in the screen room! I threw a couple in the swimming pool and they oozed some vivid green stuff into the water! Yuck! I haven't seen any in the past week or so but I'm still checking my hanging tomato plants every day.
I put the ones I found in the feeder that I used for meal worms and the birds enjoyed them.
I have lost a number of plants this year.
Going to make some changes in the shade house before next year.
Sandy
plantlady---
I know i promised to post some pictures of my Ric-Rac, but i have not yet had to much free time to do so.
I DO want to say, that the Ric-Rac is NOT entirely a night-bloomer, like a Night-Blooming Cereus.
They DO open in the evening--and the blooms ARE short-lived, but there is at least one day that you can enjoy them. Then they fold up and die back.
Here is a picture of my Ric-rac "Anthonyanus" blooming. Buds first......
Here is a bloom in full daylight. So beautiful! No scent that I can report.....
Gita
I also want to mention that these dry, air-roots and skinny stems seem to be a result of low light and humidity--such as when i bring the plant inside for the Winter. The funny thing is--that you can take cuttings from the stems in this state--and they will grow normal green leaves after they root.
As soon as mine is outdoors for the Summer--the "normal" growth resumes. You will see one of these skinny stems--and at the tip of it will be a normal Ric-Rac leaf.
Callouses and brown spots and a dry look, in general, seems to be a normal part of this plant.
I have read that you should feed it and water it the dsame as any other plants while outside.
I also want to say, that my Ric-Rac was several years old and quite crowded and large, before it ever bloomed.
This picture was taken inside in 2005 when i first got my Ric-Rac. I was also befuddled as to what all these roots meant. Nothing! It is just part of the plant being in an indoor environment. Ugly? YES!
Cuttings from any part--and any size root easily. So do whole sections of the plant--should one break off. Great plant for sharing.....
Gita
This is my Ric-Rac in June of 2007.
This eventually got so big that i donated it to out local Conservatory. They re-potted it and it lives happily in the Mediterranean House high up on a cliff above a large pond. I haven't been there to see it blooming.....I hope it did!
I alrerady had a second large HB under way of it's progeny.
Here is it's farewell photo.....
Gita: That is a Gorgeous Ric Rac! Oh how I'd love to see buds all over mine and those beautiful blooms! I've read that the Ric Rac blooms are fragrant, and was hoping for that added bonus if mine ever graced me with blooms again! Maybe if I would feed it, I'd see a flower or two ... and even if they aren't fragrant, they sure are pretty!
My plant stays outside year round and has those ugly roots coming out all over too, so I don't think it's caused by being inside the house. I think they are just aerial roots reaching out and trying to find something to attach and cling to, wanting to take root and spread.
I bet the plant you donated to the conservatory is wonderful and I know they appreciate it. I hope you get to go there sometime and can take a picture to share with us! I've told my husband that if something were to happen to me, if I die before him, I want all of my plants donated to the botanical gardens. He doesn't know a thing about plants and wouldn't have the time to take care of them!
Gita, I forgot to ask, is your Ric Rac blooming right now? I can't remember what time of year mine bloomed last year ... I was thinking it was sometime in September but no signs of a bud anywhere on mine.
Plantladylin,
Yours looks just like mine! Except mine is fuller in all directions. Fronds growing every which way.
The one I have now is a full-sized progeny of the one I gave away. It started out by mama being blown off the plant stand in a storm, and half of it broke off. I just stuck the whole half in a fresh pot--it rooted and that's that.
It is getting quite large now. Maybe next Summer I might see it bloom. It has not done so this year.
And--NO! The blooms are not fragrant on this one. Maybe other varieties????
Maybe people might be confusing the Ric-Rac with the Night Blooming Cereus??? They all belong to the orchid Cactus family.
I am not sure that fertilizing and watering is what helps them bloom. I think it is more a matter of being a certain age and being root-bound and having a "dormant" period where you do not water a lot. They get that in my house in the Winter. i tend to ignore them. Many plants, in general, perform the best when root-bound. The Peace Lily is a good example.
As for those "ugly roots"--I never see them produced while the plant is outside. Only during the winter inside. I would go out and take a picture--but it has been pouring rain all night and day here. There are areas that have gotten over 5"! We are "swimming" in water by now.....
This morning, when i woke up at 7:30-- I had NO power in the house! I went to the bathroom--and then went back to bed and slept until 9:30AM. Still no power. Dark and dreary and no light to see anything by! My neighbor called--and said the power was already out at 3AM! WOW!
SO! I went shopping around 11:30AM....spent some money on bargains......what else can a girl do? The power was still out when I left......Got back about 4PM, and everything was on. WHEW!
I also have a Red Epi which outdid itself this Summer in blooming! it was just amazing!
AND--I DO have a white, Night-Blooming Cereus which is now quite large----but it has NEVER bloomed for me yet. Might not have the right climate? Not enough sun? I am ready to give/sell this one away.....
Most of these plants I have mentioned came from CA in trades.....several years ago.
DG seems to be the bane of my life---BUT, I cannot imagine life without it by now.
Gita
This is my Red Epi last Summer.....Hanging from thr roof's edge of my patio--semi sun.
Here is one of the pics of the blooms this Summer. Behind it is the HB of Ric Rac I now have.
I had hoped I had another picture....Hmmmm....
Here's another shot of the cluster of Epi blooms....and, again, you can see the Ric-Rac behind it.
They both hang from my laundry pole in the back yard.
Wowsers! That red blooming Epi is gorgeous! I love those vivid red blooms!
Is your Night Blooming Cereus the Epiphyllum oxypetalum: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/2443/
or Hylocereus undatus (also commonly called "Dragon Fruit"): http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/54131/
or Selenicereus grandiflorus : http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/62764/
I bet there are a few others with the common name "Queen of the Night" too but those are the only ones I can remember. I have Epi. oxypetalum and it doesn't bloom a lot but I think that is mainly because I don't fertilize it often. I used the beer formula fertilizer this year for the first time and I think it helped as the plant grew like gangbusters and bloomed after I used that mixture a couple of times.
Do you fertilize your red blooming Epi? It is really stunning!
I do not know horticultural names of anything.......
I went hunting for a picture of the one I have. Could not find the one i wanted to show you--but this one wil do.
Mine has these wise,thin leaves and the plant tends to produce these straight up hard stems, from which more of the leaves grow. Right now I am dealing with a 4' stem that shot up from the plant after I pinched off the growing tip of the one that was already there....
If you can tell me the variety--I will be happy. I could also go search PF--but iot is too late for that tonight.
This shot is from 2007. Since then--I have transplanted this plant in a 10" pot and I have it in filtered shade on my patio. I am sure it needs more sun.
As for bringing this plant in for the winter--that will be a big problem. It is now over 3' tall with this long shoot on it.
Tomorrow--I will go out and take a picture for you.
This is the whole plant last october.....
What do you think?????/
looks like a epi oxy to me.but there are a few others that do that.
sandy
Took some more pictures just now...
Here is the whole NBC in a 10" pot on my patio. Perhaps you can use the cinder blocks for scale.
It does not get any direct sun---might be the problem.
wren--what can you tell me about the blooming needs for this one?
BTW--that frondy thing on top of the blocks is my Climbing Onion. it finally split this summer....
Anyway--in the last picture--see that straight up stem on top of the plant?
Here's the rest of it!
edited to delete this Posting. It was a duplicate.....G.
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Have no idea what to do with this plant. I could cut all the long stems off and root them, but I already have a bunch rooting. here in Baltimore--I don't think too many people are familiar with these warmer climate plants....
Here is the top half of this Epi (??). wren--are you saying it is NOT a night blooming Cereus?
If so--I have misinformed a few people that took rooted cuttings from me.
The woman in CA (years ago) that I got the leaves from ID it as such.
OK! Back to the Ric-Rac.....
Here is my HB as of today. Nice and full. Hope it will bloom next Summer....
Wanted to show you next that normal leaves can grow out of those skinny, ugly stems that it makes indoors in the Winter.
Here are THREE leaves coming out from the tip of one such "ugly" stem.
Like I said earlier---I have cut these skinny stems up and rooted them, and they will produce a regular leafed plant.
They are some times called night blooming Cereus but that is really a true cactus and they are also some times called Queen of the night. The real name is Epiphyllum oxypetalum
They are one tough plant. They need bright indirect light. Treat like any other epis.
Sandy
Wow, Gitagal, those look so healthy! Please share pix when they send out buds!