New EA today. Is this Sulawesii????

I found an EA hoya today labeled sp. sulawesii but the images online don't look like this. These leaves are small like a dischidia.

Here's the whole plant next to brevialata. Anyone recognize it?

boojum,
I believe your new plant is Dischidia nummularia variegated.

It looks to me like D. nummularoides. It is a very common dischidia and is found in a number of countries in lightly different forms...but basically the same small leaf. I love them...when it blooms it is covered with tiny tiny tiny flowers and it reminds of the night sky with all the stars. They love to climb and then hang down...in ropes....I saw them hanging down about 10feet from the trunk of an old tree in a pub in Australia...!!!

Silly me...Christine is too right...it is Dischidia nummularia... (slaps forehead with heel of hand)....cheech!

This message was edited May 29, 2009 5:10 PM

When I first saw it I thought that it looks like a dischidia numularia I had a long time ago. I just compared it with one in PlantFiles, and it looks similar, but I'm not sure. That said, I don't know what a Sulawesii looks like so, you can ignore me if you like. So, I just googled it and now I'm totally confused. Some hits appear to be saying that H. Sulawesii is the same plant as H. brevialata and also H. incurvula (help!). If that is the case, there's no way this plant is Sulawesii, because its leaves are far smaller than any of them. Anybody else?

Christine

Edited to say, ha! I was right, while I was googling away you had it all figured out.

Nighty night.

C.

This message was edited May 29, 2009 11:11 PM

Well at least I got that it was a dischidia!! Thanks for the help, guys!

After that interview in Stemma I had hoped EA would straighten up and fly right.

I read that interview, thinking, finally....a chance to put them on the hot seat for wrong names. It wasn't mentioned...what a missed opportunity!!

Ya'll know, .... people mess with the tags once
they get in stores.

If it weren't dark I would go out and take a shot of
the EA 'ssp. sulawesi'. It looks to me to be a very
twiny type of lacunosa.

Maybe I will post it tomorrow with its peduncles if
anyone wants to see it. It does not appear as the
regular green lacunosa.

Great find boojum! I'm really taking a liking to Dischidia's. I agree that your plant is D. nummalaria: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57405/ Confusing with the common name of "Button Orchid" though! The leaves are button shaped but the blooms don't look like any orchid I've ever seen.

Did you find that one at a big box store? I have one Dischidia that I found a few months ago at Home Depot. Mine is D. ruschifolia and I'm liking it so much, I'd like to find a couple of other dischidia's to try!

EA putting the correct labels on the correct plants? Geesh, what a concept! It seems that 9 out of 10 of their plants are always mislabeled and I doubt it's that EA doesn't care, I think it's probably the employees who label the plants don't have a clue. I remember being at a local Home Depot a couple of years ago and finding all kinds of EA plants with incorrect labels. I commented to the cashier when I was checking out and she said oh, there's a lady right back there from the distributor. She called the lady over and I told her about all the labels being in the wrong plants ... she asked me to walk over and show her which ones, she really seemed stunned when she saw that every single plant just unloaded from the truck was mislabeled. She went around pulling the labels off the plants and said the guys working in the greenhouse didn't speak much english and couldn't read english and that was no excuse. I made the comment that I know people walk around the garden center and pick a label from a plant, read about it and sometimes don't put it back in the right pot. She laughed and said she knows that happens too, but she said she knew this was definitely a greenhouse employee problem! Maybe someday they will get better about it.

The past couple of years I have found a few different EA Hoya's with the label of H. sulawesii, sometimes I think they just make up bunches of labels and just randomly stick them on plants ... doesn't matter which one, LOL. The very first Hoya I bought after joining DG was from Home Depot, an EA plant labeled sulawesii and it was ID'd on this forum as H. brevialata. Sulawesii is an Island in Indonesia so maybe that's where the name is coming from? I think I remember reading somewhere that some hoya's come from Indonesia? But, with my brain .. maybe not! ^_^

Thanks Lin. Yup. Got it at HD. I got the EA variegated lacunosa there about 3 years ago and ever since, I look for any EAs. Even if the names are wrong, I always know if it's not one I have and they are whole plants instead of a cutting. They always bloom faster than my cuttings.

I wonder why we don't get EA Hoya's at our garden centers any more, I still hope that at some point I will see them again. Used to be Wal-Mart, HD, Lowes and Target all carried bunches of the EA plants and would always have a few Hoya's, even though they were the more common variety. Now, I find absolutely no hoya's and Wal-Mart doesn't even have the small generic house plants anymore. The next time I'm down visiting my sister in South Florida I'm going to check their HD and a few other places to see what I find.

I was at Lowe's last night and this discussion prompted me to check out the plant section. I saw a bilobata and another whose name started with "R" that I can't remember. I checked out the bilobata online and from the pictures I found online, this plant appears to be labeled correctly. Anyone have experience with this plant? Am wondering if it would be a good addition to my collection, particularly since they were such nice, healthy and full plants.

Sarah

Here's a photo of D. numularia growing on a tree in Cooktown, Australia.

Very cool!!! Thanks Carol!

Here is one of my favorite Dischidias: D. numularia var. gaudichaundri. It grow like the Chia on a Chia Pet...now in bloom

Carol, can I blame you if I get hooked on Dischidia? ^_^ You posted that link on another thread and wow, there are some really nice looking Dischidia's out there!

I love the looks of that little button like foliage on nummularia ... and those cute little blooms! The only Dischidia I have is D. ruscifolia "Million Hearts", an EA plant I bought a few months ago at one of the big box stores. I haven't had blooms yet but I'm loving the foliage and real happy with the way it's doing! I have it hanging on the pool deck and was worried that maybe it was in too much sun. I've been keeping a close watch to make sure the foliage doesn't get bleached out and so far it seems extremely happy. Some of the foliage has a hint of red tinge to it but no real bleaching. If it does start looking bleached and ratty I will move it to a shadier spot ... somewhere, LOL.

Wrong picture, I meant to show a close up of the foliage ...

Sarah-

I like bilobata! When grow in bright light the leaves develop dark edges and are really pretty! Mine hasn't bloomed yet, but I've heard once they get going that they tend to bloom fairly continuously!

I think you should get it!

Kelly

Well ... the reddish tinge didn't show up in that picture either! I am heading out to mow the lawn and will try to get a closer photo later today.

Thanks again for sharing that link. I saw a couple on there I think I'm going to order cuttings of! There was one, I think called D. obovata that had really gorgeous foliage!

Gorgeous plant, Lin...D. ruscifolia has such beautiful growth. I think you mean D. ovata! Yes...it has beautiful 'stripes'. There are many clones of it...differently shaped leaves and they all have different 'stripes' and look really cool together in the same pot.

Carol

Yes Carol, I just went back and looked at Antone's site ... it is D. ovata and it is absolutely Gorgeous! http://www.dischidia.com/dischidia_ovata.htm

"It" is often called The Watermelon Dischidia...altho many of the clones don't have the stripes of the watermelon.....

The first picture in the second row doesn't have as many stripes, and the foliage is still really beautiful.

Oo! Nice one. My little ruscifolia bloomed this year but I almost missed it. I thought it had mealy bugs but when I looked closer, it was a flower. Could you have missed them?

I don't think so. I have only had the plant @ 4 months and I've been looking for the teeny blooms.

Here is a clone I just got, the leaves are actually quite succulent.

Kelly...here is a big D. hirsuta...

At each corner of the lanai overhang, I asked DH to put some tree trunks so I could grow dischidia on them and one day they would be covered. Well, on this one I also have H. tsangii and H. loherii which I grow mounted like the dischidia and they LOVE it...

Carol, I love that clone ... gorgeous veining and color to that foliage! That's a great idea with the tree trunks, it looks really nice with the dischidia and hoyas attached and happily growing ... I bet it's going to look really awesome when they are all filled in. I love that ... a natural lanai trellis, instead of aluminum, or pvc, or iron. I love wrought iron but prefer the organic, natural look!

If you want to try it, Lin...it should work really well in your pool room! Instead of using a tree trunk you could build a tree with pvc pipe and cover the pvc with chicken wire stuffed with spagnum moss to soften the edges and maintain the humidity...give them something to cling to. That's what they do in the big botanical gardens.

Nice score, boojum! Wish I could find one that size around here!
I have a couple of small-ish plants of D. nummularia.

Lin, what a FABULOUS specimen of D. ruscifolia!!

I adore D. ovata...it's absolutely one of my favorite plants of all time. The flowers are prettier and more interesting than most of the (usually all white) Dischidia blooms.
I also have a small D. hirsuta...another plant I love that had done pretty well growing indoors.

And, Lin...living in hot/humid Florida...you have the perfect environment for Dischidias...they love our summers, and do pretty well indoors during the winter, considering.
(Just a little 'enabling' at work, here!)

Carol,
Thanks for posting the picture of the hirsuta! Beautiful!

If I only had the patience to build a pvc tree! I could ask my dear husband to build one for me, he will be done teaching in a couple of weeks and is off until fall term begins the end of August. He's the type that can't sit still, needs to always have something to do ... I told him I will have a list of projects to keep him busy, so we we'll see. I know he wants to get the boat in the water, it's been sitting since last year, so I bet a pvc tree would be at the bottom of his list of things to do. Years ago you could find those coir totems in a bunch of different sizes ... don't see anything like that anymore, and those would be perfect for wiring for moss and growing dischidia. hmmm ... just thought, one thing on my DH's list of things to do this summer is trim trees around the house before the threat of Hurricane's - I will have to see what kind of tree might be good for a moss pole, one that wouldn't rot quickly. One of the neighbors has a nice Cedar tree in their yard, that would be a perfect trellis, wonder if I could talk them into a large/thick branch? LOL. I think I might check the shed ... a few years ago my husband bought some tall cedar posts to mount my birdhouses on in the yard ... there might just be an extra one out there! Gee Carol ... what have you got me into?

Nan, Nan, Nan! Hey gal, how are you? How's that handsome little grandbaby of yours doing? I bet he's not so little anymore is he? My very first trade here on DG was with you and you sent me a pretty little Hoya! The only hoya I even knew about and had was the carnosa given to me by some dear friends many years ago. Then you included one in our trade and I began lurking on this forum and making a wish list! So, ... when my husband says "How many Hoya's do you have now anyway?" and if I begin acquiring dischidia now, can I blame it all on you? ^_^

LOL!! Yep, go for it....I've been blamed for worse than that! (Ü)

somehow I don't think he'd let me put the blame on others, I can hear him laughing at that. After 40 years of marriage he knows me so well. He doesn't pay too much attention to all the plants but when the pool area was cleared out last year with the refurbishing of the pool and deck, he commented about it looking so bare out there. Then plants and furniture were shoved here and there during the cold weather we had over the winter. After I cleaned and put all the plants and furniture back in place, he commented on how nice it looked out there and said "Gee, you sure do have a green thumb." I replied "Oh, you are just noticing that?" I laugh and say, no I have brown thumbs and fingers from all the embedded dirt!