I recently purchased Hagley Hybrid in a one gallon pot, full of roots for $14.95. Not bad, right? The nursery also had Niobe, which I'm thinking of buying to grow with HH. For those of you who have HH, how much sun does your HH receive, and how badly does it fade?
Hagley Hybrid & Niobe
hh fades badly, need partial shade. niobe needs sun for best bloom performance. hh is an ordinary bleached clem in sun, but is magical in partial shade.
sounds like a good price for the clems.
niobe is a must. hh is a must. both great clems, but i would not plant together if you want hh to look as good as it can.
Oh well, I do have an alternate spot for it. thanks.
That is too bad because I think the colours of those two would look great together!
try countess bouchaud with niobe. i do not have that in a combo (yet), but have thought of it. they would look smashing , similar to the other idea.
Oh yes Guru I would agree!!!!
I was thinking about substituting with CdB too.
Do you have a Comtesse de Bouchard right now? I have 2 of them and they do really really well for me. I love that one...she is one of my fav's!!
Yes, I have CdB that is still young. One of my first clematis was CdB. Before I knew that clematis can sleep for a season or more, I dug it up and tossed it when it didn't come up one year. It didn't dawn on me that the roots were still viable until it was too late.
CdB is very beautiful.
Luckily I have never had that happen to me. I would hate that! Does that only happen when they are young or can that happen to older clematises as well? Just curious.
I think it can happen with older clematis too. CdB had a root system about 10-12 inches wide when it took the nap. I read of someone who had an Omishiro that slept for 3 years.
Hmm interesting - but I have decided I don't like that "sleeping" business they do then LOL.
I don't like it much either, however....
I saw something interesting about sleeping clematis. A clematis grower/hybridizer from New Zealand dug up one of his sleeping clematis and removed all the soil from the roots. He found that the center of the root mass was rotted out. He had taken photos of the rotted roots - they were clearly rotted and useless, but there was also a lot of new root development around the outside of the root mass.
His theory, which sounds good to me, is the center rotted out, so the plants energy all went to developing new roots.
Well it is all very interesting for sure. They sure are amazing plants.
that is interesting. have not heard of that. or they could have had mole damage and be recovering. i will say that most clems i have had disappear and come back are never truly vigorous. i have three not up from last year.
just decided, i am going to dig, examine and pot instead of putting back in the hole. i need the holes for some other clems and this way can keep and eye on the progress of these, if any.
When I was typing my last post, I couldn't remember the outcome. If I remember correctly, the center of the crown was also rotten so he divided the clematis. I do not know the outcome of the divisions.
Something to consider if you feel like experimenting.
Knowing myself I woudn't bother experimenting....I would probably trash the root ball and buy a new clematis! LOL
today i dug out 4 clems who had been put in last fall, and not sprouted this year, after that last post. in 3 holes i found what seems to be medium small roots, (there were all chalk hill form last fall) very deep. so deep i guess they were not going to come up. they seemed to be in good shape, i replanted them in large pots as mentioned above. the fourth one, ken donsen, also chalk hill, there was no root to be found, and i must have been down 12 inches. soil was easy to dig, so it wasn't too bad.
i actually have two others i am going to do this too and then everyone is accounted for. we will see if the ones i potted will come up or if something else is wrong with the clem roots.
Twelve inches is really deep. Maybe I should look harder for my missing clem.
i was shocked it was so low. all i can think is the combo of pruning it off or it dying back immediately with the fall planting and somehow the watering and top dressing just pushed it down as it was not rooted, posssibly the weight of the snow for the same reasons. so i have 3 clems in big pots where i can keep an eye on them.
also wanted to mention that hagley hybrid would look good with ville de lyon, which is a pinkish red and can take some shade. esp if you planted hagley toward the shadier side of the site. would be better than niobe and you would still get much the same effect.
i treat my oldest ville differently than the type 3 pruning requirement call for. i hard prune every other year after blooming, just clean it up in the spring. it is a huge plant and this has helped keep it in bounds and also give me early blooms...it started blooming yesterday.
Well hey Guru if it started blooming yesterday - where are the pics? LOL!!!!
Well I dug up where that Pink Champagne was planted and there was nothing there....not sure if I mentioned that? I know yesterday I planted Blue Angel right beside the spot I had planted Pink champagne so I decided to dig with my shovel and found nothing!
ok dawn, , here is ville de lyon yesterday...it will bloom till july. too bad about your pink ch root. this does happen.
