Philodendron advice

Atawhai,Nelson, New Zealand(Zone 10a)

Anyone out there an expert with Philodendron? I have just planted one outside in a shady spot with only morning sun. Any tips and advice appreciated.


Mike

Chicago, IL(Zone 5b)

HI Mike,

I have a number outside in the shade and they do very well. Just give them room for I have found, once in the ground, they take off.

BTW, I'm no expert at all.

Hap

Keaau, HI

Can you show the plant; what species do you have?

Miami, FL(Zone 10a)

With the number of Philodendron species out there and available, I can provide suggestions only if I know more specifically what kind you have.

LariAnn
Aroidia Research
Hybridizers of Philodendron, Alocasia and Anthurium

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Hi LariAnn-

Is there any general advice that would apply to many Philodendrons- like a check list to go through if a plant appears to be languishing.?
Light
Water
Soil (drainage)
Nutrient

Hi Mike,
I have Philo monstera & variegated in the ground- Prince of Orange (although having moved it around to a dozen locations remains, and never seems happy) -and 2 other Philos I'm not sure the name of- Under a small Pear tree. During the summer they get morning and late afternoon sun, but borders right along the sunline in the back garden, so there is very bright afternoon light, plus the reflective gravel. The bed is a planned wet zone, humus rich which retains moisture longer although well drained. Winter time the plants receive more sunlight because of the absence of tree leaves, but still receives shade from adjacent deck and garage structures.

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

On the otherside of the trunk is the variegated one.. they both seem happy

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

The bed is an Island, this path on the right, then a large deck.

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

and this is the other side- opposite direction

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Keaau, HI

Hey Randy, isn't that Monstera deliciosa?

The plain green one is Monstera deliciosa 'Borsigiana'.

The variegated one is Monstera deliciosa 'Marmorata'.

Monstera deliciosa can handle drier weather than most Philodendrons.

By knowing which Philodendron species Mike has, it can be determined what type of natural environment it is from, and what cultivation practices it may enjoy!

Aloha, Dave

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Thanks Dave,

Are you referring to dry as in Arid enviornment?
Most of the Philodendrons I've seen seen (caldwells nursery private collection) to like the humid, but dry soil..they're kind of epyphitic aren't they.

Thanks for the names..I have a couple of others to photograph

Keaau, HI

Yes, mostly epiphytes; to be in soil it should be acidic with high organic matter. For general care they need an organic soil with lots of moisture and good drainage. They can handle getting misted regularly. If it's a houseplant, give it liquid fertilizer monthly.
I think the worst thing for a Philodendron is to be cold and dry!

Atawhai,Nelson, New Zealand(Zone 10a)

I'm pretty sure it's a selloum. We are heading into winter here so do you think it's an ok time to plant?


Mike

Inland S.E QLD , Australia

Mike,If you are on the North Island,I don't see that you will have a problem.I have lots of selloum here in my garden and we do regularly get 30odd frosts each winter including a few black frosts,all have survived with little if any damage.(I am 2 hours inland from Brisbane with little humidity).The northern or eastern side are usually the best but having said that I have them in all areas of my yard and all are doing well.
Edited to say: If you have lots of winter rainfall just make sure that your drainage is really good by building up the garden beds with good friable soil...cold wet conditions are what kill many sub/tropical plants.

This message was edited May 12, 2009 5:51 PM

Atawhai,Nelson, New Zealand(Zone 10a)

I'm actually at the very top of the South Island which is fairly similar to the North Island anyway. So I think I will ensure there is plenty or organic material for it and keep an eye on the drainage.


Mike

Keaau, HI

Give the plant lots of mulch; it will help keep the plant on the acidic side and give a little protection to the soil from cold.
Philodendron bipinnatifidum, syn. P. selloum, Tree Philodendron, grows in Hawai'i at over 3,000 ft. and handles mild frosts.

Clemmons, NC(Zone 7b)

The past two winters philodendron selloum has overwintered outside here in zone 7b with a thick layer, 4 inches or more of mulch. It's planted in a shady, wet area, the soil was pretty rich but it's on a bit of a slope. We often get temps in the teens and single digits during our winters, but it's up before most of my colocasias and other hardy tropicals. Seemed to adapt well here, so I'm sure it will do well for you in zone 10a. good luck

Atawhai,Nelson, New Zealand(Zone 10a)

Thanks for all the advice.



Mike

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Dave,
some of the others I have are
Von Martius' Philodendron, Flask Philodendron, Philodendron martianum

a struggling Philodendron squamiferum

one that resembles Skeleton Aroid, Philodendron elegans but not sure will take photo,

and the last one..also need to take photos, as i find nothing resembling it

Keaau, HI

Yes, please show pictures!

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

this is what I think is Philodendron squamiferum

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Keaau, HI

Hi Randy, the plant matches Philodendron x 'Florida Compacta', in A. Graf, "Tropica".

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

okay...what's it's preference? it struggles, it's in the same philo area as the others described above

Keaau, HI

You were close Randy! Philodendron x 'Florida Compacta' is a hybrid between P. quercifolium and P. squamiferum.
It is a non-vining hybrid that needs humus rich well drained soil and Tropical weather. It may not do well with cold weather. When it is dry & hot outside, it is good to spray the leaves down with water.

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Okay,...it's non vining? that's explains a lot...thanks..
I I may remove it from the bed. I'll try to get photo's of the other two..

I have another variegated monstera from Carol, although it's a completely different look that the marbley one in this thread. I'm sending Carol a box of stuff, want anything?

Keaau, HI

The other variegated Monstera may be, Monstera deliciosa 'Albo-Variegata'.

Is has large sections of the leaf colored creamy white.

What kind of stuff are you sending.

Miami, FL(Zone 10a)

i have all of my philos in pots hanging under the mango tree where they sprinkler reaches them. they seem to do well with some osmocote.

this one was labeled 'lali schumburkii" not sure if it is in the wrong pot though. beautiful flowers

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Miami, FL(Zone 10a)

this might be 'cruetum' it is had to read the labels anymore

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Miami, FL(Zone 10a)

no id

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Keaau, HI

Hi Candela, I need to see the whole plant in the first photo.

The second plant does look like Philodendron cruentum, the Red Leaf Philodendron.

The third plant looks like Philodendron pinnatifidum.

Atawhai,Nelson, New Zealand(Zone 10a)

What sort of conditions are required to grow a Monstera? Similar to a selloum? Or more sensitive?



Mike

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

sending a varieagated rubber tree and sugarcane
(the center rubber in pict)

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Keaau, HI

Monstera deliciosa is very similar in it's requirements to Philodendron bipinnatifidum, syn. P. selloum. Their temperature tolerance is the same. Monstera can probable handle drier conditions.

What kind of Sugarcane do you have Randy? Any photos?

Miami, FL(Zone 10a)

metro
this is a picture of the whole plant.

rj i never knew there were so many varigated rubber trees. wow.

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Miami, FL(Zone 10a)

i have a monstera fruit that i would like to try but nervous about when it is ripe any suggestions?

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

variegated grass

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Winter Springs, FL

Hi. I have been watching this thread and I have a plant similar to one of the ones above. I was told mine was philodendron pedatum. Which one could it be? Mine has aerial roots and it climbs.

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Keaau, HI

Dawn's plant does looks like Philodendron pedatum, syn. P. laciniatum. A moderately branching climber.

I think Randy's variegated grass is, Arundo donax 'Versicolor', Giant Reed.

Candela's plant I'm not sure about yet; many Philodendron are similar.

Monstera deliciosa fruit is ripe when the green plates on the outside of the fruit begin to split apart. It takes about 14 months for the fruit to mature. The plates are peeled away from the inside flesh; the fruit still has a core from which it is carved off of. It tastes similar to Pineapple & Cinnamon.

Miami, FL(Zone 10a)

Candela,

Your third plant that looks somewhat like P. bipinnatifidum is actual P. warscewiczii (a mouthful). It gets a really fat stem as it tries to grow up a tree.

LariAnn
Aroidia Research

Keaau, HI

Hi LariAnn, you've been gone for awhile; good to see you're back!

I thought that Candela's pinnately lobed plant was not lobed enough to be Philodendron warscewiczii, so I figured it might be P. pinnatifidum. I've been looking at photos of P. pinnatifidum and see that it has much less lobes than than Candela's plant.

I take it that Candela's plant is a young Philodendron warscewiczii.

Miami, FL(Zone 10a)

Yes, the younger they are, the less lobes they have. I had a really young one and the leaves were almost entire. Each succeeding leaf became gradually more lobed than the previous ones. At first I didn't even know what aroid my small one was until the stem started fattening up and I began to see the characteristic green spotting on the petioles and the ever-increasing lobing in the leaves.

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