what wrong wiith this

Ottawa, IL(Zone 9a)

Hi all;
I have been trying to figure out what is wrong with this plant? The larger leaves are as limp as a dish rag & i can't figure out why, i have recently repotted this to a larger pot as it was getting to dry & seemed to small for the pot it was in, but it was also doing the same thing before.it is not dry,& not to wet either, can any one figure this out?
mrsbonnie

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Andalusia, AL(Zone 8b)

I'll be waiting for a answer to this Bonnie.I just had the same thing happen to a plant a couple of days ago.

Williston, ND

root rot,your best bet is to take off the root ball and several leaves and start over ,

JIM

Land of OZ, CT(Zone 6a)

Jim--Bonnie said she.s sure did not overwater--what else causes root rot? I have one tanking also.

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Williston, ND

sometimes rot just sets in,if a plant is underwatered then is watered normal,rot can set in,i could be wrong on what caused it but im sure its rot,everytime mine gets that way its been rot

Land of OZ, CT(Zone 6a)

Streps are too moody for me!

Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

I have one that is doing the same thing. It's wicked on capillary matting. I thought I would try this method so I wouldn't have to water as often, but I don't like the results I'm getting. I have the strep that is tanking as well as another plant that is getting mold on the surface of the growing medium. YUCK.

I think I'm going to put the plants on a grid and hang the wicks down into the water below the grid. This way I'm hoping they won't get too much water.

I'm still new to gesneriads, so if anyone has any other suggestions or recommendations....

Thanks. Sarah

Andalusia, AL(Zone 8b)

Darn,just when I thought I had the hang of these plants.Thanks Jim.

Williston, ND

i had put all of mine on grids then had the matting draped over the sides,i was starting to lose a lot,so i switched back to just leting them sit on the mat and watering the mat every few days,they seem,to be doing better and lots are putting out new growth,

jim

Ottawa, IL(Zone 9a)

it's so hard to say whats wrong, but a few of the leaves are turid, the center does not look like rot, but i think i will try to divide this plant & see if that helps. thanks to all you guys.
bonnie

(Lynn) Omaha, NE(Zone 5a)

I am pretty new to Streps.So far all all doing well being wicked except I noticed Gwen seemed unhappy.I started hand watering her and she looks much better.Mine are in an extremely lean mix.Any AVS or Streps. I have purchased had to be repotted,because they stayed too wet.
Lynn

(Taylor) Plano, TX(Zone 8a)

Bonnie-
maybe root damage from transplant, that would have the same symptoms of rot?

Maybe thrips, or midge?...they can deform and curl leaves like that...

Ottawa, IL(Zone 9a)

i will treat the plant for such
bonnie

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

I just put some of mine in a big dome.........the leaves are just wimpy soft............I think it is from both overwatering and then under watering.............and the roots rot.......but I am not giving up on mine yet........often, you can slightly water them and put a dome on for several days to give the humidity to the leaves..........
Let me take a picture and you will feel better.............we all do it!!!! Thank goodness these are not supposed to go to anyone right now...............

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Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

I just did this 15 minutes ago...........just noticed it

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Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

Look at this.......only one leaf doing that so I put under a dome.........only want her to propagate anyway.......she has to make it!

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(Lynn) Omaha, NE(Zone 5a)

Gail,I don't want this to come out wrong LOL,but it's kind of a relief to know that even advanced growers sometimes have a plant that just doesn't look quite right.
Lynn

(Taylor) Plano, TX(Zone 8a)

Bonnie-
I think that is great advice...the more I look at your picture they just look wilted, not deformed from thrip or midge...
I'm afraid a chemical to treat a bug might at this point do more harm than good?

I think the dome is a good suggestion :-)

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

I am not that good but this one really baffles me..............I think I have too many plants and can't watch them closely enough...........

Ottawa, IL(Zone 9a)

i will try bagging it, see how it does.
bonnie

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

Bonnie, mine have now been in a big big dome for 24 hours and I can see a definite improvement.......they are not out of the woods yet.........

Ottawa, IL(Zone 9a)

mine have also been in the bag for 24 hours & i do see a little improvement also.
bonnie

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

I think I lost my spiritual corridor.............the others are looking better but not great yet............Spiritual Corridor just got wimpier with each day (LOL)

Williston, ND

i wonder if these are going into shock for some reason,

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

Let me show you one of mine that needs to go in the trash........I think I figured out my particular problem. I made my soil too lite for wicking and I noticed when I took one apart that the actual roots were not getting wet although the pot felt heavy.

Have you ever seen anything this pathetic?????????

Not many people would even put a picture out for the public like this!

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(Lynn) Omaha, NE(Zone 5a)

Gail,
As you know I am a newbie at Streps.,but not Gessies.In my HO ,it looks like root damage.My soil mix keeps them moist,but never wet,when wicked and those that are not wicked can totally dry out in one day.I realize you and Jim (and others) know much more than I do,but for what it's worth,that's my opinion.A few of the baby Streps. I have seem to react the same way if they are wicked.
Hope I am not interfering.
Lynn

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

YOu are not interfering, sweet Lynn............

I keep all my babies on capillary matting (with wicks)............they do great...........

Sometimes the adults do this...........but I have to wick........I have 7 gro light stands cram packed.........and sometimes I just don't take the time to really look at each plant every day..........

I am going to change up my wicking mix the next time I pot up both small and larger ones
........and not use so much perlite..........

The root system on that one is definitely dead and gone............she can join my Pitcherama party this weekend...............

(Lynn) Omaha, NE(Zone 5a)

LOL,Pitcherama party! Why are you going to use less perlite? Just curious.
Lynn

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

Actually, I got that word from Goldleaf and love it!!! When she pitches plants because they are now growing pretty or well, she calls it a Pitcherama party...............

I am going to use less perlite in my new mix because the soil in my streps is not staying evenly moist............the roots sometimes get dry even when they are wicking..................

I do have these parties anyway sometimes but just loved Goldleaf's description of what she calls this throw away days!!

(Lynn) Omaha, NE(Zone 5a)

GL, ^_^
I love your word too and may borrow it now and then...LOL.
Gail,What do you think might help even out the soil moistness?Maybe a little vermiculite?
Lynn

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

I am already using Volkmann's wicking mix.............don't need to add vermiculite in the humidity we live in................but the mix is just a bit heavy for streps............I know a friend who doesn't add any perlite to it for avs..........

Williston, ND

i tossed violets today too,but really have some nice ones growing,

JIM

(Lynn) Omaha, NE(Zone 5a)

OK,so are you both wicking or capillary mat wicking? The reason I am asking is some of my AVS seem to be very happy with water wicking and others seem to resent it or stay too wet.I use a soiless mix called 3B,2 perlite to 1 mix for Streps.,about equal parts mix,perlite and vermiculite for Episcias,with a little added peat (They are not domed),and for wicked AVS I basically use 2 parts mix,2 perlite and 1 vermiculite.
I am always interested in your opinions,because in the past I never wicked,but I don't really have time and energy to hand water every plant anymore.
Lynn

Williston, ND

yes i am on a grate,i let the matting drape in the water and it wicks it up,violets are happy,streps didnt care for that much

JIM

(Lynn) Omaha, NE(Zone 5a)

Because it was a little too wet? I would love to see a picture of your matting method Jim.
Lynn

Williston, ND

just a piece of blanket on a tray,or sweater box,just line the bottem and try to get the right amount of water,for the most part most of my trays take a half a gallon of water,for watering pitchers i have some old beer pitchers they are about perfect for what i need



JIM

(Lynn) Omaha, NE(Zone 5a)

Okay....I think? So you put the blanket in the bottom of the tray,pour a pitcher of beer in (whoops,water LOL),then put on a grid and let the wicks soak moisture up gradually,rather than having them hanging in the water?
Lynn

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

I tried Jim's way and it didn't work.............but he is in very cold dry climate and I am in the valley almost of Texas.....humid and hot. It was 99 on Sunday............

I will take pictures tomorrow if I can find time to show you how I wick............
If they are babies, they are wicked but kept on capillary matting with a dome.....
As they grow up, they still have their wick but they sit on grids and take up whatever water they need...........and put physan in the water ...........1/2 tsp to a gallon everytime I fill the trays.........

(Lynn) Omaha, NE(Zone 5a)

Thanks Gail!
No hurry,but Nebraska is very humid also(and hot in summer),but less so than Texas I think..We do have cold dry winters sometimes,but less so than where Jim lives.
Lynn

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